KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - November 18, 2023

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You can listen live and you can grab this great podcast and all other podcasts here on kxl.com slash Jacobson and we're going to start out by introducing we're going to march to the trenches with Mike Shane the great Mike Shane Mike Shane the veteran engineer in the Midwest

formerly from that other collaborator blowtorch on the other side of the Missouri River out of Omaha.

Mike Shane, play your inimitable ringtone.

There it is.

When you hear this ringtone, you know that we are in equivalent hands of, I feel like James T. Kirk here with Montgomery Scott.

Nothing can go wrong, even if the dilithium crystals are fused.

And we have the world's greatest

A team, Scott, Corey, Chip, Raidman, Tim Grover, joining Shane and Jake here.

They are in remote.

I am in studio.

This is a wonderful, there's so much to be thankful for, despite a lot of bad news out there, there's much to be grateful for.

The bounty of Almighty God.

and how he has shown his light and preserved the United States for two centuries with the bounty of this land and the protection of divine providence.

We certainly haven't earned it.

Will we merit any consideration for its continuance?

We'll talk about that a little bit today.

But first, let's take a wind down the Hawkeye

Husker Cyclone Blue J Big 10 updates and let's crank up that Iowa fight song Mike Shane so much going on right now guys and as we take a look at the The Hawkeyes, you know, it's one of those seasons Scott Corey that It was the best of the worst and the worst of the best We were so close

you know, possibly without injuries to being close to a 12 and 0 team, but we were also close without that vaunted number one defense to maybe being an 0 and 12 team.

Losing Cooper DeGene really hurt Scott, but you know, we do have a bowl game coming up and can still get close to that 10 win season.

And then the question is, where do we go from here, Scott Corey?

You know, that's the interesting question in the 25 years under Kurt Barron.

Iowa's program has basically been known for not a whole lot of drama.

We've had teams such as the old four team that was just ravaged by injuries, especially on running back.

But to have the rest of injuries that we've had across the entire team, as well as now superstar Cooper Dejean going down in practice with a lower leg injury.

It's just stunning.

And then you throw in the fact that we had all the drama around the Bryan Farance contract and things along those lines.

And it has been a season that as a Hawkeye fan, I've never really experienced before.

I'm used to other teams, especially in the state, having a lot of drama around their programs, but not at Iowa.

And but that being said, there is a lot in front of this program yet.

They have the chance to, if they win at least one game between either Illinois or on Black Friday against Nebraska, they will be going to Indianapolis to represent the West the last time.

The West and the East will have divisions here in the Big Ten.

And so, you know, this has been a tremendous coaching job in a lot of ways.

When you talk about the offense or the defense as well as the special teams, the offense has just been abysmal and been the focal point, unfortunately.

But we would be remiss if we did not give a huge shout out to defensive coordinator Phil Parker.

He's been nominated once again for the top assistant in the nation.

Phil has never won that, which I think is just a travesty.

It is a travesty.

Considering how much pressure that Phil Parker's defense has been put under year in and year out, they are in the top, I believe, seven or eight defenses in the nation historically since 2015.

And you pair that along with, this isn't just a defense that gets to rest.

They're out there 95% of the game because the offense is so terrible.

And so it's just amazing what's been going on.

We talked about the crossroads.

I am still under the belief Iowa is at a crossroads moving forward after the end of the season.

So we'll see kind of how that plays out.

But Chip, you are a Husker fan.

You are a cycle and alum.

You're used to the drama.

Help me get through this because I'm not used to this kind of stuff.

I don't think anyone can get used to this.

I mean, anything you're complaining about with injuries, I'm sure Nebraska can just about double it.

You know, starting quarterback hurt, two, running back, the first and second string running backs hurt, four out of five wide receivers hurt.

They've had linebackers, they've had cornerbacks in and out

with

injuries throughout the season.

It's just been the case of the walking wounded there.

And Ruel has made it pretty clear.

He said, in his year as a coach, he's never

ever seen anything like when Nebraska's gone through.

And we're

not the only one.

And I'm almost beginning to wonder if there's something about this.

You know, some people talk about the field turf, and maybe that's got something to do with it.

Maybe it's the training, maybe it's their the regiment of getting exercise and everything.

Wisconsin's even gone through a little bit.

I mean, they've been hurt.

They lost their starting quarterback for a while.

A lot of teams have gone through

this.

And for some reason, you just got to wonder, is this a COVID residue?

Or is it just something that's just going on with the Big Ten West and it's the truly the black and blue division of the NCAA?

Wow, that's a really great take, Chip Reedman.

Really, really excellent take.

Tim Grover, I think Scott and Chip really are onto something, having tracked the Husker program a little bit because of my lovely and gracious bride who is a Husker fan.

They've just, the Huskers have just been pounded with injuries, and talk about a snake bit team.

They lost yet.

Two other one-score games back-to-back with Michigan State, and then, who was it the other week, Chip?

Just a week ago.

Yeah, Maryland, good grief.

I'm listening to that game.

on the radio, and the Huskers put together a 92-yard drive late in the game from their own three-yard line with their third-string quarterback, Chubba Purdy.

I thought for sure they were going to score.

On third down, he throws a pick at the end zone on third and goal at the five, and they lose on a field goal.

Tim Grover, how can the Huskers be this snake bit?

They now have an NCAA record

for most one, one score losses in the history of college football.

I think what we're looking at, I'm sitting here looking at my collection of second place trophies.

And I think they come a long way in just the first year under

Matt Ruhl.

Yeah, I do too.

I do too.

Yeah.

And

it's just like for the Iowa program.

Yeah.

So we don't, you know,

that our chances in the big 10 championship game aren't good, but I'd rather go there than not.

I think too much as a society, we forget that it's always better to be the Diamondbacks than the Cubs this year.

Or to be in second place.

Second place isn't necessarily the first loser.

That term got counted in auto racing, which yeah, it really is.

If you end up second place, the money is a huge difference.

