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Yes, we have been digging out of 30 inches of snow that has covered all of the Hawkeye State in all four quadrants.
Folks, next week is February, the beginning of February, and that means only four weeks till March.
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We're going to recap this week in Hawkeye land.
The good, the bad, the ugly and the beautiful with Iowa men's and women's basketball and update on the offensive coordinator situation.
Wrap up New Hampshire after the Iowa Hawkeye Hawkeye.
And we've got some wonderful interviews.
Curtis Haymes up on deck, along with Dr. Peter Jacobson, his
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Guys, there's
been a
lot going on with Hawkeye hoops, both men's and women's, the good and the bad, the ugly and the pretty.
And also, we've got possibly some
football prognostications on this beautiful wintry saturday morning distinct guys we're a few days from february one and then it's only 28 days four weeks till march and i call march springtime in iowa and also speaking of springtime we're arching towards super tuesday iowa and new hampshire set out the marker get us caught up my friend
Well, thanks, John.
There's a lot going on this week.
Chip Readman around Iowa City, around Carver Hawkeye Arena, as well as the Hayden-Fryer football complex.
Friday morning, Scott Dockerman of the Atlantic, or excuse me, the athletic, tweeted out a photo of Kurt Ferenc, possibly meeting with his future offensive coordinator, Kevin John, the offensive coordinator, former offensive coordinator from Duke.
They were meeting at the Marriott across the street from a Kinnick Stadium in a true Kirk Farron's fashion chip.
It was no cloak and dagger.
He's just having a cup of coffee right there at breakfast in the courtyard.
So that tells me one of two things.
Either Kevin Johns is the new offensive coordinator or Kirk Farron has gone completely mad and is just trolling Iowa Hawkeye Nation.
I think I would probably lean towards the trolling side a little bit.
I don't blame him for actually having it out publicly.
I think there's probably no two-year motive to that.
The point being that he wants people to know that he's actually, you know, working on this.
Letting people know that there's an effort being made to try and bring someone in.
So that's kind of my read on the whole thing.
Well, I thought it was interesting.
Earlier this week, new athletic director, permanent athletic director, Beth Gates held her official
press conference, she was welcomed to the stage by President Wilson.
And during the question and answer segment of the press conference, like Director Getz said, she was very confident in the way that the offensive coordinator position was moving forward.
And she basically said she thought an announcement was imminent.
So I don't know if she knows something or maybe she was putting a little pressure on Kirk.
because this is dragging out.
We are now at day 89 or 90, depending on how you count the calendar days.
And for those at home wondering why this is such a big angst, Alabama was able to replace the goat himself, Nick Saban, in under 10 days with somebody.
And Kurt Farrance is dragging this thing out.
There's a lot of angst, and Kurt has to get this right ship.
Yeah, I would think it's probably being more polite than anything.
A little bit of pressure, of course, is applicable.
But you mentioned about Alabama.
So in the time that Kirk has had to try and find an offensive coordinator, Alabama has replaced their coach with the Washington coach.
The Washington coach has replaced their coach with the Arizona coach.
The Arizona coach has replaced their coach with the San Jose coach.
That's four universities, all I can say to Domino's,
have all had to replace their coaches in the amount of time that we're waiting for Kirk to make a decision offensive coordinator.
As you said, Scott in previous episodes, looks like Paul Chris was a candidate.
Maybe that really set things back for him.
I don't know if you can account for this many days of a setback, but that probably really didn't help in the search.
And I also wonder if there's any blowback coming out of that, that maybe, you know, this is a pretty tight community.
And if things weren't done well with
Paul, Chris, maybe there's word that got around on the streets like, hey, this isn't the job that you want, or maybe he offered us as good as you think.
There's something negative that would just put this whole thing on the low gear.
Yeah, I think that's where a lot of this is because there was a lot of
optimism that Paul Chris would have been the new offensive coordinator at Iowa and so this dragging out is not a positive reflection right now on the legacy of Kirk but as we talk about what's going on let's not forget you know Jim Harbaugh has left Michigan and he is now back in the NFL so Michigan will probably have an internal hire that will go with their
their coordinator, Moore, who was the interim coach when Jim Hartball was basically sidelined for his cheating scandal.
But then we also have breaking news that the other night at Ames Hilton Coliseum, Kansas State was in a fist fight game, a rock throwing game against Iowa State.
And at the end of the game, there was some verbal
jousting going on between the two coaches and Kansas State is now accusing Iowa State of spy gates that they were monitoring and spying on the team huddle during the game.
So this is very interesting going on at Ames and I know you're in a lump of Ames.
I'd like to get your thought on that chip.
I don't know.
I'm almost speechless over the whole deal.
I'm sure everyone looks a little bit.
