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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Nov 6, 2023
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you know John it is been an exciting and tumultuous week in Iowa City and around the
globe.
You know, you talked about the Star Trek theme on a Saturday morning, but Hawkeye fans started out the week earlier this week with a different soundtrack, Mike Chain.
Yes, we're going to go that Hawkeye fight song right now.
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Yeah, Scotty.
Yes, Scottie,
good call on that.
Good job,
Mike Shane.
It was a quite a week at the football complex there in Iowa City.
Interim Athletic Director backed up by President Barb Wilson.
Beth Getz informed the fairances that Brian will not be returning at the end of the season.
He will continue as offensive coordinator through the bowl game.
Matt Garst, it's been quite a week in Iowa City.
I've been talking to a lot of folks out there.
It has been.
something that we knew had to happen.
I feel terrible that it's happened in public the way it has.
Just the raw emotion of Kurt Ferenc in that press conference followed up by Beth gets his comments and then on Wednesday during the coach's show with Gary Dolphin, Kurt reiterated that he wants to come back.
I don't know, Matt Garst, there's something going on.
I'm still not convinced that Kirk is going to be returning next season due to multiple factors, including his age.
It's been quite a week in Iowa City, Matt Garst.
You know, you have a different perspective.
I am very close to the program and some of the actors, and so I will admit my judgment is clouded right now, but it is something that I never thought I'd see in Iowa City where you had a president athletic and an athletic director, interim athletic director laying down the law to Curt Ferns, the legend.
himself.
It was quite a, quite a scene.
I don't think even Hollywood could have came up with some of the scripting in the last couple of days.
Well, this has been absolutely bizarre in a couple of different ways here.
Obviously, in
I'm a psycho fan, so I'm not as close to this as you are, Scott.
This just needed to happen a couple of years ago.
And
I frankly blame that on Gary Barda.
I don't think he had the stones to do what needed to be done for those.
for the benefit of the football team and frankly the athletic department.
If anybody was in that position and they were that bad at their job, they would have been shown the door a long time ago if their last name wasn't Sharon.
I think that's pretty obvious.
I give a lot of kudos to Beth Getz for doing what needed to be done there.
She's on the fast track.
If she's not named the full-time athletic director, I'm personally going to be shocked by that.
I think she's
shown that she has the leadership ability and decision-making ability to be effective in that role.
You brought up Kurt and his public statement that has got to have something to do
being able to sit down with the family on Thanksgiving and be able to look everybody in the eye.
When he came out and said, I was just shocked that this happened at this time, that if anybody
could be shocked and they're in that position.
I find that very hard to believe.
So I think that's just what a lip service to make Brian feel a little better.
You know, you bring up a lot of great points.
I think a lot of fandom in Iowa City would echo a lot of your sentiments.
Beth Getz has basically asserted herself with the backing of President Wilson as well as some of the major donors to actually fulfill the role as an athletic director at the University of Iowa, unlike the puppet himself, the empty suit Gary Barda.
And I find it very interesting too.
About two weeks ago in the local college paper there, the Daily Iowa one, and
President Wilson said, I think it's time for Beth to formally apply to be the athletic director.
That tells me right then and there, you know, when I've heard some conversations in the background, she is on the fast track to be the new athletic director at Iowa.
But you hit the nail on the head.
This was something that I don't think a lot of people in Iowa City were accustomed to seeing because, you know, we all joked in the program that Kurt Farrance runs the university.
Well, now it's very clear that President Wilson and Beth get
have reasserted themselves and basically reasserted the administration who's in charge of the the entire university John.
You know Scott being with the old guy here on
the program there is a slight precedent for this but Hawkeye fans have not seen it for 50 years talking about the beginning of the show going back to some 50 year retros.
Forst Eveshevsky was Iowa Athletic Director
in the late 60s after retiring in 1961 after two mythical national titles, 57 and 59.
It wasn't a bull championship series back in the days, but in both those years, Iowa had finished the season number one in at least one of the polls.
