KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - April 20, 2024

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It's a beautiful, beautiful springtime that we have had here, not just in eastern Iowa, but largely throughout the Midwest, although as you guys know, always volatile, already had some storms in the area here, but looking forward to a continuation of the greening of America in the Midwest.

during this beautiful Easter season as I have been doing my windshield driving during tax season culminating April 15th, April 30th for Iowa Returns.

And yes, machines are in the fields.

Things are greening up.

It's a very good time of year to be optimistic.

And I'm very optimistic today because I have the inimitable Michael Shane engineer par excellence.

in the studio commandeering, all things technical.

He has his own inimitable identifiable ringtone, which is almost up there with Paul Anka's Tonight Show theme.

I think this thing is just rocking.

and rolling.

You know, it's funny.

I was talking to a station manager for a radio station outside of Kansas City the other day and he says, I know Mike Shane.

Everybody knows Mike Shane.

But we have three superb guests today returning.

Our crowd is on their feet.

Let me introduce this Troika of excellence.

And no, it's not the Soviet Politburo of Brezhnev, Kosigin and Podgorny.

These are great Americans.

who love their country and they love the people for whom they serve.

Dr. Edward Fogarty out of originally Omaha, Omaha Central High Hall of Famer, winner of CARES award grant from the federal government during COVID, former head of radiology at University of North Dakota and current your midnight radiologist.

from sea to shining sea.

Also, the honorable Dr. David Hart, such like me, an erstwhile legislator from the Iowa General Assembly, former state senator.

now full-time physician, and sometimes prosailitigator out of the Quad Cities with his own practice.

He and Fode have been doing some incredibly innovative things, including with hyperbarics.

And then Joseph Casserino, Joe Casserino, our friend from New York, who right now is helping people rebuild their immune systems.

He is the ambassador of Goodwill with science

to the nines on his side guys it is so great to have them rejoin us on this Saturday again here top of the morning to all of you this is the freshest show you're going to hear any weekend ever because we know that the weekends oftentimes are mutual fun shows and and bowel cleansing commercials

This is not it here.

This is your political review, your sports review, your health care review.

But let's bring up in this as we record this live and unrehearsed.

Let's bring up issue one, Mike Shane.

Let's get caught up on how these guys are doing.

I'm gonna ask each of you how you're doing and just give our folks who may not have heard you before.

Maybe this is the first or second time they're listening in and haven't heard you on the panel.

Tell us a little bit about yourself.

I'm gonna go from west to east, west.

Let's go to the west of the Missouri River to the Great Plains, Dr. Edward Fogarty, the Ogallalan doc.

How are you?

Tell us a little bit about yourself.

John, I'm doing great.

For those of our listeners who have never heard my voice, I think that might be odd, but I'm out in Nogulwala reading films in ICUs and ERs across the country all night long and writing up some scientific journal papers where I'm actually citing...

KXEL and the Jacobson group in one of my papers that's going in describing the North Dakota CARES Act grant medical countermeasures for COVID-19.

Because John, you and KXEL and all of our broadcasting friends in the Midwest, we're the ones that have really gotten the word out about the real countermeasures.

And we've done that across state lines in the midst of a war theater environment where

our own political medical apparatus has been literally letting people die without these countermeasures.

is true.

What you say is true.

What's amazing, Dr. Fogarty, and then I'll let you resume our program director, Dr. Jeff Stein at KXL.

I get these anecdotal reports from him that people are emailing him, hey, we listen to that, we want to find out more.

This is resonating, Dr. Fogarty, back to you real briefly before we reintroduce our other two gentlemen.

Well, that is great to hear, and I'm just here to speak on behalf of Mother Nature at some level.

You cannot

get any better way of healing yourself than through the agency of intracellular glutathione manufacturing.

And we can do that in two ways in a very rapid fashion.

The first is through hyperbaric therapy.

It is the fastest way to recover from all sports injuries, COVID-19,

and

I'm even recovering dementia.

I mean, there's nobody else in Iowa until I came along and started my practice in Okuboji who was ever heard of to reverse dementia.

But that's what I'm doing.

And that's kind of a sideshow for my regular...

practice.

Dr. Edward forward here folks.

He's continuing.

Dr. Fogarty just as a reminder, radiologist originally out of Omaha, winner of a federal cares grant from our federal government.

His good work in medicine.

Back to you, doc.

Hey,

John,

can I interject?

Ted, Ted, I think David Hartstich wants to come in and give you props here for a moment.

Dr. David Hartstich from Quad Cities from River to River.

Now we go the Mississippi River here.

We're a lot of our

KXEL listeners are within probably a 90 to 120 mile concentric circle.

Dr. David Hartstich, the honorable Dr. David Hartstich, how are you this morning?

Really good, John.

I wanted to give Ted Fogarty some kudos for his latest paper publication regarding his epic work with hyperbarics and gluteinion precursors, which is going to be, I don't know when it's going to be published.

Ted, do you know?

Or you probably do.

But I stayed up late last night reading the thing.

And incredible piece of work.

Everybody should read it.

And it really does a good job of documenting the importance of these glutathione precursors coupled with the hyperbaric therapy.