How intense do they come up with, you know,
definitive evidence of someone doing something or it was just a narrow talk.
I didn't see all the news on it, other than just shake my head and said, okay, here we go, another story of something looking bad.
I'm never a big fan of fights.
It's amazing.
I actually, I'm kind of surprised you don't get more fights.
Sometimes at basketball games, the way elbows are thrown out on the court.
There's a lot of self-control that has to be had in those kind of situations.
And I think there's a lot of players, I'm sure, are looking to egg on an opponent to put themselves in a compromising position and have the technicals thrown and possibly thrown out of a game.
But sometimes it's just a little too much.
I don't think fans are coming looking for a hockey match, you know, where the gloves are going to be dropped.
So I'm just kind of half speechless about the whole thing.
You know you talk about altercations, we saw an altercation Sunday afternoon in Columbus.
Ohio at the end of the game,
hard fought game, inconsistent a refereeing of that entire game.
Hannah Stokey was mugged repeatedly under the rim.
And then after Ohio State had defeated Iowa, a fan who had a lanyard, so that tells me she was somehow affiliated with the Ohio State program, ran into and knocked the wind out of Caitlyn Clark.
It was caught on national news.
And all of a sudden, Gene Smith showed his head down there in the Iowa locker room to apologize to Clark into Bluter.
There's got to be some consequences moving forward.
The players have to be safe, especially with court-storming and such a visible player, Caitlyn Clark.
She is the face of men's and women's basketball.
And Matt Painter,
The head coach of Purdue had talked about that earlier this season about court storming and there has to be notice coming out of the Big Ten headquarters as well as athletic director gets.
She has to be communicating with all the athletic directors that when Iowa comes you better have a strong security presence to make sure that those players are safe and not a bunch of
Barney Fies walking around there, allowing people to get knocked to the ground and things are moving forward, Chip.
Yeah, and if you bring up the Purdue one, that's in reference to the Purdue and Nebraska game.
When Nebraska knocked off number one Purdue, they had their own court-storming incident there.
They had probably twice as many people go on to the court as what they did in the Iowa State game.
And their coach was obviously not happy about that situation.
From what I understand, the SEC actually does
Levy finds against schools for doing that.
Why the Big Ten doesn't?
Why the NCAA?
Well, nothing surprising, the NCAA, why they don't get called in some of this stuff.
But yes, you're right.
There does have to be some action taken to protect the kids.
I don't want it to become like a situation where it's like a professional football or a professional soccer match where you've got a ring of yellow-jacketed people surrounding a court at the end of the game trying to intimidate everyone.
Just the whole look of that situation looks bad.
So it's going to be hard to try and figure out how to get around that without just putting monetary fines on there.
But Albert's even commenting, he says, he knows something's going to have to be done.
But trying to find the right balance between something that doesn't look gregarious and intimidating or welly, and it's going to be a hard one to solve.
Well, I think a great comment I saw earlier this week, I can't remember if it was Dr. Min or somebody along those lines.
that made the reference that in the Iowa Ohio State women's basketball game, it was not a last second shot.
They knew that the outcome was pretty well decided.
The officials could have stopped the game with, say, three to five seconds left.
and then talked to Bluter as well as the Ohio State coach and say do we need to have Iowa basically leave the floor because they could sense that the crowd was going to storm that court and I think that was something that should have been more proactive and the head of security at the Ohio State arena was not proactive whatsoever.
You have security guards and granted these are mostly retired folks and things along those lines they're not used to this type of
showmanship when Clark comes in uh... to any any arena but they were just standing around they had no idea what was going on and so i think there needs to be a strong lesson uh... to be learned because
When I first saw that clip, Chip, I was scared to death.
I thought Clark was injured.
The way she was knocked and knocked down as well as grabbing herself with pain, it just turned out that it was just the wind knocked out of her.
But that could have been a serious, serious blow to the Iowa National Championship run had Clark been injured after that court-storming episode.
Yeah, and like anything that you ever see on X, aka Twitter,
There was a lot of trolling about that.
A lot of people that I saw that you thought that she faked it.
It was flopped.
I don't look at it that way.
Some people said that she knew it.
She ran into the person coming onto the court.
You know, she was looking one way, a different direction than where the person coming onto the court was looking.
And the person that came on the court was, to me, I thought clearly looking up at her phone, not even paying attention to where she was running.
And if she is a university employee, you're right.
Something's got to be done about that.
Good Lord, if you're running onto the court, pay attention to what you're doing because someone can get hurt.
And that would be, I don't know if catastrophic would be overplaying it, but to have Katelyn Clark hurt for something as simple as that and jeopardize the rest of the season would be bad for not only for the University of Iowa, but for the entire women's college basketball scene.
So you're right, something has to be done.