But as far as opportunity in all of Nebraska, Iowa State, Drake, Iowa, Iowa and Nebraska kids have great programs here for opportunities for them.

And it might not mean we're Ohio State or Alabama, but I still think we're doing pretty good.

Well, that's a wonderful setup and let's go to some kind of the trajectories of things.

First of all, we're gonna do just a quick basketball men's and women's and then Tim, I'm gonna let you lead our fight now too.

Let's not forget the magnificent, boy, we're literally on between I-380 and the old Lincoln Highway there.

It's wrestler row.

on the globe there in Iowa and Dan Gable country.

Tim, what were you watching here just the other day on going back to 1986 and some Hawkeye legacy?

Yeah, Dolph had Gable and Jim Gibbons on a hot talk this week, and they were having to get together for reunion of the 1986 number one Iowa versus number two Iowa State dual meat.

and they are in reunion of that and that was, it's been, it was interesting to see both of them talking about that.

Believe

it or not, guess who was right there in the thick of things in Iowa City in 1986.

Yours truly, Tim Grover.

Struggling through law school, but also struggling to make every Iowa athletic event that I possibly could.

Those were wonderful days and it pains me to say,

Holy moly that was well over a quarter century.

I mean well over a third of a century ago well over a third of a century ago Actually close to four decades

ago I mean I couldn't even recognize Gibbons They had some of him wrestling because Gable was coach in that then

Wow,

and I could not recognize that was actually Jim Gibbons, but I mean that was quite a change

And the Iowa State girls, that great cheerleaders, they had those old-fashioned hoop skirt types.

Yeah, and they looked nice.

They really looked

nice.

Those were epic ears, and of course Carver was rocking at those dual meets then.

There's no question about it.

So let's talk a little bit about the men's basketball.

Chip Readman, you're a Creighton guy.

I actually, I know Hawke fans hate to lose a non-conference game, but you know, I thought Iowa looked really good in Omaha.

You know, Chip and I go back and forth and I want Scott in here because we'll get into some real locker room towel snapping.

All right, Reedman, Creighton wins the game, but Shane's already laughing here.

I'm telling you this, you play that game in Iowa City, Iowa wins that game 10 out of 10 times.

And I'm telling you, if that game was played in March, Creighton doesn't make 15 out of 17 field goals in the second half.

They'll end up looking more like the Iowa women did against K-State.

They'll have an off night in March.

I was really encouraged about Iowa's performance there in Omaha.

What say you, Chia Breedman and then Scotty?

Well, you're setting me up for a lot of argument in that conversation.

10 for 10 in Iowa City, I don't think that's true.

Maybe I'll say 50-50, but Creighton does have some phenomenal players.

You have to admit what they've got there with Trail Alexander and some of the other players.

They've got a phenomenal team.

As Iowa has some very good players too, Cricky was just...

That kid was just lights out.

I'm just really surprised McDermott didn't try and do something to stop him earlier because the first half was, I mean, it finished in a tie the first half.

That's about the way the teams played.

They were even.

It was just, you know, one basket after another.

Well, and Chip, Chip, just to digress with a minute left.

If Iowa converts that rebound for a three, it's a two-point game with 54 seconds left.

So that really did go down the wire.

But continue your thread of thought.

There's a lot there.

Keep going, Chip.

Yes, and you're right about that.

I think there was talk about maybe a miss foul at the end that Iowa could have been put at the foul line, which would have tightened it up.

On the other hand, Creighton had a little bit of a stretch there in the second half where the threes were not going.

You put in a couple of those threes, and it's a whole different conversation.

The game would have been looked at a blowout.

It would have been easily well over 10 points.

So basketball is just a fickle game sometimes, just to win you're hot and win you're cold.

Sometimes things go in, and sometimes they don't.

Both teams went through that in the second half.

First half, they didn't.

Everything was going in.

So it was a great exhibition, a great game for both programs.

I think it bodes well for Iowa as far as the rest of the season, because they do have some firepower there.

They did show everyone that they can stand up to anybody in the NCAA world of basketball.

So it's good for them on that.

As far as the march goes, I have to quickly remind you, it seems to me that there was one of these two teams that were just talking about made it to the elite eight last year.

So teams have good years and they have bad years.

And last year was a good year for Creighton.

That's, you know, the voice of reason always Chip Readman, Scott Corey.

He suffers me so well, my little jabs and parrying there.

Well, you know, Scott, I think Chip's right.

I mean, you got about eight bridesmaids at every wedding, don't you?

You know, absolutely.

I always give a lot of credit to a lot of the...

the Nebraska folks because it's hard to have that many different jerseys to support whether they go back and forth from the Husker volleyball to the Husker football.

Then they talk about how great Creighton basketball is.

I mean that's expensive to have that kind of that kind of wardrobe around all the time but at the same time McDermott does have a good team.

It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out for him.

Fran, you know, I'm kind of at the point now where it is what it is with Fran.

As an Iowa supporter and fan, you know, I don't think it's too much to ask that in 24 years that Iowa makes it to the sweet 16 and we just have not done that with with Alford or or Fran McCaffer or even Licklider.

So there's

This program has been snakebitten.

I always maintain as the ghost of Bob Bulls be firing Tom Davis in 1999, last week, 16 year.

But on the upside, he does have a lot of exciting freshman and sophomores that are playing.

Council Bluffs own Josh Dix.

I think he's going to be an up and comer, so keep an eye on him.

But at the same time, I'm looking at the big 10 right now.

I'm not really sure who's really in the cat bird seat because Michigan State didn't impress me.

Indiana, no way.

Michigan's a dumpster fire.

I just don't know what's going to happen.

You're hearing the Creighton fight song in the background in tribute to Creighton's win.

We are pulling that up for our folks here.

You know the funny thing is it's the same as the Gonzaga fight song.

Did you guys know that?

Tom Saleen joins

us here.

A voice of Creighton Hoops here on Bluff's Country.