And so Evershevsky was a legend.
Ironically, Scott, we had this
Socialist socialism the Big Ten goes back a long ways you could not repeat as Big Ten champion with a Rose Bowl trip So Iowa would have gone to three consecutive Rose Bowls During that time and literally had to sit out a year even though they had basically an undefeated year because that silly Big Ten rule Eva Shevsky I'll be strolled the world like a Colossus as the ad
And in the late 60s, he fired coach Ray Nagel, who had a five and five season.
Eddie Pollack and Larry Lawrence were in the backfield those years.
And those years were difficult years.
And in Iowa, of course, Jerry Burns was the immediate successor to Eva Shevsky, who went on to have a phenomenal assistant coach and head coaching record in the National Football League for Vince Lombardi at the Packers.
Then the Vikings even stepped in and late in his career to helm the Vikings.
And Nagel took over after Jerry Burns.
Nagel had some problems with the just the zeitgeist at the time, Scott.
There was a lot of unrest in Iowa City in the late 60s.
At one point, there were people calling for the National Guard to be called in because the campus unrest during the Vietnam War.
And at what point in time you had
uh... an actual boycott of the football team by all the black athletes and nagel uh... rain nagel did you know uh... really a fine job is fine is going to be done during those times there with uh... by that time woody haze was firmly in scots and shem becker was starting to build his legendary program evashevsky pulled the trigger after two uh... after two five and five seasons well actually
After that first five and five season pulled the trigger on Ray Nagel, Nagel was fired.
The fan base backed Ray Nagel and Eveshevsky was known to be heavy-handed and a strong personality in an incredibly unprecedented maneuver.
Ray Nagel was reinstated as head coach in Forrest Eveshevsky
was fired as athletic director.
Yeah, that's very interesting how that all played out back in those days.
And it's very interesting too, Matt.
I like to get your thoughts on this because Wednesday or excuse me, Monday afternoon during the exhibition game, Gary Dolphin was talking with Bobby Hansen and he read the statement from Beth Getz announcing that Brian Farrance was no longer going to be returning to Iowa City next year.
But Gary Dolphin has a very unique relationship with the Farrances because Gary Bartos suspended Gary
Gary Dolphin during some comments that were very Manute during in the Rutgers game and Kurt Ferenc then basically turned around and named Gary Dolphin the Hawkeye of the Year.
So, you know, he's been very loyal to the Ferenc's but
During this statement, Gary Dolphin says Beth Getz did what she had to do.
And I just found that just shocking that even Gary Dolphin was willing to go that far out on a limb to talk about how things needed to be righted in Iowa, especially in that football program.
You know, John and Matt, we are all involved in public relations and things just don't happen on the vacuum, especially at the University of Iowa, especially.
And before the announcement was basically made that Brian was no longer going to be returning to the University of Iowa, the official Twitter account or X account of the University of Iowa posted this at 11 a.m.
That same morning and it's on there.
It's on their account yet today and it's a picture of the old Capitol building with the flags flying and there's a hawk in the background and the caption reads a hawk finds its way home with a golden heart symbol.
That tells me there's something going on out there and I asked one of my sources You know I said listen friend you know I've been around this a long time Things just don't happen in a vacuum and the response was very cryptic to me and that person said The plan is the plan and the plan is in motion
That tells me that we are still on the precipice of this being the last year of the Ference regime in Iowa And as you said Matt build the statue I'll be the first one to say build the statue to Kurt Ference what he's done to the program for 25 years But there's something going on and I think president Wilson and president and interim athletic director future athletic director Beth Kiatz are going to change this football program
And I think we're going to be very, very surprised who they pick.
That's going to be the most interesting part of this whole thing if that indeed comes to fruition and Perk steps down or, you know, resigns at the end of the year, which obviously is just our best guess at this point.
I guess I really haven't given it a lot of thought about who would be logical candidates to replace him.
There's obviously there's a lot of good coaches out there and there would be a lot of interest in that job.
Particularly given the resources at the Big Ten Conference Command at this point in time.