I did see one guy, you know, when I was watching the end of the game, I did see one guy and you're right, they are older, older people like me.
We're not spring chickens.
And he looked like he was kind of corralling the Ohio State bench a little bit all by himself.
That's not going to cut it.
They need more people down there.
Absolutely.
And, you know, there was a security guard with a yellow shirt right near Clark when she was knocked to the ground.
He should have, there should have been orders given out that said, if you see Clark, you know, leaving the program or leaving the court, you basically, you are her shield until she gets into the hallway, into the locker room and hopefully gets is addressing this, but we talked about not only the Caitlin Clark incident and getting the wind knocked out of her ship.
Iowa men's basketball had the wind knocked out of them.
They had a terrible loss the other night at Carver Hawk, I arena.
This is a season that will be one that we will want to forget.
And as we move forward, the chances of Fran McCaffrey taking this team to the dance once again is basically on life support.
But at the same time, Creighton is moving right along.
We're seeing a resurgence of Fred Hoyberg in Nebraska program as Iowa State is rocking right through the Big 12 again.
This is an embarrassing loss that happened against Maryland.
They went over five minutes.
the Iowa men's basketball team without scoring a point and lose that game at home.
That was just devastating.
And this is something that I think has to be addressed moving forward.
I get that they're a younger team, but there is no alpha males on that team that say, when I am down, you know, the team needs a point.
Give me the ball.
At least when you have the Iowa women out there, you know that Clark is demanding the ball, and you know that Kate Martin is demanding the ball.
There's no alphas on that men's basketball team right now, Chip.
You're right, Scotty.
And that really comes back, I think, to the coaching that they haven't had someone step up or found the right player.
I'm not even talking even just recruiting.
I'm talking about going to the team, the seniors, the juniors, or someone saying,
Look, one of you guys has got to step up and lead this team.
You've got to, you know, you've got to help carry everybody a little bit.
Not necessarily on the floor, but you just got to be a vocal leader.
And that is disappointing to happen.
It has been a crazy year as far as basketball goes.
Yes, you're saying Iowa's down.
They've lost two in a row now after having a nice little win streak.
And things aren't going to be easier from now on.
It is crazy that Nebraska's actually got a good record going right now.
They're definitely a bubble team.
I would say another couple good wins and they're going to be in the tournament.
Who would have thunked at after the way that they performed the last three or four years.
Creighton went through a little dry spell here.
They seem to have come on strong.
They've got a couple easy games coming up now.
So I'd say that their chances of making the tournament are pretty good at this point, barring a complete collapse at this point.
So it's just, it's just crazy out there as to how teams' fortunes change.
And like you said,
You know, like I said, it comes back to Fran.
It's just he's got to do something different on the coaching yet.
I think he's just letting the team down there somehow.
You know, absolutely.
And I think after the end of the season, there's going to be some interesting conversations around Carver Hawkeye Arena about where this program moves forward.
But as we pivot, though, as we get closer and closer to February and March, and we talk about March Madness, we had some March Madness.
Happening in the presidential scene this week, Chip, where we had the Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, drop out before the New Hampshire primary, was even the voting even begun.
Everybody is basically coal-lessing in the Republican field around Donald Trump, except for Nikki Haley.
She is still moving forward.
But she didn't even qualify for the Nevada caucuses.
So Donald Trump has already won the Nevada caucuses before even within a week of that caucus.
What is going on in the presidential scene?
Is it basically a rematch moving forward between Donald Trump versus Joe Biden?
Or will the Democrats swap out Biden for a stronger candidate?
Well, it's all predictions at this point, folks.
Go to Vegas with these numbers, I'll tell you that.
It's interesting.
The media is really not even talking about Nevada and their caucus is at least not what I'm hearing.
It's all about South Carolina because it's Haley's home state.
And here's the odd thing about it.
People might not realize this.
They do have in South Carolina a Democrat primary and then they have a Republican primary.
They're like two weeks apart.
The South Carolina Democrat primary is this weekend.
I thought that the Republican was at the same time and then looking at a calendar and realized it's another three weeks, I think, down the road.
Yeah, it's everything all about South Carolina.
I'm pretty sure for Haley, I don't think she's going to do well.
The last poll I saw, she was 20, 30 points down.
If you can't do better than that in your own home state, you're
You really should bow out.
She doesn't have her own legislators from her state even supporting her.
So I just don't know why she's hanging on other than just try and maybe pull it Chris Christie and just troll him a little bit.
I found it interesting.
People might not be aware of this.
In New Hampshire, they said 70% of her votes were non-Republican votes.
In other words, that many people changed parties or voted otherwise.
the vote for her.
In other words, the bulk of her votes were not for Republicans.
Now, Trump needs the independent votes, but just somewhere in the back of my mind I'm wondering what is going on.