Do you know the words of that fight song?

The white and the blue.

Or as we used to sing, we don't know the words.

No, we

don't know.

We don't.

We

don't.

Tom, you're a Creighton commentator on the other

end of the spectrum.

You've got all Iowa City, Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Eastern Iowa, listening in here on KXEL, the Blowtorch.

What was your take on the game the night?

What do you think that Iowa team?

We're coming from a partisan Creighton guy that, you know, they don't like the Hawkeyes that much, but go for it, Tommy.

It was a great game.

It was an incredibly

high octane up and down running gun kind of game exactly as advertised and It was he was I just I thoroughly enjoyed the game I think Iowa has a stud in Ben Cricky.

He was hitting mid-range after mid-range after mid-range 24 points for the Canadian big man transfer from Valpo was very a very good player in the Missouri Valley But at the end of the day it was Trey Alexander who was the MVP of the game.

I think he had

23 points and he nearly had a triple double like ten rebounds just nine assists one assist away from Three figures in in three stats But uh But yeah, that was that was very fun.

I think Iowa has a bright future ahead of them.

They're pretty young They got guys like like dicks like Harding Freeman.

I think they'll have some good moments here and there of course Sanford and his younger brother price and they're gonna be

They're going to be a tough on the Big Ten this year.

Tom Selene, great sports voice out in western Iowa and eastern Nebraska.

Tom, we love talking about women's sports on this program too.

Tip of the fedora to the Husker women, they

are

just the class of college volleyball.

Yes.

Now the other night, and I was actually glad to get out of our system.

I listened the most the entire game.

I've never seen a colder shooting team than the Iowa women were

last

Thursday night.

Yeah, they, uh, at 1.4 for 17 from the field.

Clark hit a few, but Gabby couldn't hit Hannah Stolke.

Man, she can move that ball from her right hand or a left hand under the basket.

I mean, it's at home, friendly confines before Thanksgiving.

They come off some huge.

rollercoastery, emotional wins.

Is that maybe good to get a nonconference loss out of your system?

Take a little pressure off.

I would say so.

At least, you know, Bluter wasn't, you know, dissing the girls and benching a girl like Mulkey at LSU.

That Iowa team seems to be, they like each other.

They like each other.

They have good chemistry.

Of course, they went to the national title game last year.

They've gone through a lot and

Yeah, if there is a point to lose it's now you want to You you may want to take a lump here and there I mean you don't like them, but they might they're necessary and so Yeah, I think this setback last night to K-State.

It'll it'll only set them up for better things in the future

here with Tom Selene the voice of sports in Western Iowa and Omaha and points

In that Proxima there Tim Grover from the Mississippi River.

You're a Dolf and a podalac guy I want to bring Tommy in here because we do have that we are obviously this broadcast goes to all the big 10 states Tom Wait wait in here.

We were talking about the injury situation Football both for the Husker and the Hawkeye

Football teams just just unbelievable.

I mean, we're almost a mirror of what's happening.

You guys we've lost at Iowa receivers running backs obviously Porter back and it's been Dev saying the same thing has happened to Huskers and even as Chip Riedman pointed out in the to Wisconsin Tim Grover who's on with us has talked about could it be turf could it be a

COVID remnant, but what is going on?

It's just been a catastrophe this year.

Yeah.

First, it started with, uh, like Jeff Sims.

He, he did not have a great performance in, uh, especially in the Colorado game.

And then, uh, then he gets hurt.

I can't remember when he got hurt, but then Heinrich Harbor comes in and he's decent.

I mean, he, I don't think he's as talented.

He hasn't had the natural quarterback talent that Jeff Sims has.

Cause in Sims can, can.

do a little passing, but he's more of a runner.

But, uh, yeah, the injuries, they've really taken a toll on, uh, on both sides and, uh, I don't know what else to say.

Um, Tim Grover, bringing you back in here, Tim.

You were complimentary of rule.

You think he's done a pretty good job this year based on all of the adversity with the injuries and whatnot.

I'm not aware of any transfers.

Have I missed anything that they've had?

A lot of transfers is basically the same team,

isn't it?

Well, he did get some kids to the portal.

But I would say he's done a good job.

I was surprised that they didn't win one between Michigan State and Maryland.

I thought that would cinch.

They're bowling and

that's going to happen that you're going to lose a couple of close games because you're you're turning the entire program around and you're getting close now.

So yeah, I think he's having a great first year.

Scott Corey, I want to talk about the elephant in the room.

Big 10 officiating.

I have not been happy with it.

I don't think Mr. Selene is even happy with it.

And it's funny.

The other night of the

Iowa Creighton basketball game we were warned by our broadcast partner

Coach Patrick J. Knapp, Jr., the Georgetown legend, who's a broadcast, TV broadcaster in his own right there for New Mexico State University.

Scott, when he saw who the officiating team was, he said, uh-oh, Iowa's in trouble.

And friend McCaffrey will probably be booted before the first half.

We have some issues with Big Ten refs, both on the basketball court and on the football field.

Scotty is getting bad when we start to know their names and talk about them by name, Scott.

let's say you Courtney Green isn't it?

Bingo!

Scotty, take it away!

Yeah, I do believe there is across the board officiating issues moving forward, whether it be, you know, O'Day on the football field robbing Iowa two straight years for Courtney Green and his continued war against Fran McCaffer.

I know

people like Valentine and, and, uh, at high tower.

I mean, this the show boating that those guys would do before.

Hey, before Tommy, Celine was born here.

We did know the name of Jim Bain.

Uh, Tom, Jim Bain cost Iowa a major big 10 victory in the Lute Olson era back in the late seventies, early eighties.

And those of us

at Creighton at the time watching on the Iowa Sports Network who saw that game.

A year later or two later, Jim Bain was announced as one of the referees at a Creighton game and all of a sudden about

20 of us guys got up, started booing and heckling the guy and they wonder what the heck we were doing and he looked like he was having PTSD, Scotty, because Jim Bain's name

was known for a short time, wasn't it?