Matt, my fantasy is to go to Youngstown and I'm not talking about Bo Planey.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Wow.
It's going to be real interesting to see.
Ultimately, who expresses interest or who
the
administration at Iowa has interest
in,
I think they could possibly benefit from getting somebody that's a little bit younger that maybe can relate to the players a little bit better.
Particularly given some of the issues that they had a few years ago with the Strength and Conditioning Coach and those allegations of racial discrimination within the program, it seems like that they would be able to recruit.
better still players.
If they had somebody that was a little younger, that could could relate better to those folks.
That's just my thing.
You know, John, we talk about possibly moving forward, but we'd also be remiss saying this is happening and Kirk is tied for the Big 10 West.
He's six and two right now.
He wins out.
He's going to Indianapolis.
But Scott, they could lose out when they've got the 133rd ranked offense and I literally started getting the the Vapors last night looking at the 2024 schedule.
Scott, with this offense, I can't see more than four wins on that schedule.
These are pulverizing teams with the former, the Urschweil Pacific 12 teams that are on that schedule and the way some of our lighter West opponents have dropped off.
I can't get to six wins on that 2024 schedule with this team this year.
Again, 133rd out of 133rd on
offense.
You know, that brings up a great point.
And I think we're right now, we're kind of in a limbo, so to speak, because we know that Brian is not going to be there.
We don't know the future of Kirk yet.
Do you see them possibly losing out?
This is my fear.
I have no confidence going into Wrigley today.
And at the same time, you got to think too, the audience not only is the donors, the fan base, as well as the players.
but there's also two very important position coaches in that team, Phil Parker and LaVar Woods.
And I mean, friends of mine were sending me still shots of Parker during the Minnesota game.
He wanted to murder everybody on that sideline.
He was so
mad.
He gets the Nobel Peace Prize.
Don't you think we should nominate him formally?
Absolutely.
for failure to be
violent when incentivized to be violent.
Absolutely.
And so you look at all these things that are moving forward.
Now, if Kirk decides to come back next year, you know, there's a lot of talk that he needs to reach out to former Wisconsin head coach, Paul Chris, who did a very good job.
And I think what really galls people, Matt, is that a couple of weeks ago on the Big Ten Network, Urban Meyer, national championship winning coach at Florida and Ohio State, he said, Phil Parker's defense is good enough to win a national
He just needs some help on the offense and I think that's where we're at right now Kirk has shown the ability over the 25 years to remake himself when he's forced to Maybe Beth gets forced him to remake himself one last time and bring in like a Paul Chris But at the same time Kirk has to open up a little bit and allow the offense to I don't know run a couple You know big play chunk chunk plays like Hayden Fry used to do or even let's say a Bob Stoops did it out in Oklahoma
The biggest problem that they've got is any offensive firepower that they've had has transferred out.
They do not have, aside from their tight end, and obviously they've had some injury problems, but at this point in the season, every team is going to have injury problems.
You can't really blame it on that, although that doesn't help.
They don't have any real depth as far as receiver goes in my mind.
They don't
have a quarterback that can push the ball down the field right now.
They need to, they need to retool their offense and frankly look at their recruiting and say, how do we get these guys in here and have make sure they stick around?
Uh, I think getting rid of Brian Farrell and his antiquated way of, you know, that three yards, well, actually it's not even three yards.
He's caught it off.
It's more like a yard and clouded up in his case.
Uh,
but.
Humble's here and there and in an interception and you know, that's that's kind of how that it's
all ran Scott Scott here's the thing I just see Kirk is being I'll use the word stubborn I remember the fry era and Hayden went through three phases the first ten years from 79 to 89
He kept that loyal coaching staff intact.
I'm talking about the eight guys that got division one head coaching jobs after that 10 year mark.
They all kind of left after that great run of chasing the national title with Chuck Long, the classic and Hartley years.
Then you saw Alvarez and Snyder and those guys peel off and get their big jobs.