Is this all money being pumped in there to try and get people to show up and vote for her whether they will or not when it comes to the actual election in November?
It's just, it's a crazy situation out there, just like it is in the basketball world.
And I might add that the Cyclones are on a seven home game, home field, home court victory stretch right now against ranked teams.
That's a pretty impressive record.
I'm sure Ken is going to come in and have to be paying attention to what's going on and don't take this game too lightly.
All right, guys.
Well, what a nice flow that we have tied on.
An insightful analysis, as always, from Scott Corey and Chip Readman.
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Curtis, your homes have not only survived, they have thrived during these arctic climbs, haven't they?
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You know, you've got these neighborhoods, these wonderful communities, Summit View being one of them and Grand View being another one of them.
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We're very proud of what we do over here and definitely no offense to the hard, hardworking employees of the City of Cedar Rapids, but we would take the Pepsi Challenge for how clean we keep our streets and how safe we keep our neighborhood.
Well, I'm coming out next week to see you guys, of course, and it's always great to see Barb and the gang there, too.
But, you know, I made some New Year's resolutions this year, Curtis, and it sounds like you guys are helping folks out with their New Year's resolutions to let the Hames-Holmes people help folks out exercising, organizing, sleeping, reducing stress.
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You know, David Overholster is here with me in studio.
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The interest rates, Kurt, is very closely.
Mortgage rates have gone down a little bit here in the last month, and you guys, there's never been a narrower gap, which is a good thing, in terms of how competitive your financing is with mortgage rates with manufactured homes.
That's very well said.
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Curtis, it's amazing how competitively priced these are.
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Curtis and as we know this last full week in January is going to be balmy.
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That's a 50 degree temperature swing.
Curtis, when I come by and see you and Barb, maybe I'll be coming in my Bermuda shorts.
Who knows?
I love it.
Welcome to Iowa.
And Caitlin Clark and the girls continue quite an amazing stretch of Hawkeye athletics history, Curtis.
Oh man, what a heater they're on.
She never takes a game off.
My goodness.
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Well, you know, all of us at the Jacobson Group here,
want you all to stay healthy and hearty and happy during this cold and flu season.
We're right in the thick of things now heading into those dreadful February days of cold and flu and influenza season.
I still remember these days in 1969 as a young boy up there in Marion, Iowa, the victim myself as were my siblings.
of that dreaded Hong Kong flu, that influenza that swept through two winters here in the United States.
And it's nothing new, pandemics are cyclical to an extent.
Today we've got back the experts, Dr. Ted Fogarty, CARES Awards Grant winner, physician MD, recently inducted in the Omaha Central Hall of Fame.
I was
They're attending that great honor in the Big O on the other river at the other side of the state.
And Joe Casserino joining us from New York, the czar of probe immune formulation 200.
Welcome back gentlemen.
How do we keep folks healthy here across eastern Iowa and all the big 10 states listening in?
Dr. Ted, I'll let you kick
it off my friend.
Thanks John.
Well you know those of us on the west side of the Missouri River and the great state of Nebraska we've been we've been actually on the forefront of helping with all of this pandemic and getting people healthy despite our federal
healthcare apparatus, literally foisting a racket upon us for the wrong things in health and wellness.
And, you know, that even goes back to when Nebraska Attorney General Doug Peterson said it was perfectly legitimate for physicians, not just in Nebraska, but across the nation, to be advocating for ibermekans and hydroxychloroquine
in our
patients.
And,
you know, we
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It's a great play of Dr. Albert B. Crum who
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I'm going to hand it over to my buddy, Joe Casserino, and he's going to tell us some stories about his work with the promune in our great nation.
And take it away, Joe.
Well, thank you,
Ted.
And I'd like to thank you.
And I'd like the audience to know very clearly that Dr. Ted Fogarty does not take any money from me for recommending promune.
He does it from his heart.
And that's very important.
As do I. I came out of retirement to help Dr. Cromney introduce promune.
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And
I
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But I'd like to share with you, Ted, that many customers have been calling me up in the past, oh, gosh, month.
And many people have post-COVID costs, a lot of breathing issues, Ted.
And this is what they're telling me.
So you have taught me that when you shake the jaw and you see the dust rising from the jaw, that you could breathe it in three times,
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And that helps
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And people are sick all over the country and they're calling me telling me these stories.
And I want to read one thing that Bobby Kennedy's campaign manager, Katya, when I met Bobby Kennedy a couple months back in the city and I gave him the jaws of her immune.
I gave a couple extra to the campaign manager, Katia, and she just texted me two days ago, and I want to read you what she said.
She said, hi Joe, proimmune is magical.
I've been around my six kids on a bunch of planes, and I've had the beginnings of a viral infection a few times.
Each time I just increase the proimmune to twice a day and don't get sick.