And anyhow, kudos to you, Ted.

Ted, that's high praise.

Dr. Hartzich, as long as we've got you on, tell us just a little bit about yourself.

I will say to my listeners and all you listening in that doctors serve the great distinction in the Iowa State Senate, but he's doing wonderful work during COVID, not just saving lives, but also protecting the legal rights of these curative.

physicians and their patients.

These are heroic doctors of conscience.

Hartsich, give a little reintroduction of yourself, sir.

Well, I'm an emergency

medicine physician.

I trained at Detroit receiving hospital.

You know, big gun and knife club.

And there's very little I haven't seen in the emergency medicine realm.

And I realized that this is kind of why I am currently taking on the board of medicine, the board of pharmacy.

In the state of Iowa, correct?

In the state of Iowa, in the state of Iowa, because what they've done is they work together in order to prevent patients from being treated with early life-saving treatment for COVID.

And the Board of Medicine used an un-predicated investigation against doctors.

So, at least 17 is what they

announced.

A large number of

doctors were investigated for spreading misinformation about COVID.

That's the one thing.

And also using off-level drugs to treat COVID.

But you guys had the best curative record.

Why would they go after the successful guys when people were dying right left in hospitals from remdesivir and ventilators?

Well, I think the word went out from the FDA.

The FDA wanted to make sure that nobody was being cured because they needed to give the emergency use authorization to the vaccine.

As long as there's treatment for the disease, they could not have the emergency use authorization.

And I believe that's a huge, you know, abuse of power on the part of the FDA because Congress never intended to manipulate the law that way.

just so that there could be an emergency use authorization.

Yeah, that was not the original congressional intent.

You're correct, doctor.

Dr. David Hartzich with us here.

Continue doc.

Yeah, so in their district court, I basically won a part of my case I won.

I should put it that way.

Yeah, you did.

You had a good partial victory.

Yeah, I think I've had a lot of

really victorious changes in this.

So we've had the mysterious departure of the Director of the Board of Medicine at Neville.

And we also had the resignation of the Director of the Board of Pharmacy, Mr. Fung.

And we've also had a lot of the investigations dropped against other physicians.

Yes.

And I think those are major victories.

Huge.

huge

uh... the the main uh... grab them in my case though deals with the restriction on free speech of doctors the ability of doctors to speak freely

yeah this is incredibly important for folks

yes uh... the the the board of medicine does not have a definition of what is this the information of covid and so when they accuse doctors of spreading this information about covid they're basically uh... inhibiting the speech

of doctors as a whole to speak about COVID at all.

The only way a doctor can prevent, you know, the iron fist of the boards coming down on them is to not speak about COVID at all.

And that's a severe chilling effect on free speech that is currently taking place.

And my lawsuit is to join or prevent the boards from continuing abridging the free speech of physicians with regard to speaking about COVID-19.

And with that, by the way, is your reciprocal right of patience to hear.

When you go to the doctor, you want your doctor speaking freely to you.

You have the right to that.

But the boards of medicine are not preventing from that from happening.

And that also goes to the use of hospital drugs to treat COVID.

These are life-saving drugs.

People have a right to receive them.

They have a right to treatment for the COVID-19.

And the boards do not have the right to keep patients from that treatment.

They could save their life.

That's well said, Dr. David Hartzition.

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John Jacobson and Mike Shane with you here during this beautiful Easter season on a Saturday.

Let's go to the eastern outpost of New York City where Caitlin Clark

took the world by storm, wearing her Prada, even her eyewear, as she was drafted number one for the Indiana Fever, and did just a BAFO performance on Saturday Night Live with the cold open, taking America by storm.

In New York, the Big Apple was the centerpiece for Caitlin's big party to...

Take this next step in what will be a glorious career for her in the WNBA.

Another great New Yorker, great for America.

A wonderful friend, Joseph Casarino.

Joe, you know what these doctors are saying is true and you're helping to get this info out to the American public.

I salute you.

You are a modern day

Paul Revere in the best sense.

Joe Castorino, welcome back to program.

Remind folks who you are, reintroduce yourself to any newbies that we might have on with us here today.

Thank you, John.

I will do that.

But before I describe a bit about myself, I'd like to just say a quick prayer to God to bless all the lives on planet Earth at a time of so many conflicts and wars.

So please, dear God, please, we pray for all the lives around the

the planet earth and bring it into these wars and initiate the peace process.

I'd like to just say that first.

Amen.

You have a hearty amen from us and we need Jesus Christ in our world.

He is the Prince of Peace and I'm so

glad.

We certainly do.

Praise God.

Yeah,

I'm so glad you opened with that, Joe.

How appropriate.

Go ahead and take it from here, Joe.

Let's get you as the third man theme here, so to speak.

Well,

thank you.

You know, listen, Dr. Fogarty, yourself, Dr. Hodge, myself, we're all men of God, you know?

So that's why I opened with that, because we love people, all people around the world, and our mission, all of our missions,

for all of us on the show today.

We're here loving people and wanting to help people improve their quality of life and optimize the health in such a terrible time full of toxicity and other trauma, you know.