Hayden rebuilt that team and got them to another Rose Bowl.
rebuilding that coaching staff and tragically if John O'Hara hadn't died very suddenly the heart attack on that cruise after coming in just doing a masterful job on offense probably would have even gone on to some greater glory there it was instructed to me that Hayden was able to reinvent himself the second part of his 20 year tenure with an entirely new staff that got back to that Rose Bowl
He did that though when he was about 60 not when he was 68 and I just don't see Kirk Going outside of his comfort zone enough to do it needs to be done.
I think Garcy spot on the problem right now is recruiting and a coach that's not is into NIL and portals and You don't have the offensive recruit firepower and now you've got these schedules from hell
And there's a lot of revenue.
Season ticket sales, concessions, merchandise.
This can't afford to be an 8-14 year in, year out that goes to a 4-18 year in, year out.
I lived my entire youth with losing Iowa football teams from 61 to 79, actually from 61 to 81.
I was in college before I saw Iowa with a winning season.
We don't want a 20-year drought.
And I know our Husker fans listening in are getting the shakes just thinking about how quickly that membrane of success can evaporate.
And in the post-Osborne era, how that has just been monstrous for them the last 10 years.
And even the first 10 years wasn't that great for them.
You know, you talk about what's going on in Iowa City right now.
Matt and then we had the news this week also that the great the general himself Bobby Knight had passed away and I was kind of watching some of the Remarks and some of the old interviews of Bobby Knight at Indiana and for me, you know a person is 45 years old Bobby Knight was the face of the Big 10 especially Big 10 basketball for the 80s and 90s it was him Lou Olson or Lou Henson Katie Jean Katie
yeah,
yeah, Judd Heathcote and Tom Davis, but the reason I bring that up is that you know
Bobby Knight had a huge falling out with University President at Indiana.
That's an
understatement.
You know, and I'm not saying
that Kirk's falling out is the same, but at the same time.
You know Bobby Knight for 20 years said I'm never going back to that that bleep and hole, you know and
things
like that But at the end, you know, I believe it was a 2017 Bobby Knight or excuse me 2020
Bobby 20 that was very poignant scene if you can pull that up on video
Yep, and he did return in the fan outpouring and I think that's where we're at in a lot of ways with Kurt He is the living legend The days of Kurt Fair and Hayden Fry Joe paternal Tom Osborne those days are over.
You're never gonna have a head
football coach at a program more than 10 to 15 years moving forward.
And so I think it's very interesting that Iowa program of stability is now facing instability in the future moving forward.
Yeah, Matt Garce, I like your take as this is the moment crossing the Rubicon.
You know, I was literally thinking last night.
about Bobby Knight.
He was my favorite basketball coach ever.
I loved him for such a variety of reasons.
But I was thinking of Scott Corey last night.
I thought, does Scott even remember Bobby Knight?
Oh, sure he did, because Scott's 45.
He would have been in college hay days when Knight was touring in Indiana there.
And one thing I loved about Bob Knight, of course, his coaching tree.
I mean, there's that great picture of him and a young Mike Shyshevsky coach K. Bob Knight, his players are very loyal to him.
to this day when you saw that 2020 reunion, I think he came back to be with those players as much as anything, the hugs there with his athletes and Matt Garst.
The other thing, Bobby Knight, I loved about him.
When we started having trouble competing against the Soviets in basketball, especially when they were cheating us, e.g.
the 1972 Munich Olympic Games,
Coach Knight went in there and took care of things at the Pan Am Games and in the the US Olympics in 84 and Other than probably Puerto Rico, he would have been welcome to coach anywhere in the United States Matt Garsh But it's sad to see his demise.
I truly feel like we're seeing The extinguishing now of that era the last vestiges are now leaving us
100% agree with your comments there, John.
Bob Knight was an institution he represented, as UPI said earlier.
The Big Ten Conference from a basketball standpoint obviously was iconic.
Coach Bob Knight was also an iconic speaker when he hit the podium after games because he didn't hold anything back.
Scott alluded to it earlier.