Well, it was.

And I talked about Ed Hightower.

I was at an Iowa State basketball game at Hilton Coliseum.

And this is about, I would say, 2005, 2007 time frame.

And when they announced that Ed Hightower was the official there, I never saw a little old ladies wear an Iowa State Cyclone gear.

swear so much.

Even I mean what he was just a villain number one and it didn't matter whose team it was.

That man just made the entire ball game about him.

But you know Chip Reidman we do have a officiating crisis in this country.

Whether it's beyond you know little league or middle school high school whatever there's a lack of officials especially the state of Iowa and Nebraska doing these high school and middle school games.

But at the same time, the quality is not there.

When the big 10 finds a multi-billion dollar TV media deal with its partners and we keep having the same kind of ineptitude out there, whether it be on the basketball court or on the on the football field, it's unacceptable.

Yeah, chip chip.

Yeah, good chip way in here.

Yeah, I think it makes the next one point, even just going to the youth leagues.

I don't know who would want to be an umpire in youth baseball.

Some of the things, and my kids, I've just never been really a big baseball, especially for kids for various reasons.

But to see the abuse that some of those guys take out there, I don't know why you'd want to do that.

Soccer hasn't been as bad.

I've been involved that.

But I think over the years, it's kind of picked up a little bit.

It's just amazing to me that anyone would want to put themselves out there.

And so the net effect is all the guys that are good are probably walking away or not even interested in it.

So now here we are with at the upper levels, pro and at collegiate level.

And you have this just disaster going on.

I'll take the Nebraska Michigan State game.

There was six, and I know that Iowa's got it.

It's got, I'm sure it could go through it, but there was six penalties that were missed there.

I mean, it was to the point that the announcers on TV were calling out.

They couldn't believe what the calls were, a touchdown that shouldn't have happened, a face mask that was never called.

You just go on and on, and it definitely impacted the game.

Without a doubt, it impacted the game.

It was a one-scored

game.

There's 10 points there in

a couple of

things that were swung because of that.

And

it is a real epidemic in all of sports that this is going on.

I don't know how you get around it though.

If you go back to the kids side, like I said, who's going to want to take the time to develop themselves, so where they go through the high school ranks, and then they can get to the collegiate ranks?

And I'm sorry to say I'm going to put it in there, but then you throw DEI onto it, where it's like basically we don't want any white men doing any of this stuff anymore.

It's just a disaster that's just become self-imposed.

Well, Tommy had a...

Go ahead, Scottie, weigh in and then Tim and then Tommy has something that he's got too.

Scottie, go ahead.

I mentioned the TV multi-billion dollar deal, but we're also talking about the livelihood of these coaches.

One or two games go one way or another and coaches are being fired and multi-million dollar payouts are moving forward.

Jimbo Fisher, baby.

exactly because of the loss and I mean you look at what happened I'm just you're gonna use the Iowa Minnesota game for example if that comes down and for some reason Iowa does not win either one of these games Illinois or Nebraska

I mean, that game was basically stolen from Iowa in a trip to Indianapolis.

Now, we always make the comment, the offense stole that game for 20 years from Iowa because they can't do anything at the same time.

It is, it is not just that.

We're talking a sports is a multi-billion dollar industry right now, Tom.

And we have to get the officiating under control because it's an epidemic like Chip said.

We'll go to Tim and then back to Tom.

Tim, way in here, buddy, from the Mississippi.

Mississippi, Tim.

Well, this is great that you bring up this officially.

A quick story here.

My grandson in Bellevue, Iowa, they had gotten rid of wrestling and the supporter paid to bring it back, paid for the whole program.

My grandson went out as a freshman

and

never wrestled in his entire life.

And the first two years he was getting beat real bad, but he worked real hard and he got to a point.

That is junior and senior years.

He ended up third in the sub-state and got beat by two kids named Kale on the WrestleBat.

Wow.

Which is, they were born in Singlish, you know.

Yeah.

Kale.

So I said to him, and I had a friend who is refraining wrestling.

I said to him, I mean, obviously he learned it from, he learned the Amanda approach to get on that kind of level.

having never wrestled a you or anything i said you'd be a perfect referee and i said it's 300 bucks a night and i could not get him into it whatsoever wow the kid that you know his first match as a freshman he lasted 15 seconds

wow you

know so so you're that's old-fashioned i learned how to do it and the men it was all mental to overcome that yes so and uh

trying to get them interested.

I don't know what it is, but they are not interested in becoming official.

Interesting.

Tom, you had a good recap here to put a little punctuation.

So we were talking about youth sports officiating and then the crisis about there being a lack of people wanting to officiate, not just youth, but really any sports.

Well, one little league, little baseball league in New Jersey, they had an idea.

And I read this a few months ago.

So they implemented a rule at this park where they do their games Where if you are caught cussing out the umpires you have to become an umpire yourself for three games I love it And if you refuse to become an umpire then you are banned from the park until you decide to become one and for three games

Yeah, so you have to put yourself in their shoes.

Remember, these youth officials are unpaid volunteers doing their officiating games of 10, 11, 12-year-old kids.

Folks, this is youth sports.

This isn't the state championship.

It's not the national championship.

It's not the World Series.

They're not gonna remember this game 10 years from now.

You know, guys, I'm just...

I've got a big spot on my face.

Mike Shane, you'll appreciate this in Chip Readman.

Men of a certain age here, but Tom Selene, we're proud of you because 40 years ago, 40.

I was watching your mom as the young anchor on WWT.

She was right out of college, Sue Baggerly.

And 40 years later, I can't believe it, there's this.

Tall, handsome guy with great pipes on radio out here.

Your dad a great attorney in the area.

Tom Selene.

Tom, who do you like on the national scene?

You know, we grew up with, my guy was Kurt Gowdy and great old Jim Zoblin, Bob Brooks.

Some guys were Dick Enberg guys.