So I came out of retirement at 60, 60 years old, a couple of years back.

Dr. Crumb, Dr. Albert B. Crumb tapped me to help him introduce proimmune, immune formulation 200.

which are the all-natural glutathione precursors, Dr. Fogarty and Dr. Hotzich are referring to.

The glutathione precursors that Dr. Crum discovered in many years of scientific research are the all-natural glutathione precursors that when you take this powder, you put it on your tongue.

It has almost instant bioavailability.

And at that point, every cell in the body starts to replenish the glutathione.

which is very important because then that reduces the activated stress inside the cells, which lead to most illnesses.

So I've been traveling around the country mostly, driving from state to state, meeting with pharmacies and health food stores and doctor's offices and health centers, introducing the Promeun Immune Formulation 200 to the health professionals so they could then understand that we have this all-natural formula that was researched

by $88 million to be superior to N-acetyl-15 or a regular typical glutathione molecule that you buy over the shelf that cannot penetrate the cell wall effectively as the glutathione precursors could do.

Dr. Fogarty will explain that better than I will because he's the physician that understands the science better than anyone.

But that's why I'm on the road relentlessly.

And you know, John,

I think I've said it many times on your show.

I don't do this for the money.

None of the doctors on the show take a nickel.

They don't earn any money.

No one's doing this for money.

We're doing it to help America optimize their health because of the epidemic, chronic illnesses that everyone has, including not only the seniors at my age and maybe your age, but the children now have epidemic, chronic conditions and proimmune, immune formulation 200.

as the doctors would testify, is the answer.

So one thing before I leave, I'd like to just announce two things, actually.

I came up with something a couple weeks ago.

Thanks to Dr. Fogarty asking me to do more and more for the good people of America.

And I come up with a, I beg corporate, you know, just have to go to the corporate attorneys, they ask for everything.

And I was able to get 10% off for veterans.

So veterans that may be struggling with

PTSD or TBI or whatever conditions, depression, whatever it is, they could go to my website www.thebestimmunesupport.com, put in the code VETS10 at checkout, and they receive 10%.

I have another special thanks to Dr. Edward Ted Fogarty who initiated it, the 5% extra discount on the 10% already discount on the six pack.

So that brings it down to a 15% discount because many people buy the Sixpack because they give it to the whole family.

So I've come up with another code that checked out on the Sixpack KXEL5 and then your audience would receive 15% with free shipping.

That's

awesome.

And it is awesome because as a distributor, I only earn a few dollars, you know, per jar.

But I give that back to the people in the best ways that I can.

Last thing I want to announce, June 6th and June 7th, I will be in Omaha, Nebraska at No Name Nutrition.

Josh Hurley owns that.

His grandpa started it 48 years ago.

They're having a 48th anniversary at both locations.

One of them is that 2023 North 72nd Street.

And the other is 14469 West Center Road in Omaha, Nebraska, June 6th and 7th.

I'm trying to get back to Fogarty to drive up.

That'd be good.

Boy, I'll be there.

I'll be there.

Hey, Joe, I'll be there because I love to see you

again.

for the 40th anniversary, because no name nutrition.

Boy, this guy is a great guy.

Well, this is where I bought some of my own proimmune, Joe, and they are great people there.

Yeah, they are great people there, and it would be great to see you there.

Great, great people.

Next

time you get

yourself up in spirulina, if you're not taking that as well, Dr. Fogarty will explain that as well.

You know, two great supplements, proimmune and spirulina, Dr. Fogarty could expand on that.

but war rations.

Pick up

some spiraling it too while you're there.

Yeah, this is Joe Castorino.

Joe, I'm so delighted that you're going to be back out in the area.

You were there at that wonderful induction for Dr. Fogarty at the Omaha Central Hall of Fame down there at the Holland Center.

And indeed these are wonderful places that

distribute this.

My wife and I use the Proimmune.

We love it.

We think it's really good.

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Mike Shane, let's go to

issue two.

I wanna focus on this, so.

Will this make the public debate or is this gonna be swept under the rug?

So, it's now coming out, the data doesn't lie, they tried to keep it under a bushel basket, but the truth always outs.

And obviously egregious mistakes of either terrible negligence or perhaps even malicious criminality were made in the conduct of our COVID policy.

Will we learn from those mistakes?

Will there ever even be a conversation about those mistakes?

Will there be accountability at all?

And whether you listen to national shows like Clay and Buck or this show here, we're arguing that there has to be an accountability for this.

However, my concern is, even as a former Republican legislator, that right now the Republicans are not talking about this issue.

Obviously, President Trump is very

proud of his rollout of his COVID policy and of course the Biden administration, firmly in the camp of Fauciism.

Will it take someone like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., do we need him on the ballot in all 50 states?

Because right now he is the clarion call, the sentry, the guardian of these concerns and rights and wanting to fix this, his

Writings have been seminal writings, well footnoted, well researched.

Do we need Bobby Kennedy in the race to square this issue?

I go first to Dr. Fogarty.

Doc, talk to me.

Absolutely.

You know, Bobby Candy Jr.

and I are actually friends.