I've recommended it to my homeopathic clients as an extra support.
Katia,
Philadelphia, New York City.
That's one example.
Another example is my son Stephen was in the hospital, um, two weeks ago, and his nurse, um, is a friend of our community where we live in Rhinebeck.
Her name is Christine.
And Christine read an article about the promune in my local paper in New York that I wrote about the promune and how it helps.
And, uh, she said,
I'd like to buy a draw.
I read the article.
I said, you know, Christine, you're doing so much for my son.
I'm going to gift you a draw.
So thank you for everything you're doing with my son.
And that was a few weeks, two or three weeks ago.
Thank you, pardon.
So she's been taking it and giving it to her family as well.
She contacted me, sent me another email.
This stuff is amazing.
How fast could I buy two more draws?
Where could I buy it?
So I recommended her to my local health food store.
But she's a nurse and she's telling all the nurses
in the hospital, you should be on this stuff because it works.
Yeah.
One last thing I'd like to say, Ted, before you explain about the cough and the shaking of the jaw and all that, is in your area, you know, of course, people can buy this from you at thebestimmunesupport.com.
They could call me up.
They could get the discounts and all that.
But if they live in your area and they're in the Dickinson area, I recommend they go to Erstfeld Pharmacy in Dickinson.
If they live in
Fargo, I recommend they go to Dakota Pharmacy.
If they live in Omaha, I recommend they buy it from Josh at No Name Nutrition or Medicine Man, you know, and they support their local, you know what I mean,
Ted?
Yeah, absolutely, Joe.
Yeah, and, you know, we're, we're obviously we're working with Dr. David Hartstuch out in the Quad Cities to help get his community on board with some pharmacists and some nutritional stores having access to pro-immune and immune formulation 200 local in the community.
I can tell you, Joe, that it's so important that you got it in my hometown of Omaha because just last week I got three jars at no name nutrition for three of my family members and friends who are dealing with some fairly serious medical issues.
And that's where we're basically trying to communicate to this whole Iowa crowd out of Waterloo and the KFDL team that this is really the best molecular insurance for every family in Iowa in the surrounding states.
I look at Pro Immune Immune Formulation 200 as molecular insurance.
And you can confidently look at this in a forward-thinking way as
How am I going to divert myself from the hospital?
If I come down sick with influenza or any of the other respiratory illnesses coming across planes now, or even this very scary consideration of there's something coming out of China again with this disease X, which in my opinion, this is a concoction of political manipulations and a second bio-weapon.
But we need to, in the Midwest and the farm communities, especially the
strong rural counties of Iowa, we need to create our own stockpiles from Unimune Formulation 200.
And from the medical standpoint, this is where, you know, as an emergency radiologist who reads chess DPs and works with all kinds of ER docs and ICU docs around the country at night, I'm telling you, this is how this all works in terms of helping your lungs with this chronic post-COVID cough.
When you inhale just a micro dose, it's literally micrograms that you would be inhaling when you shake the jar up and down and then just inhale that sweet smelling powder.
A small percentage of that triumvirate of three amino acids creating intracellular glutathione are going to go right to the spot where it's needed.
And so those three amino acids will travel down the airways and into the terminal bronchioles.
And those are the airways that
At such a small, tiny level, they're actually provoking cough.
They're still inflamed.
They're still irritated.
And the number one producer of inflammation, which we have as Dr. Trump joyously for plans all the time, we have 3 billion years of clinical trials on how important cellular glutathione is for every cell on the planet dealing with any form of oxygen.
And so these terminal bronchioles, then, although from a whole body perspective, it's a micro dose to your whole body, they're getting just the right amount in that inhaled powder called the pixie dust of Dr. Trumb.
They're getting just the right amount of the glutathione amino acid precursors in just the right ratios with the cofactors when I'm a finding to incorporate that little bit of glutathione into there.
their intracellular mechanism to start to reduce the inflammation at the cellular level of the terminal bronchial.
And so this is where Dr. Crumb's genius is just phenomenal in having created this incredible product of mother nature.
I mean, this is all basically mother nature's favorite place for reducing inflammation in our body.
Glutathione is the oldest molecular
chaperone of toxins out of the cell known to mankind, known to life on the planet.
And one side note is this is not glutathione.
This is the glutathione precursor.
So the cell replenishes the glutathione directly inside the cell.
That's very important fact to know why promenade is so different.
Yeah.
And by analogy from within the medical range, you know, when we've been giving steroids, you test my, for instance,
and we are having people, our patients, hail the steroids to reduce inflammation.
That works great in an acute setting, but over time you can get too much steroids and then it actually harms the body, it harms the lungs, and there's no harm in overdosing by microdosing, it's inhaled.
Proimmune Immune Formulation 200.