Some guys were Al Michaels guys.

Are you a millennial technically or are you Gen Z?

I was born in January of 1997, so I'm literally like right on the edge between millennial and Gen Z. I kind of identify more with...

Millennial so you're the agent my

youngest daughter basically so who who do you like out there sports announcers?

You know nationally locally who are your guys right now?

I've always idolized Gus Johnson.

He is in my opinion the most exciting of the announcers He just he'll just see a bunch of random words as things are going on But I love it

Shane's nodding his head.

Yeah, Shane is nodding his head.

Hey, what about Kevin Harlan the great Kevin Harlan?

Oh, I love him too

On it when I'm driving from KC back to Omaha and I'm catching the Monday night

football

game Sunday night football

game.

They

have him doing sometimes for Westwood.

He's awesome.

He's just so exciting on radio and he's been doing it a long time though.

Scotty, who's your guys?

Well, I know this

is going to make Chip and all the Husker Nation upset, but I always grew up loving Brent Musburger.

line of you are looking live and Brent Busburger had such great games when he was on CBS as well as ABC and ESPN covering the Iowa Hawkeyes.

I've always been partial to him, but the new crop, like you said, Bess Johnson, Kevin Harlan, I really enjoy them, but there's something to be said too about the stoicism of

of summer all and mad and the joke was the guy that you thought was drunk was sober and the guy that you thought was sober was drunk and only uh only summer all could say Montana to right

touchdown.

It was always maybe the greatest play you'd ever see.

It was an 80-yard bob.

That's just how he would announce it.

Yeah, he was

kind of deadpan.

He was the Bob Newhart of announcing.

Reedman, other than Will Stipulate, Lyle Bremser, when I went to Creighton undergrad, I actually, the voice of the Huskers that I listened to it, Mike Shane was probably there at the controls, was Lyle Bremser.

And of course, Kent Pavelka and Gary Saddlemeyer were part of that troika there.

Chip, who are your guys?

Well, you've nailed it with that one.

And everyone's pretty much covered somewhere all I'm mad.

And I think those two guys will be the epic classic voices of NFL football for probably the rest of our lives.

There's one I'm kicking myself.

I cannot remember what his name is.

But if you ever listen to a Nebraska women's volleyball match on the radio,

He hasn't been on for the last couple of shows because of some travel difficulty or something.

But that guy is phenomenal.

John Baylor?

That's

saying during the matches that it just you just leave you wondering is like how much time did he take to spend to come up with these phrases that he comes up for you know for spikes and digs and all this kind of play out there.

He's a phenomenal person.

So I'll just kind of leave it at that for now.

Tim Grovers, I'm looking at Tom Sleen here, thinking of this multi-generational broadcasting.

I was listening to Robbie Brooks the other night do the Iowa Women's Game and finally remembering his dad.

I think Bob Brooks, this is just me talking, was the best radio basketball play-by-play guy.

I can still remember his catchphrase as like, fadeaway jump shot, sensational.

And how he almost stroked out when Iowa was defeated in 1970 with that undefeated Big Ten team, artist Gilmore Jacksonville.

Tipping at the last second to beat Iowa after that perfect run with Miller six pack The devastation in his voice was emblematic for all Iowans.

Who are your guys, Tim?

Well,

I'm looking back and I'm thinking Kurt Coutty.

Oh, I loved him.

I loved him.

Oh, he

was the best Keith Jackson.

Yeah, well Nellie low doggy Of course the great Jim Zawbel

and

Ron Gondes.

Yeah

No, they were great.

Brooks wasn't just... He was an intellectual, too, I thought, didn't he?

Very much so.

Oh, yeah, very, very much so.

Yeah, I think he could be just as comfortable giving a lecture or something there as calling a game.

Absolutely.

I would almost say he's probably the smartest of all the announcers ever.

But my heart is wizzabble, though.

Because he wore it on his sleeve.

He literally would visit his ailing wife at university hospitals the years when I was there.

She was very ill and in the hospital.

He would not leave her bedside except he would walk down the stairs basically into the stadium and do those games with Ed Podlak.

And it was magic with him and Eddie, it was.

I wanted to mention real quick, I think the best one out there today is Jim Nance.

Jim Nance,

very solid.

He's great.

Very

solid.

Old school, old school, but the more modern.

It's not about trying to get in trouble.

It's more trying to be not biased, I guess.

That's what I was saying.

But I think Nance is the best one out there today.

Do you know that one of the first television ball games ever televised going back to the 1930s involving Notre Dame?

that Frank Reynolds from ABC News was the one of the play-by-play announcers for that game.

Little piece of trivia there.

So, Tom, what's your pre... Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chip Readman.

I just want to throw in, just because I did look

up his name, John Baylor.

Yeah, yeah, John Baylor, that's...

Yep.

Yeah, as we start getting into the NCAA championship games and assuming the basketball is there, this is an instance where I would say turn off the sound on the TV and look up...

try and find the broadcast.

for the for the volleyball game and listen to him.

Well,

there's been a

truly entertaining, truly entertaining in the turn of a phrase that he can throw out there during a match.

He used to do Sports Day Mid America with Jim Rose back in the early 90s when I was listening to that here.

John Bailey.

Yes, he did.

And you know, is it that this stuff is just all so great when you look at and there's a lot of local area talent.

Think of Kevin Coogler.

He's gone on and done a lot of stuff nationally here and.

And so there's talent here in these woods.

Tom Selene, maybe you'll be doing national games before.

You've

got the baritone pipes, and that's genetics.

You can't fake baritone, as I tell everybody.

But I got the face for radio and the voice for newsprint.

But you work out on those pipes.

You

like to

do exercises.

How's that work?

You

drink

certain beverages to get the, uh,

I just

drink water.

It just, it just comes naturally and having watched sports for my whole life, it just, everything just comes naturally to me and I'm always, uh, working to get better and improve every single time I'm doing the game.

I'm not really a play by play announcer.