And I've been one of his advisors for over 10 years regarding vaccine safety matters.

And he knows all about hyperbaric and proimmune immune formulation 200.

He's actually using it himself.

His whole team is because Joe Casarino got it into that crowd and that campaign to protect them while they're on the campaign trail.

But there are some media outlets that I want to highlight that are associated with Bobby Kendi Jr., including his own Children's Health Defense Organization, which has all kinds of incredibly important, well-documented science regarding the COVID vaccine, scandemic, pandemic.

Bobby Kendi Jr.

wrote the book.

on Tony Fauci's egregious behavior for the last 40 years in service to this global pandemic cartel, and then also wrote another book on the, the Wuhan, the, the fraud out of Wuhan.

So, you know, if you look at it from a global leadership position, Bobby Kennedy Jr.

is not just one of the most important attorneys in the history of America, taking down big companies who are poisoning our

air our water and and doing all these incredible things for the little guy but he's also a journalist and writer beyond anyone in documenting what's going on with this all of this fraud

yes

and and and i also want to point out that our listeners across the midwest please if you want the best journalistic scientific and legal understandings of the background of all this please start watching del big tree

on the high wire.

Dell and I are friends.

Dell came up to North Dakota to testify with me on some vaccine restriction bills, and we almost got one passed.

But there is this thing going on in the media landscape, and everybody sees it.

The King has no clothes with the establishment media.

And these podcasts with Bobby Kennedy Jr.

and Joe Rogan and what we're doing even in the Midwest, we're the ones telling the truth.

And that goes with Dell Big Tree too.

Dell Big Tree's organization has retained Aaron Seary, who is literally, in my opinion, our top flight attorney for health freedom.

taking down as many of these criminal restrictive laws and forced vaccination situations in multiple jurisdictions.

And of course, those things get no press because we are under a regime of a political medical racket.

that has literally absconded with the Constitution over the last four years.

Here with Dr. Ted Fogarty, Dr. David Hartzuch, you and I, ironically, were at the Iowa State Fair where I was conducting radio interviews or presidential candidates.

We both got to spend some significant time with our FK Junior.

How important do you believe his getting on the ballot is to at least have a conversation

about our COVID and national health care policy and to correct the grievous errors that were made and without him on the ballot, will either party run this up the flagpole?

I'm afraid not.

Dr. Hartzich, what say you?

I think it's important to get the RFK on the ballot.

I was up at the Capitol at the Iowa Capitol and I was talking to legislators about this situation with the Board of Medicine.

And many of them, their attitude is, oh, let's just get on with life.

Let's pretend that COVID never existed.

And they don't realize the serious consequences are a kind of result if we do not understand the pathogenesis of this problem.

And that is that, you know, for example, Miranas up in Maine, this is a woman who was an expert in bioterrorism.

And she made this statement that this is a bioterrorist attack.

And instead of listening to her, what they did is they took away her license immediately, emergently.

They said, oh, yeah, she can't practice medicine.

And so she's been bogged down fighting the boards over her right to free speech also.

And I think that what would happen

If RFK gets on the ballot in all 50 states, that would send a message loud and clear that this issue is very important to the American public.

And that's what politicians ultimately respond to.

Is it important to the public?

Doc, I'm terribly disappointed with the Iowa legislature of this General Assembly.

I don't think that they want to embrace their constitutional duties of oversight.

And frankly, when you're receiving money from Big Pharma, that's problematic.

Several of those key legislators are receiving money from Big Pharma and it's inexplicable.

I think there's a lack of zeal and a lack of courage, frankly, to confront this issue and it transcends both.

parties regrettably.

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We're here with Doctors Ted Fogarty, David Hartsich, and Mr. Joseph Casserino.

Joe, you get the last word on RFK.

How important is it that he gives the clarion call to make sure that we address the calamitous conduct of our COVID policy that left a trail of wreckage?

Do we need RFK Junior in the debate, Joe Casserino?

Oh, I believe we do, because as I've said several times on your show, RFK Junior speaks truth.

He speaks heart.

He's a Christian, a man of God, and he treats everyone like they're his own family.

I'd like to say that if your audience would like to visit his website, his charitable website, children'shealthdefense.org, there is a link to it on my website, www.

thebestimmunesupport.com and your audience could learn more about the chronic illnesses that children are facing.

It brings tears to my eyes when I scroll down to the bottom of the Children's Health Defense website and I see the chronic illnesses listed.

You will cry if you view it, you know?

So that's that.

And I want to give your audience my phone number.

A lot of times, seniors cannot access the computer and they have a question.

So my phone number is 845.

206-8104.

Anything I can do for anyone, young or old, my phone is always open.

If I'm not available, I call them back.

All the information about me and the work I'm doing with Dr. Fogarty and Dr. Albert B. Crum is available at www.thebestimmunesupport.com.

Thank you for your time and God bless everyone.

Great to have Joe Wei in here.

Mike Shane, issue three.

Now we're really going to get to brass tax here.

Issue three.

State of the Union.

States of the Union.

How important is it to keep the eye on the ball on your state, governor, legislators, et cetera?