I have four cases of nurses and former veterans who have either asthma or COPD who have been inhaling and protecting their lungs since the start of this pandemic.
They've been inhaling this Proimmune that I started them on this protocol at the start of the pandemic to protect their lungs.
They're very vulnerable people and
Now, four years later, I'm starting to get data back, especially from my VA patient, his pulmonary function tests are improving.
That's something when you're in your nitilate 70, your pulmonary function test, this is a former smoker, they're supposed to continually decline through life.
He went to the VA in 2020 and had always been basically running at about 88% oxygen saturation.
And then last year, oxygen saturation is up to 98%.
He's been able to walk the hills on the Bluffs of the Plot River where we live.
He's one of my neighbors.
He's basically like, you've given me a new lease on life, Ted.
And so that's just how simple this is.
You know, medicine and science and the whole political apparatus of the NIH and Tony Fauci himself, they have been deceiving us as to how complicated it needs to be to deal with pandemics, to deal with viruses, to deal with all this stuff.
And here's Tony Fauci himself.
He actually proved on our tax dollars that glutathione amino acid precursors are the ultimate antiviral intracellular leaf.
If anybody wants to check my math out there, who's a physician listening to me or someone else in health care, just do a search on Fauci and glutathione and look at what pops up.
There are two scientific reports that will pop up with that search in PubMed, our nation's and our world's scientific database.
Go back to 1991 and 1992 that show that Tony Fauci himself had the answer, which is Dr. Crumb's answer now for all pandemic viruses.
Could I interrupt in here with
Dr.
Ted Fogarty, and we're going to give Joe Casserino the last word as we wrap up a fantastic segment here.
Joe Casarino, the distributor of a great product that I use for Immune Formulation 200 at DbestImmuneSupport.com.
Joe, take it away.
We give you the final word today, my friend, to all
of
our listenership throughout these brooded plains of
the Midwest in the Big Ten.
Thank you, John.
I'd like the audience to know from the heart I love people and I came out of retirement to help people because we're all suffering We're all struggling all of us is becoming ill and sick And if anyone would like to call me my private number is 845 206 8104 if anyone has any questions I'm always helping Helping the people answer the questions or order the prom unit.
They don't know how to use the computer last thing is
people that are vaccinated, I don't know if they realize that there's a lot of toxins and heavy metals in the vaccines.
And a lot of reports are coming out lately that they're causing these vaccines, they're causing cancers and chronic inflammation.
Even after people have the vaccine, they're becoming inflamed and proimmune reduces inflammation directly inside the cell as nature intended.
And as I said before, because it's a precursor and the glutathione molecule itself cannot do that.
only the precursors could get into the cell so that the cell could then replenish the glutathione to do what?
To take out the oxidative stress and the toxins and the heavy metals that are making us all sick.
I know you agree, Dr. Ted, correct?
Amen, brother Joe.
Amen.
Thank you, John.
It's a lovely show and we love the people and we want everyone to get healthy.
This is not about money.
This is about getting people healthy.
That's why we dedicate our time to this.
You know that, John.
You know it's very well.
Absolutely, and I'm glad that our audience knows it well.
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with Dr. Peter Jacobson, Russ LaColla, and Justin Clark.
Take it away, gentlemen.
So, Argentina's been kind of a mess lately.
I mean, off and on, they've been a mess over the years with policymakers taking control, new presidents that are a little bit more on the, let's just say, socialist leaning style of getting elected through handouts and
It's kind of a sad story throughout a lot of South America and Central America.
The populist regimes of not really being fiscally sound and monetarily sound, they tend to print off money, to get elected, to buy stuff, to give people food and other freebies.
And ultimately, it leads to inflation, like Argentina is experiencing right now, 143%.
So that is right in the old hyperinflation range.
So imagine listeners were talking 10% over 10% per month.
So we thought we had it bad in the United States when it was 10% per year and it's starting to come down.
But stable money is a chink in the armor of people being able to transact efficiently and productively when you can't bank on a stable currency.
So one of the things
that gets measured like with the economic freedom index is the sound money criteria.
And part of that is how is the government handling it?
So Argentina has been kind of a mess and the new leader comes in.
And Justin, you want to lead us through some of the elements of what this new leadership proposes for Argentina?
All right, so Javier Malay won the Argentinian presidency.
And he won it with, I believe, 55% of the vote, which I think is interesting and maybe something that we can come back to.
But Malay was seen as kind of an outsider candidate and he is a like a valid libertarian.
In fact, it kind of about anarcho-capitalist and ran on the principles of libertarianism and our anarcho-capitalism.
So as far as I know, he's like one of the first
actual heads of state in a modern industrialized economy who was explicitly the libertarian.