I would, I would love to get there one day, but PA announcing, that's what I've been doing for almost 10 years ever since I was a

a senior in high school at West Side.

Well, I think your mom worked at some of the time that Dave Weber was there and all says you got better hair than Dave Weber and a deeper voice.

So you may go very far young man.

Appreciate it.

I I've been doing mostly baseball.

I've been that's how I got my start.

But I've also done a lot of football, basketball, volleyball, softball, even wrestling.

And I recently added hockey.

to the repertoire

hockey.

Yeah, West Side has a club hockey program and and I've done one of their games so far.

And so, yeah, I'm going to do more this winter.

But yeah, it's it's very fun.

You have to learn how to do boxing, too, if you're a hockey announcer.

Oh,

guys, I would be remiss if I didn't say that growing up.

I thought Howard Cosell was awesome.

Precisely because he was opinionated.

He would wait in the Muhammad Ali and not registering for the draft.

And he would talk about the designated hitter rule.

And he was the guy from whom I found out that John Lennon was murdered watching Monday Night Football in the Creighton dorm room in December of 1980.

I can't believe that has been 43

years ago.

It's just unbelievable to me.

I think I

put out another hit.

Yes.

Oh yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit.

What's so great about America is not only is that a splendid single and of course it is a misnomer.

That's totally Lenin's voice, not doctored.

All they did was they were able to extricate

the piano that was kind of occluding it.

But what was great was Lenin's voice from the late 70s, Harrison's guitar chords from the 90s, and then Paul and Ringo laying in a bass and drums and keyboard.

What's spectacular about that is as great as that a single is, and it is number one.

You know, it is number one.

What's amazing about that is that now other Beatles tribute groups

have put out that song as it would have sounded as the 62 Beatles, as it

would have sounded as

the 67 Beatles.

So there's all these riffs of the same song with a different arrangement based on the years.

What a creative, wonderful country we still have, Tom Saleem.

Absolutely, end up.

Going back to John Lennon, I think what

He was, uh, signing autographs at the time that he was killed.

Yes.

Was it in, uh, Central Park in New York?

Yes, it was.

Yep.

And, uh, the psycho that killed him, he, he wanted to be the last person to ever get his autograph.

So right as, uh, uh, John Lennon signed like maybe a guitar or something.

He just pulled out his gun and shot him.

It was

precisely correct.

Yeah.

It was just

horrific.

And, and what's interesting is if you go to YouTube, there's the, uh,

There's the back channel conversation between Cosel and probably Rune Arledge and the guys there in the booth about should he break the news?

Should they interrupt the show?

How should they play that?

It's just absolutely fascinating.

Scott, a lot of our history is interwoven between sporting events and historical events.

I think the thing that shaped and steered some of my politics.

literally occurred in 1972 when the Arabic terrorists murdered the Israeli athletes in the Olympic Village in 1972.

I was just at the Iowans supporting Israel by partisan event with Democrats and Republicans at Des Moines at our Iowa State Bar Association office.

where I'm a proud member there in good standing.

There with Emeritus Iowa State Senate President Charles Schneider and Tom Henderson.

And it was just an outstanding presentation by a de facto ambassador from Israel.

And I remember those chilling words of Jim McKay, they're gone.

And Jim McKay forever

kind of became America's anchor that night.

It's amazing, Tim Grover, it's amazing the intersection between our politics and our sports, whether we want it that way or not.

Yeah, and you mentioned in that, I'm also thinking about the 68th Mexico Olympics, whereas the Black Panther, so.

And.

On the podium there.

Yeah, and and Jesse Owens with right in front of Hitler Jesse Owens a defiant and showing Hitler that Hitler's theories belong on the cutting room floor

Well, that's the thing about it is nowhere else in in our entire Culture can you get that out in front of people then with sports?

There's there's too many people interested in it

I guess the big question is, are we doing it to promote the truth?

Or are we doing that to promote an agenda?

In recent years, I believe we've been doing it to promote an agenda.

And most of the agenda has money attached to it that we need to have some kind of escape from the regular world with sports.

And I think we've crossed too far into that.

We're promoting gambling too much in sports now.

Yeah, and I think we're starting to see some blowback to that people want old school never gets old and that's why I think people want I think they want our sports back to be an old school

Well, I'll close on I'll close on this Tim Grover.

You live close to Clinton, Iowa a young black American named Slater in Clinton, Iowa his father didn't even want him to play football

in Clinton, Iowa, back at the turn of the 20th century in the 1920s, because the young man couldn't afford a helmet and couldn't even afford shoes.

Duke Slater ended up playing football.

He ended up going to the University of Iowa where he was welcomed.

He went there and one of the last, he was able to get shoes, but one of the last

Division one collegiate players to not wear a helmet.

He played two platoon offense and defense and as I'm sure everybody here knows During the run of the four horsemen and the seven mules under Newt Rockney and his three national championships and those undefeated teams in the 20s That run of teams kind of like Osborne's teams in the 90s that lot they were like 50 and three

The three losses that the Four Horsemen had, two to the Nebraska Cornhuskers, and one to the Iowa Hawkeyes when Duke Slater single-handedly basically stopped the Four Horsemen.

And just a mere 20 years later in 1950, as an elected judge in Chicago,

Judge Dukeslater came back to Clinton, Iowa to congratulate the Lions high school team neighboring school there in a suburb of Clinton of which my father was a co-captain and There's a great picture in the Clint world held with my father shaking the hands of Judge Carter There were 700 Clintonians waiting outside that Eagles club to shake Dukeslater's hand in 1950

Iowans and Nebraskans have always been on the cutting edge of being colorblind and treating everybody with Iowa nice Nebraska nice Tom I think it's something when when I talked to people last night I was at a Crohn's and Colitis event in the state Capitol in the morning and I had a development director say

I lived in 15 different places across the country.

I was an Air Force brat

with

my dad.