We saw COVID policy all over the map.

from what Ron DeSantis did, which was very medical freedom oriented to the terrible things that were being done, for instance, in California by Gavin Newsom.

We have a tale of, if not two cities, two states, even between Nebraska and Iowa.

And I'm going to have Fogarty talk about the Iowa

The Nebraska Attorney General opinion that certainly differentiated between what Iowa did or did not do with COVID policy, then I'm going to have hearts such talk about what difference that made in outcomes.

And we'll have Joe way in as he sees fit also, but Dr. Fogarty.

You know, Attorney General of Nebraska Doug Peterson was

Really, I think in retrospect, this was the most important decision to ever come out of any Attorney General's office during the pandemic.

I agree.

I agree.

This is so important, what he did.

It was amazing what Nebraska did.

Yeah, and it's immediately preceded by just about three to four weeks, what I would call the what the Fogarty bill in North Dakota.

The North Dakota legislature had a special session to protect all the all the licensures of any provider in the state of North Dakota.

for the use of ivermectin with any COVID patient.

And that includes the pharmacist and nurse practitioners.

And so a kudos to the North Dakota State Legislature for enacting that in November of 2021.

But in October of 2021, there was a 44 page legal opinion rendered by the Nebraska Attorney General's office that basically went through exactly what Dr. Hart's such as going through in a pro safe fashion, that it is absolutely Hippocratic practice to

to prescribe whatever you think as a physician, your patient needs to combat this pandemic disease.

Dr. Just for our audience, Hippocratic is good.

That's from the Hippocratic oath.

We're not saying Hippocratical.

We're saying Hippocratical, which means it's good.

It's medical ethical going back to Hippocrates.

Thank you for that clarification.

My barometric barrister friend.

So yes.

So although, although the Peterson, you know, decision

was specific to hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin it really opens the door for everything we do as physicians and you know especially in a war theater environment to have the political medical apparatus of this nation of america restricting the the privileges and and and powers of our physicians across this nation in treating this bio weapon speaks to the fact that our federal health care apparatus and government has been

taken over.

And, you know, if not for great physicians like Dr. David Hartsuch and attorneys in America who are with them working on this health freedom problem, like you have been, John, and thank you so much for what you did for the great state of Iowa in your last days as a legislator, because your health freedom bill was exactly what Iowa needed at that time and still does.

But I'm going to turn it over to Hartsuch, pick up on, you know, this whole

whole freedom of speech issue and he without without having a license to practice law is articulating this beyond the nine better than really anybody else.

Oh

he is and he came up with the most salient and shocking stat that has haunted me to my very core.

Dr. Hartzich can you repeat in layman's terms

the difference in outcomes in treating COVID between Nebraska and Iowa.

And do you believe that some of that were ramifications of the variance between the two states policies or procedures or moral suasion or general guidance or directives, whatever you want to call it?

Absolutely, John.

And I want to really echo what Ted Fogarty has said about your role in the legislature in the last days of your

term of office because you were perculean in your defense of medical freedom that was so necessary in Iowa.

And basically, you know, in Nebraska, here you had the Attorney General defending the rights of physicians to treat and patients to receive early treatment for COVID-19.

In comparison, you have an Attorney General here in Iowa.

but basically defending the criminal elements of the board's actions.

And the result was that the case fatality rate for patients who had COVID in Iowa was 37% higher in comparison with those in Nebraska.

And we have very similar populations, similar numbers of cases of COVID, but in Iowa,

If you got COVID, you would be 37% more likely to die of the disease in comparison if you got it in Nebraska.

And that turns out to roughly 27% of the patients who died of COVID died unnecessarily because of the actions of the board in restricting the early use of life-saving treatment for COVID.

And this is an important thing to remember.

I've been recently completed my appellant sprees to the Supreme Court on the issue.

And I was kind of haunted by that idea of the number of patients that died.

And that number is about 2,600 people.

2,600 people died unnecessarily because of failure to receive early life-saving treatment for COVID-19, such as hydroxychloric and ivermectin, or other off-limit drugs.

And so in the Bible it says that in the last days the saints will rise up and judge the living with Jesus.

And I got thinking of it was really a haunting thought that maybe those 2600 people may rise some day in the last days and judge those people to put them in the grave.

Well, I wonder what the voices of the unborn, the 60 million unborn that have been

slaughtered in America.

in their mother's wombs if they won't cry out for justice as well.

Dr. Hartzich, without getting too far on the political weeds, it's interesting now we've had changes of Attorney General, both in Nebraska and in Iowa as of January 1st of 2023.

So always important to monitor all the changes in our government there.

Again, guys, I gotta thank Jim and Cindy Jandron.

They're with us on these issues.

at Midwest Renewable Energy LLC, but they sponsor life runners and very much want to help everybody, including our ag families with the income streams they get by working with Midwest Renewable Energy LLC, ethanol, renewable fuels.

And it also makes sure that one or two big corporatist entities doesn't control our nation's food supply.

Our food supply is still controlled largely by thousands of Midwestern ag families.

And of course,

We know what's going on in the Middle East.

We know that Iran is still getting US money, unbelievably.

We know that it's still going to go to the area of the Middle East where we've currently got a war going on.