And I think he's been very successful at getting press because if you watch some interviews with him, you'll see that he's very volatile in the way that he speaks.
And he kind of has a kind of signature look.
He looks kind of like a cross between
Wolverine and a really unkempt version of Wolverine.
Interestingly, Malay trained as an economist.
He has a master's degree in economics.
Is that right?
He's
published.
Yeah, so I guess unkemptness is a quality of economists that we can expect.
Uh, he's written, uh, I think, you know, a number of academic articles.
I think it's around 30, but he's taught macro and microeconomics.
And it's, uh, I believe he got into economics, uh, because as a child, he was living in, um, Argentina and in Buenos Aires and witnessing, uh, you know, very high inflation.
And he thought, well, why is the supply and demand working here if
you know, prices are going up, people still want more and more of something, what's going on.
And so I'm very happy that Millay won the election and I think it will be interesting to see what he does as a result.
He's had some, you know, the policy he said he's going to enact.
Some of them are straight out of the like arms libertarians crazy book where he says like I'm gonna allow the free sale of firearms and the free sale of human organs Yeah, and he is on at the you know libertarians kind of divide over this issue But he's on the pro-life side of the abortion debate and because he considers abortion a violation of the right to life
Um, and so he talked about at least putting the permissive, um, abortion laws in Argentina up to a national vote.
Um, but, uh, so I'm, I'm pleased as punch that little IE won.
And I think it will be very interesting to see what happens.
And, uh, wondering what you guys think, but sometimes I think.
that what what's really interesting here is like, you know, and I hate it when other people do this, but I'm going to do it like the story of the story and how
this is
being portrayed in in the press too.
So
yeah, I think there's Justin, right?
There's like a million different ways you can look at this.
First off, Malay is tricky because like he someone
said the other day that I think it's basically true that like they were people were arguing about whether or not Malay is like MAGA or whether or not he's like part of like this you know revolution towards like a different politics.
and someone was pointing out all the policy differences, and one of their responses, this was just on Twitter, someone said, yeah, but you're missing the whole point, MAGA's vibes, it's not policy.
Which I think is basically true that vibes is what determines whether or not something counts as MAGA now, whatever the vibes are.
But he's an interesting character because if you just go to his Wikipedia, I pulled it up.
Here it says that he is described as, and there's a whole list, but I'm going to read you two of them.
ultra-conservative and ultra-liberal.
Now I don't know about you, but to me when I hear the words ultra-conservative and ultra-liberal, usually those things are different than each other.
So it'd be weird if it was ultra of both of them.
And there's like a way that like in your head you can like make that connection, but just as like a brief point like
He's very mystified.
The press is very actively giving him about 500 different labels.
Some are true.
I would describe him as right wing.
At least in Argentina, he's right wing because you watch his speeches and unless the translations are wrong, his usual pejorative cocktail includes leftist like every other word and variations of it, which again, I'm not going to get into.
So he strikes me as self-proclaimed right wing.
He's certainly an anarcho-capitalist by his own claim.
whether or not you want to say that's compatible with being a libertarian.
People have that debate, I don't know.
But he calls himself a libertarian as well.
So yeah, he's very much like what a US libertarian would call themselves.
Now, another controversy is that he's a populist.
And very clearly, there's no bones about this.
And so one of the narratives here that has been going on is, for years, both inside libertarian circles and outside libertarian circles, there's been this question of, I could a populist ever win?
like, you know, is the better approach to be a gradualist where like we, you know, have a DC think tank that gets into the policy circles and we slowly convince all the people in Washington DC to become libertarians.
Or do we go in with a sledgehammer and start just like smashing things down and telling people they're going to go to jail on calling them scumbags, you know, all these things, things that Malay has done.
And people say, well, you'll never win like that.
But then he did, right?
Now he did in a particular context, the whole country is falling apart economically and so maybe certain conditions are necessary for that strategy to work.
But he's sort of a repudiation of the idea that you have to be sort of like this get along person politics to win and that you have to be part of the system and you have to appeal to the elites.
Malay is proof that a populist can come in and win.
That doesn't mean he can succeed.
The biggest question in my mind is whether or not he is going to be able to do the things he wants to do.
I want to go back to something Peter said, because I think it's worth repeating, is that Malay can seem outlandish.
I'm a big fan of the idea that if you want to break the rules, you really have to learn how to, you need to know the rules before you break them
being a kind of like pure reactionary or reactionary for like the sake of reaction.
Those are very dangerous people to get behind, usually because they don't have a positive vision.
It's only negative.
It's just destructive.
But at the same time, we all know that this kind of reactionary rhetoric is very effective.
And so I think that to be the kind of reactionary that succeeds,
you need to do the kind of thing that I hope at least Malay is doing.
And it seems like he actually does know, as Peters put it, the inside baseball of libertarianism and also how the Argentinian state currently works.