And when I grew up, I said, we're moving back here to the Omaha metro area in

the

Iowa area because that is where the greatest people are.

Yes, it doesn't get much nicer than the Midwest, does it?

Yeah, there is an ethos there.

Scotty, what is it?

There's an ethos about the Midwest.

So much that the presidential candidates even feel welcome in

Iowa.

Well, I think it's just kind of in

a lot of ways.

And I mean, this is a compliment.

The time is slower in the Midwest.

People still say please and thank you.

They're still talking to their neighbors.

They're still volunteering.

And we see that throughout the entire country.

But in the Midwest, there's just something about it where you just know everybody and you look out for everybody.

And that's the great thing about being here.

And it kind of goes back to...

You know, the old saying too that Hayden Fry created back in the 1980s, America needs farmers.

And

it's that farm work ethic that I think is just transcended the entire area.

And so grateful to be part here.

Well, this is a great segment.

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Tim Grover with us from the Mississippi River, because we got a balance set out with the Missouri River where we're joined now again with our first among peers, the one, the only, the inimitable, the excellent Dr. Edward J. Fogarty, Ted Fogarty of Omaha.

Welcome back.

to the show, Dr. Fogarty, studio audience on their feet.

Edward F. Fogarty.

Edward F. Fogarty.

Yeah, I feel like Nelson Rockefeller up there saying, I endorse my good friend Richard E. Nixon instead of Richard Milhouse.

Edward F. Francis Fogarty.

And are you junior or the third?

I am the third.

You are the third.

So Edward Francis Fogarty, the third.

and I

bet- My Patriarchy is the Schmidt family of Cass County.

So in the Fogarty family, I am one of the Schmidt heads.

Well, that's good.

That's good.

Shane is laughing.

And of course, I know your father.

He's a great man.

And you know, Doc Fogarty, you're America's doctor winning that CARES grant.

So Doc, I'm going to be controversial and say, and again, I'm undefeated at the ballot box.

So I've got

a good solid constituency behind me.

Doc, I'm gonna say the government at our federal and state levels did everything wrong during COVID.

From remdesivir to ventilators, and that if we'd listened to you instead, we would have saved countless lives.

Prove me wrong.

Prove me wrong.

I can't.

I cannot prove you wrong.

And it's because I listened to you.

What were you telling us to do and what do we need to do now to get our immunity back up?

Talk to us, baby.

Well, there's a whole host of all sorts of naturopathic things that, you know, the world scientific literature is starting to pump out over the last three years that there are all these alternatives as antivirals amongst Mother Nature's good stuff, including curcumin, spirulina, you know, you just do a search on COVID and some of your favorite spices in the kitchen.

You're going to find some interesting stuff, green tea.

And of course, you know, from my Omaha Central mentor and Dr. Albert B. Crumb, Harvard train psychiatrist who is

become the world's leading glutathione expert in the last 20 years with a patent on a glutathione supplement out of Canada that's for pandemics and and all viruses.

It's it's pro immune immune formulation.

You can find it at dbestimmuneport.com and no name nutrition in Omaha.

And this is this is so wonderful to have you on.

So doc, I'm looking at it.

Why did we do remdesvir and why do we do the ventilators?

You were sending

out memos saying that we should have gone the hyperbaric route.

You are one of the world's foremost authorities in hyperbaric therapy.

Can you tell why we went the wrong way and what the way is to get out of this mess in the future?

We went the wrong way absolutely positively because we are in the middle of a racket takeover of America and its government through healthcare.

Tony Fauci being one of the primary racketeering ringleaders and he himself knew in 1991 the glutathione

acid precursors can stop viruses in their tract, including HIV.

And we can treat viruses better than any ventilator on the device side of medicine with a hyperbaric chamber.

Explain hyperbarics for some new listeners.

Explain hyperbarics in lay language here.

A hyperbaric chamber is simply a large acrylic tube that you lay down inside of.

It's clear.

around it's kind of like being in an MRI scanner except there's nothing in front of your eyes you can see out you can watch TV

and there's more room there's more room

yes and you know the clinical grade chambers around the country like at UNMC they're they're basically simply pressurizing that with a hundred percent oxygen and it's going to twice the pressure that we are you know in in the Midwest here and you double the pressure and so every breath you take not only it contains five times more

oxygen than air, but it also contains twice as many oxygen molecules packed together.

So you have 10 times more oxygen going into every breath.

And NYU did the phase one safety trial on hyperbaric for COVID back in April of 2020 and proved in NYU Medicine and in New York City Medicine that we could see 80% of people with severe COVID versus every other ICU doc in New York City was losing 80% of their patients.

And this was phenomenal.

that came out in April of 2020, May of 2020, they stopped this study early because of how incredible the effect was on moderate to severe COVID.

And then Tony Fauci and his minions and a bunch of others.

basically suppressed the message.

This team, it took them six months to get this published.

They had to go to multiple journals to get this published.

Here with Dr. Ted Fogarty, Edward Francis Fogarty III, Tim Grover, a question or comment for Dr. Fogarty.

I would just

like to mention that Dr. Fargherty is absolutely right.

They are trying to take our government over through healthcare and it's advancing rapidly in Europe.

Just this week, the European Parliament just passed a law that everybody has to have a digital ID by the year 2026.

This digital ID will contain your picture, your fingerprints, and some kind of a copy of your retina scan.

And this is all going

through one health and through basically your public health department.

And Brian O'Shea, Naomi Wolfe's husband, who's a special investigator, former CIA, has put together this.

He unveiled the intel on this, that it's basically a CCP operation.

Indeed, I have to agree completely.

There are unfortunate racket and political ties to China, including right through

the whole healthcare complex with some of the funding for this whole Wuhan virus creation appears to have come from the United States taxpayer through Tony Fauci and guided there by Bill Gates.

And you know, Rand Paul is all over that in Congress.

We have treason happening.

every single day in the country.

Here with Dr. Ted Forty.

Doc, you've all been vindicated.