And it doesn't make sense for the US to fund our enemies.

And so Midwest Renewable Energy, LLC, mitigates that by making sure that we make the energy here in America Midwest Renewable Energy.

LLC is clean, it's lean.

and it's green, Curtis Haymes coming up with us next.

Joe Casarino, what say you?

How important is it for our states to have the courage to do the right thing here and to get our pharmacies to have the courage to do this?

You're probably getting to some of these non-national corporate pharmacies that have the guts to not follow corporate and to do the right thing, Joseph Casarino.

Oh, absolutely.

Most sweet pharmacies.

I'm working with that.

independent, but I'd like to point out a testimony of Dr. Joseph Latipo, the Florida State Surgeon General that Dr. Fogarty had sent to me.

Dr. Latipo wrote this for the U.S.

House of Representatives Committee on the Judicial Subcommittee on the Constitution and Limited Government.

This describes everything that we're speaking about here in the testimony by Joseph Latipo, the MD, Florida State Surgeon.

general and maybe Dr. Fogarty could explain where people could read this because everything we're discussing is penned beautifully in this testimony and I think it's important for the audience to read this to see what's going on.

I showed it to my daughter who is a Harvard Medical School, a Harvard grad and a Tufts Medical School student and she didn't get it.

She was insulted that I sent it.

You know, here we go.

I don't want to argue with my daughter, but you know, I'm trying to explain what's going on.

and she doesn't get it, you know, so I have to spread very lightly, but I'm tripping away to help her understand that there are alternative ways.

Do you know what I mean, John?

I do, I do.

So guys, let's do this with Mike Shane here.

We've got

Five minutes left.

Let's do lightning round.

90 seconds each for closing arguments, wrap-up arguments.

You have the mic.

Mike Shane, issue four.

Closing arguments today, 92nd drill each.

What do you want to leave us with today?

And what's been a wonderful conversation, Dr. Ted Fogarty.

We're going west to east, Ogallala, Nebraska, the Lake McConaughey guy, Dr. Fogarty.

Well, teaching over state lines should not be considered illegal for medical professionals in teaching people how to save themselves from a bioweapon.

And with that said,

I want to teach the audience, do a search on any browser on Lottapo, L-A-D-A-P-O, and congressional testimony.

And you will see real time how he was pilloried by one of the Democratic Congresswomen on his professional stature.

she went in there and basically was trying to impugn him for not being an infectious disease specialist and not being a vaccine researcher and basically impugning him that his opinions and his facts and his truths are not legitimate because of some sort of academic pedigree and this guy has a PhD in epidemiology and an MD

and has been affiliated with Harvard and UCLA and NYU.

And it's just an obvious, it's an obvious example of the tyranny that we are under at the congressional level in what happened to Dr. Joe Lottipo in the halls of Congress with this ridiculous scrutiny of his medical career.

Thanks, Dr. Fogarty.

Let's go to Dr. David Hartsuch, your closing comments, Doc.

Yeah,

John, it's, you know, I was reminded in Ted Fogarty's paper, there were seven footnotes with regard to one statement, and that is the, there were seven papers written about how these precursors affect viral illness.

But anyhow, we had in Iowa,

One physician who was investigated for selling vitamin D in his clinic.

Unbelievable.

That is how trivial the boards have become.

And I want to leave the listeners with one thought.

And that is that patients have a right to be treated for their disease.

They have a right to choose who is going to be their physician.

And the right of a physician

comes not from the government, not because they give us a license.

It's because we have devoted our lives to learning, and it is the patient ultimately who grants the authority of physicians to treat them.

It is by their consent, not the consent of the government, to see who is a physician.

Patients have a 14th Amendment right to be treated, and there is a reciprocal right of physicians to treat.

Physicians have a First Amendment right to speak and patients have a First Amendment right to hear.

Beautifully said.

I am so proud of this radio program today.

You do not hear this on mainstream media, but thankfully, and just with great appreciation, we have this clarion voice here.

Thanks to Midwest Renewable Energy LLC out of Eastern Nebraska.

Energy for a strong America's lean is clean as green because this ethanol renewable fuels Joe Casarino somehow There are still voices that are crying out in the desert like yours and Joe a minor miracle Despite my Going against the grain is incredible here that in a few hours yours truly

after being elected, takes over as president of the Iowa Broadcast News Association.

Can you believe that a conservative like me can somehow sneak under the radar and take the helm of this wonderful group of esteemed professionals?

I'm very grateful and honored and actually amazed, Joe Casarino.

You're an amazing person, an amazing man, and you speak for truth like the other doctors do on the show.

And what I want to say in closing is I believe the all-natural, less toxic methods of healing are critical to addressing the root cause of mostly all these chronic illnesses.

And the root cause is oxidative stress inside the cell.

Promune, Immune Formulation 200, the glutathione precursor, mitigate oxidative stress inside the cell.

to reduce the oxidative stress, excuse me.

address the root cause of these chronic illnesses.

It's all about the chronic illnesses.

It's all about the oxidative stress inside the cell, and nothing does that better than the chromium-immune formulation 200.