In 2017, he was on the Dan Patrick show and actually heard they replayed this yesterday.
Dan Patrick was asking him, you know, would you want to go back
to
the University to a game, you know, meet with your national championship team and get some closure?
And he said, Pat, no, he absolutely did not want to do that.
He brought up the administration and he said,
Dan Patrick said, well, I don't think there's many of those people around anywhere.
I hope they're all dead.
Yeah, only Bobby Knight could say something like that, and everybody know he was serious, but at the same time laugh hysterically that somebody said
it.
Well, Matt, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Bobby Knight say that he wished to be buried upside down?
He
did.
He did.
That's another iconic press conference that he has given.
No.
No.
Oh, those
players love him.
They love him.
They give him credit.
It's like Lombardi's players giving Vince credit.
Absolutely.
And there's something to be said for that.
And certainly there's some satisfaction as a coach when your players respect you and they've got your back.
That's probably the most important thing.
Sad the way that that whole thing turned out for him at the end of the day.
Although he did go to Texas Tech and had a good second act run there.
I think he redeemed himself in many ways there, Matt, at Texas Tech with that close to 10-year run there.
And then his son took over after that.
Yes, he did.
He had a good run there at Texas Tech.
Kind of rehabbed his... Yeah.
Yes.
And had some successful teams there.
Basically proving, hey, it wasn't just because I was at Indiana.
It's because I know what I'm doing and that's the hallmark of a good coach is put me in a different situation or a difficult situation and I can still make it work.
That tells me that you are on top of your game and you know what you're doing.
He needs to be respected for that.
You know, John and Matt, I like to get your thoughts on this because we're touching about it.
And I'm not saying Kurt's going to retire today after the end of the Northwestern game.
But we all know, you know, father time is undefeated.
He will catch up at some point to Kirk, you know, and God bless Kirk for doing everything that he's done, especially Mary with the hospital and everything.
But at some point.
Everybody kind of hits that wall and there seems to be a lot of comments out there, especially on social media.
They're talking about Ference fatigue and things like that.
At some point, there's a Bobby Knight or Kurt Ference or even a Matt Campbell.
Do they run out of the mojo, so to speak, and it's time to move on?
Absolutely.
That happens with everybody in any profession at some point or another.
Kurt's been there for 25 years, I think.
Yes.
Tenured coach
and 34 34 if you count his tenure when I was in law school there as as an assistant 34 years he kept saying that the press or the other night
at some point you just You just get tired and you know Even given the success that they've had This is this bright, you know Brian getting Whacked or fired or let go or told he's resigning take that however you want
that is going to take an emotional toll on the parents' family.
And I'm sure it bugs that.
So I think that's a major part of this.
And then to a certain degree, I don't think that the parents' family is real wild about the NIL, pay-for-play part of things to be set the impression I've got, now there's certainly some players in.
But you look at guys like Jay Wright at Bill Noeva as an example for basketball.
He just got the point.
He said, I don't,
I don't want to
deal with this.
I'm done.
And he was at the top of the heat.
Villanova had just come off a national championship appearance and he just said, this is a, this is a completely new realm or a completely different way of doing things.
I don't like it.
I'm done.
I think that could come into play here as well.
You know, as we talk about how things are changing in Iowa City, there was breaking news that now that Brian Farrance has been let go by interim athletic director, Beth Getz, that the rumors are swirling around Ames that Matt Campbell is now headed to
Iowa City as the offensive
coordinator.
It's on social media because I put it there, Matt.
Is there anything true to that?
Well, any job that comes up Matt Campbell at the top of the list, I'm surprised he's not running for president at this point.
So, yeah, there's...
It's going to be interesting to see if some of these Big Ten jobs open up.
Michigan.
Michigan.