You won a federal CARES grant.

The truth cannot be suppressed.

That's true.

And I went, I

went, I went kind of back channel through the North Dakota ag community.

Ag Commissioner of North Dakota and created a formulation based on Albert Frum's Proimmune Immune Formulation 200, again at TheBestImmuneSupport.com, wherein I took his formulation and spiked it with Spiralina, which is Mother Nature's fastest replicating antiviral

single-celled organism on the planet.

So if you do PubMed search, any physicians in the Midwest listening to me that want to cross check what I'm saying, do a PubMed search on spiraling and COVID.

And you're going to pull up a bunch of articles now, now published, even though I was onto this before any of these articles were published.

showing that spirulina has activity against COVID and other viruses.

And I also spiked it with beetroot powder, which is a vascular wellness agent that helps increase nitric oxide production inside of our endothelium.

And so that opens up the blood vessels in the midst of people who are suffering from active COVID.

And there's some very prominent families across the Midwest in law, medicine, and corporate infrastructure that have used the purple powder to keep themselves

out of the hospital in the midst of

You know coming down with a pretty significant COVID infection starting you know back in 2021

so dr. Fogarty What this is a huge signal.

This is 50,000 clear channel watts.

So you this is going into Ohio Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Minnesota Where where can people go to do this?

A supplementation for their immune system.

Well the best

The bestimmunesupport.com is Dr. Albert B. Crump's distributor out in Rhinebeck, New York, and he has been paving, walking the pavement and streets of Iowa and Nebraska, Colorado and Illinois and Ohio, between basically Denver and New York City to get proimmune immune formulation 200 put into every natural health food kind of store.

multiple chains and you know getting it out into the public because it's truly this product is a national treasure actually.

I was in a very important meeting at the Harvard Club with Dr. Fromm, with Dr. Paul Hart, from LSU, the guru of hyperbarics in American academics, and a number of other individuals on March 6th of 2020.

We were gaming up the Manhattan Project to stop this pandemic and all pandemics, and it literally, it's very simple from a certain perspective.

There's no pandemic virus that can tolerate high oxygen.

containing environment intracellularly.

And part of that is also because increased oxygen at the intracellular level provokes the cell to create hand over fist tons and tons of intracellular glutathione, which also shuts down viral replication.

And that's what Tony Fauci proved in 1991.

He proved with three other researchers, with our tax dollars, that high intracellular glutathione levels will stop the enzyme that's common to all RNA viruses called reverse transcriptase.

it stops the actions of reverse transcriptase.

And so the higher level you have is intracellular glutathione, the lower levels you have intracellular viral replication cycles.

And Stanford University then in 1996 and 1997 did human clinical trials on that concept and proved an increased quality of life and decreased death rate in HIV patients who were supplemented with just 1.2 grams of NAC per day.

And this is a tiny

tiny dose, but you know, 3.2 grams of Dr. Crumb's formulation at thebestimmunesupport.com per day keeps the doctor away.

Guys, you've been listening to Dr. Edward Francis Fogarty III.

Thanks, Dr. Fogarty.

We'll talk to you again next week.

Thank you and God bless, John.

Oh, this brings me back every time I hear this song.

The original Hames Homes television commercials from a half century ago.

And I'm so delighted to have with me again today.

Part of that multi-generational family enterprise of bringing safe, lovely, affordable homes to Eastern Iowans.

Mr. Curtis Hames joins us again here

for our business report today.

Studio audience on their feet.

Welcome to the show again, Curtis.

Good morning John and thank you studio

audience.

Yes, you're popular here and Curtis, the whole enterprise there is popular.

You guys are great civic servants.

You have been recognized in the community for your work including that

wonderful food pantry that you have.

Everything from derecho to economic crises.

You guys are there with food for the folks.

We are.

We were called to really do our share here for people.

We had a real big fork in the road with that derecho incident and realized there was a lot of need for a lot of our residents and other people here locally.

And we really wanted to, uh, we were called to take care of our neighbors, um, in that, in that small way that we knew how.

John Jacobson here on KXEL, the blow torch, caroming all over Iowa here, particularly Eastern Iowa at 1540 AM, 100.5 FM.

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ClearWatt broadcast 80 years here on KXEL out of Waterloo, Seed Rapids.

Curtis, I remember your wonderful grandfather.

Then I know his children, one of whom is your parentage, and you continue this tradition.

To me, it reflects stability, roots, and character.

What's it like to be past the baton, the torch, so to speak, to this new generation of Hameses?

I couldn't be more proud to honor the commitment that my grandpa Kurt and my granny Norma made to Eastern Iowa.

My father Troy, my aunt Cynthia and Barbara, I couldn't be more proud of what they've accomplished and what an honor and a privilege it is for me and the other people in my generation to be able to join, come in and try to honor that legacy.

and even do something as as arrogant to think that we could improve upon it.

Oh you you are the real deal Curtis Ames and I know your father Troy he is a great man and what I what I love about you guys and I will say this to anybody who will listen and we do have a lot of great listeners here I thank you for your listenership

This is a family with a Christian worldview.

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You have safe neighborhoods.

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You do vetting to make sure that

Good and decent folks are moving into your communities.

You've got dog parks.

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the terminology we like to use John is called planned community and we don't want to overwhelm people with too many rules or Bog them down with too many requests for maintenance, but we do want

clean, safe, tidy community, people maintaining their homes, having standards for their neighbors.

It doesn't take a lot of work to make sure that everyone maintains top dollar for real sale value if we ever ended up losing anybody.

These are beautiful communities.

I drive through there frequently when I go back to see my mom in the Cedar Rapids area.

Curtis,

What's the best way to reach you in person by phone and on the web?

Because you've got some tremendous financing opportunities.

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You can do one stop shop and despite high interest rates, it's more competitive than ever in manufactured homes.

We couldn't be more excited about this piece of it.

Our

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Guys, a studio

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It's just a digit away from my mom's home phone number that she still has.

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