I'm not saying it because I want to earn a couple dollars a jar as a distributor.

I'm saying it because it's fact and it's truth, and the people need to hear that there are answers out there like hyperbaric oxygen therapy that the great doctor David Hotsuch has in his rejuvenate clinic.

There are all-natural

modalities available to people that are non-toxic.

And that's why I'm proud to be with these great doctors and with yourself, John, because we are bringing non-toxic healing to the public.

Thanks to you.

So yes, I do believe it.

I believe what you are doing, and I'm grateful for you and the show and the great doctor, Hans Such and the great doctor, Edward Ted Fogarty.

Thank you.

Well, I appreciate all you guys.

I'm appreciative of this Easter season that Jesus Christ was incarnate.

and came, lived, cured, preached, died for our sins and rose from the dead to redeem us.

And we're all sinners who fall in short of the glory of God.

I just am humbled as clay that the great potter Almighty God can use to sometimes allow us to be instruments of good.

And it's such an honor and a privilege.

You know to be able to be some small part of that is terribly imperfect is as all of us are and as meager really as I believe my impact and it has been what what I've been honored by is these great colleagues.

that are advancing the ball down the field.

No one can do this by themselves.

You know, I think at best in life, now in my seventh decade, you know, it's unrealistic to think that I'm going to catch that 80 yard touchdown pass, but

I just want to be in there for a play during a long ADR drive, maybe help get a first down with a third and one line plunge off tackle call, move the marker a little bit.

And that's what it's about.

And it's so important now to educate because

as we

age, as we age out and, and, uh, you know, we're all men here of a certain age, we need others to pick up this baton.

And there's so much work to do because there's so much.

brainwash and going out even in our medical schools and with our media that is wonderful that Dr. Stein gives us this opportunity.

that our sponsors give us this opportunity to talk science.

If you want to follow the science, we've got it here.

These two doctors are the ones that had almost perfect records during COVID and Joe Casarino has got a product here that I believe has firmly benefited my wife and me and our immune system during the entire winter.

So guys, studio audience on their feet, we thank

Dr. Fogarty, Dr. Hart, such a joke, Casarino.

You kindly sent me that six pack.

I'd like to get one of those to Caitlin Clark.

One to Kate Martin, one to Gabby Marshall, one to Hannah Stilke, one to Sid Apholter and one to Molly Davis.

That six pack was awesome this year and they're taking the whole country by storm.

America loves the Iowa Hawkeye women, America's team.

Guys, thanks for being with us.

Godspeed, Safe Travels.

You'll be back again on this show before you know it and that podcast will light up all over the fruited plane.

We certainly have great confidence in that.

Dr. Ted Fogarty, you have the last word as we exit here for our interview with Hames Holmes.

Thank you, John.

I just wanted to articulate to our listening audience across multiple state boundaries through the Midwest that proimmune immune formulation 200 as patented under CA 296-3131 is an antiviral supplement that was literally designed for this pandemic by Dr. Albert B. Crumb and by invoking the federal grant.

from North Dakota out of the CARES funding, the CARES Act funding for the use of Pro Immune Immune Formulation 200 as a medical countermeasure coming out of North Dakota where I was tasked with broadcasting this, not just into North Dakota, but all of the units that we have, we have already found a primary medical countermeasure in glutathione amino acid precursors, which Tony Fauci himself proved with our tax dollars

In 1991, glutathione amino acid precursors are mother nature's ultimate biodefense shield against all RNA pandemics.

There's federal imprimatur for the use of these countermeasures across America for all physicians to be unharassed in the use of glutathione amino acid precursors.

Wow, that...

is documentation to the Nines guys.

We thank these three gentlemen and they will be back soon.

Crowd on their feet for these three gents that did such a superb job today.

Mike Shane, this is my favorite time each week and now that we have truly had springtime weather I mean it's officially spring when you see the azaleas at Augusta National and we've gotten past the Masters and Caitlin Clark is heading to the Indiana Fever after that great performance

in New York City.

Maybe Barbara greased the skids for the triumphant arrival of Caitlin up in New York City.

I know Barbara was up there on some business, but Curtis Haymes, welcome back to show our studio audience giving you props here on their feet.

Very delighted to have you back.

Guys, I love the Haymes family.

My family's known the Haymes family for 60 years.

And when Kurt and Norma officially started this back in circa 1970, I was, uh, uh, well, I was a junior high student and I was watching those great Haymes commercials on then WMT now KGAN channel two.

They're at broadcast park right across from

Collins Radio Rockwell, and how ironic.

Cracklin' Rosie by Neil Diamond was the background music, so it was an homage.

We continue that tradition.

Curtis Haymes, you're part of the next generation of leadership of those beautiful communities you have there in Southwest Cedar Rapids.

Welcome back to the show.

Thank you for having me, excited to be here.

Curtis, you know, I'm...

I just got through tax season at the bank and our bank manages about 2.5 billion of assets under trust management.

We've got hundreds.

and hundreds of fiduciary tax returns that need to be generated.

We have to administer estates, conservatorships, probates, and Curtis.