And knowing both those things while at the same time being odiously opposed to it, I think that's, for me, a prerequisite to being able
to do this well.
So, you know, my fingers are crossed.
I really hope he does really well.
It would be hard to think that, I mean, I think there's some really low hanging fruit.
So the opportunities for success, I think, are there for him.
And I think that like South America is a great place for these natural experiments to get run.
I think it would be valuable to talk about some apprehensions too that we have.
So I have a few major apprehensions.
The first being that I think the number one obstacle for him is overcoming the corruption that's already in the government.
The way that I think about this always is like they're in any government structure like what occurs in most of South America is like there have been set up like really lucrative ways for people to take taxpayer money.
And when you threaten those ways, people are going to be willing to spend up to what they earn from those ways in order to stop you.
So if there's millions of dollars of plundering going on from the taxpayers in Argentina, that means there's millions of dollars of will to stop Malay from succeeding.
That's one.
Two is, I think that the US government, which more or less runs most of the world,
is not going to be particularly happy if there are a lot of what look like to be alternative ideologies succeeding in the world.
So I, and the United States did this with communism and socialism in the 70s and 80s.
Now I'm not a fan of communism or socialism, but the US was so worried about their success that
They intentionally undermined a lot of countries in order to stop that.
In fact, all the Middle Eastern troubles we see today were attempts to stop socialism and communism coming out of the Soviet Union to the Middle East more or less.
And so I am worried about if the more successful Malay is, the more of a target there is on him from, we would call them the global elites.
Maybe he beats the Argentinian elite, but he can't beat the global elite.
I don't know.
My third apprehension is there are some issues on which I'm a little worried about Malay on.
Malay seems a little bit more interventionist than most libertarians in the United States.
He was pretty hawkish on the Ukraine thing as far as I'm aware.
Now, I don't know if that was just rhetoric or if he would be supportive spending.
Like, that's a different question.
I don't know.
Because I don't have someone, probably someone rhetorically saying they want democracy in Ukraine.
Of course, I want that too.
But I would be bothered by someone who says we should send Argentinian money over there.
So I'm curious where he stands on that.
He's pretty hawkish on the Israel issue as well.
Again, I have similar feelings about that that I have about Ukraine there.
But that's like the one issue points at which I have like a mild amount of concern about him.
But it's almost an understandable place to be because if you're a capitalist in South America, maybe what you see is that like, well, insofar as like we're escaping the left, it's because the United States has like helped us in a certain way in the past or something like that.
Whether or not that judgment is true, I wouldn't be surprised if someone who is a capitalist in South America feels like it is.
He's been able to succeed because of the ideas out of the United States.
So it's almost like there is like a support for that sort of thing.
I don't know.
Justin, do you have thoughts on the foreign intervention stuff?
I don't know if you've heard it all about it.
I don't know enough about it to have any thought other than, you know, interventionism worries me, but as somebody who is as fiscally concerned as Malay is.
that there are fiscal limits to what you can support in terms of like foreign intervention that I think provide a natural break.
And I would hope.
And I would guarantee that he knows that, like, you know, a dollar spent on Ukraine is not a dollar that you can spend to help the Argentinian people.
Yeah.
And to some extent, this issue matters less than any country besides the U.S., right?
Yeah.
It's like, we are the major funders, right?
And so, like, no one expects Argentina to be the major funder.
And so, that sort of, like, being bad on that issue is not as important there.
Yeah, I'm not worried if, like, he is supporting us funding.
I'm more worried about us funding things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One thing that I thought was really interesting was the reaction, not just from the press, but also, like, Vivek had an interesting response to Malay winning Vivek Ramaswamy, who's running for Republican presidential nomination.
And Vivek said, you know, congratulations to Malay.
I should bring up the
Tweet exactly, but I can't remember.
But he talked about how Argenia had runaway inflation and he said, you know, you're going to have a really, you have some work cut out for you.
Like, may the spirit of Mises and Hayek be with you.
Really?
Yeah, which
that's why I like Vivek.
Okay.
I didn't even know he had a connection that way.
It's not just that I like Malay.
I mean, I do like Malay, but I also kind of like what Malay brings out in other people.
Yeah.
But the flip side to that is it's much more dangerous if he fails for whatever reason, whether within his control or outside of his control, right?
Yeah.
That he becomes the case study of, see these ideas don't work regardless of if it's his fault if they don't work.
Yeah.
certainly certainly uh... because we we did see that like hikes reputation is still uh... dismissed by panache even though he had nothing to do with that so you have free market economics for years to come we'll deal with these views if it really fails here
well it is uh... thanks that great interview on javier milley the free market economists now at the helm of argentina trying to turn things around their apportion globally for the resurgence of
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