If we didn't have policies and procedures in place with literal checklists, with boxes, to make sure we've dotted the eyes, crossed the T's, done everything that we need to do legally,

to close out in the state or even a tax return, we'd be lost.

You're helping your folks on your wonderful HamesHomes.com, HamesHomes.com website.

You've given us a checklist to evaluate your manufactured home community.

Let's talk about how we honestly evaluate the reputation of a manufactured home community.

Absolutely.

John, one of the first things

we'd like to talk about here is a reputation and being a family-owned business, being here for many years, being in Eastern Iowa for 55 years here on the southwest side for 30, 35 years almost, we're very proud to be part of the Eastern Iowa community.

We think our long-term relationship with the town shows that we have trust

in the area and hopefully the area has we've earned the area's trust here.

So we think our longevity is one of the great things that allows people to see that we have a positive reputation and I have that as our number one checkpoint.

The key is are you doing business with someone who's reputable, who's going to be gone like a thief in the night, a family owned company, we want to be

In business here for many more years and do that you need to be reputable

Well Curtis as humble as you folks are I can tell you that this is a well deserved reputation that you have You have done so much work

in the community writ large, the food pantry success.

You won the Connect for a Cause Award from Corridor Business there, and you've been winning other awards, like the Bravo Award.

You guys were honored there years ago at the Good Morning Sea Rapids Breakfast, and Summit View has received the Neighborhood Award for your storm cleanup efforts there.

the folks at the Westdale Area Neighborhood Association.

You've been plugged in with them and I'm really proud of what you guys have done.

It's been the epitome of what Adam Smith thought was part of the moral and ethical undergirding necessary in a free market economy.

That's very kind and very well said.

I think there is a great opportunity

for buyer and seller to both really, really thrive.

And Adam Smith had it right and I subscribed to that as well in that both sides of an interaction can be enriched.

And that is our goal here is we want to provide safe, clean, affordable housing.

We keep it very simple.

We don't want people to come in and not understand our product or way of living or their financial commitments.

So we're a kind of a one-stop shop for all of the above.

It's very easy.

We want to make home ownership very simple, safe, clean, make it your way, make it the Haynes way.

I think that's beautifully, beautifully said.

And I'm going through my checklist here.

And Curtis, years in business, longevity,

Check, as you said, 55 years.

I'm in my seventh decade.

I remember your great family business of your grandfather and grandmother going back to my childhood.

So years in business, longevity counts.

Check.

Concerns from homeowners.

Are they handled correctly?

Check.

You guys are A plus rated in Better Business Bureau.

Three, state licensure.

Are you appropriately licensed?

Totally, you're Iowa certified, manufactured home installers, you've got in-house finance company that's licensed and registered.

From top to bottom, you guys are licensed.

Website transparency, do you openly provide the facts?

You've got such a great website.

I mean, you've got financing apps, community rules, easy contact form, bilingual monthly newsletters, awesome.

Number five, your service department.

Is it dedicated or outsourced?

Yours is dedicated.

You are there on site all the time.

It's beautiful.

And you know your people there.

It's not outsourced.

They're in-house.

And then your local involvement.

We just talked about your integration with the community.

Your members of the Iowa Manufactured Housing Association.

You've got the onsite.

food pantry, but I would tell you, if you just look at the props, at the referrals, at the kudos, at the testimonials from your residents online, it is awesome.

Curtis, seven out of seven, I've checked the box for every one of the seven on the checklist for Haymes Homes.

Thank you for verifying here, and we want to continue to earn this reputation day in, day out.

While we're doing well today, we want to continue doing well into the future.

Well, I'll tell you, our studio audience is on their feet.

I'm going to come out and see mom when she returns from California.

So I'll be seeing you very soon, Curtis.

Always great to have you, my friend.

Very good.

Thank you for having me.

Have a great weekend.

See Hames, the Homes people.

And Curtis, Hameshomes.com is the website.

How about a phone number and an address just in case they want to drive out or call you directly?

Exactly.

Stop by any time.

We love appointments.

We love walk-ins.

Our sales center is at 5410 Wabash Street on the southwest side of Cedar Rapids.

Look at our Facebook.

Look at our Twitter.

Look at our website.

Hames Homes.

Give us a call.

319-377-4863.

Have any questions.

Please, please, please reach out any way that's most convenient for you.

Thanks, Curtis.

We'll talk to you next week.

Mike Shane, what an epic show today, I want to thank Midwest Renewable Energy, LLC, Jim and Cindy Jander, the great people making ethanol renewable fuels, undergirding revenue streams for our farm families, keeping America's food supply safe, and owned and operated by Americans, not by corporate industrialists, but American farm families, and relying less on Mideast.

oil by keeping energy made in America's cleanest green Midwest renewable energy LLC.

Thanks to Drs.

Fogarty Hartsuch.

Thanks for Joe Casserino, Curtis Haymes.

This is Mike Shane and John Jacobson, wishing you a continued happy Easter season.

until we hit Pentecost coming up.

Be safe, be smart, be good, be strong.

Love Jesus Christ.

God bless us everyone.

Go to the podcast kxl.com slash jacobsen.

God bless each and every one.

Bye bye.