Well, let's be, before we take a little tour of there, hey, Matt and Scott, something was jarring to me and listening to that entire press conference from Kirk earlier in the week, and they had Lyskow and Dr. Munn and Halas, all the usual guys at Opinion in there, and somebody asked Kurt about the connection with his son specifically, and he said,
Well, obviously we're we're related by blood, but he goes I have relationships with all of my Coaches he seemed to very much downplay The fact that this was his son almost taking I thought a hyper stoic I mean he went in there almost as a Roman stoic.
Well, yes, we're related by blood by relationships with all my coaches That doesn't seem to be the real Kirk ferrants to me.
This is the guy that cries
at the drop of a hat after a great victory or or an emotional locker room scene and he was so stoic is that because he'd had 48 hours to bite his lip and stiffen it up because that to me is is not the Kirk Farrance that that I know he's such an emotional guy I was not foreseeing that response why have relationships with all my coaches yes we are related by blood but
Almost dismissive of the biological bond Scott.
What was your read on that or Matt?
I that kind of perplexed me was he just playing the role of the Roman stoic at that point
I think so and I think also played into the reason why
Beth Gatz was put in this position because then former athletic director Gary Barda basically skirted nepotism laws in the state of Iowa, and that's how Brian became offensive coordinator reporting to the athletic director.
And that's why he went to Gatz eventually making this decision.
So I think Kurt
was very, uh, cognizant of the issue around the nepotism.
Uh, we all joked in Iowa city that, uh, yeah, yeah, he might report to Kirk or he might, uh, Brian might report to, uh, to Gary Barda, but Gary Barda reports to Kirk on this situation.
So I think it's one of those things, but at the same time, I think at the end of the day, Kurt knows there's a new sheriff in town and her name is Beth Gatz.
Yeah, I think that's right You know it all goes back.
I I do find political analogies to these things Scotty and You know, I I always remember Enoch Powell and his great quote all political lives unless they are cut off in midstream at a happy juncture and in failure Because that is the nature of politics
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Scotty, mine got cut off midstream at a happy juncture because I got redistricted into oblivion by carving my district up into five pieces and also my bank said it's either us or them and we pay a lot more than they do.
And and I had come to the happy conclusion of mine But I remember the late great coach red McManus who left on top at at Creighton back in the Glorious the 60s when he was playing John Wooden and Luke Karnasekka and Ralph Miller and beating them and Red always said if they're chasing you out of town with tar and feathers is best to
pick up the drum major's hat and the baton and get the front of the line and make it look like they're giving you a parade in your honor.
No,
absolutely.
And actually, the only one that was really disappointed and you not returning the legislature was Mrs. Jacobson.
She was really happy to
have you gone for five days a week.
That's why she's in Kansas.
But Mac arses, you talk about everything that's going on there.
You know, we're wrapping up the segment here.
Where does Iowa go from here?
You have a different perspective.
You look at it from a different view.
vantage point.
Do you think Kirk returns for season 26?
I
think we're going to know that real quick after that Nebraska game.
I think at a minimum he'll coach the bowl game.
Here's the thing with his press conference and the comments that he made, particularly regarding Brian and I have relationships with all my coaches.
Yeah,
I'm
interested in your take on that, Matt.
Big time.
Talk to me about
that.
spend a ton of time together.
Position coaches, the head coach, obviously offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special team.
These guys spend more time with each other than they do with their own family.
Everybody that's on this radio program right now has hired and fired people before.
And maybe you have to let somebody go that you really like personally.
I kind of look at
at Kirk's comments and I think that even if it was somebody else and not Brian that had to get let go, I think that would bother him to a certain degree.
I look at as an example or a parallel, Matt Campbell a year ago had to fire Tom Manning and he got rid of a couple other guys that had been longtime co-workers and employees of his and that bothered him.
I suspect that it would bother Kirk Barron the same way.
making it doubly difficult if it's your own son, that's the one getting let go.
But there is a human element to all this and people, and I'm guilty as everybody, you know, get on social media and people can be pretty cruel.
But there is a human element here of sports as well, where you develop relationships and sometimes those, that stuff doesn't work out.
And that makes it hard on everybody, particularly the head coach that's in charge of the whole program.
Well, Matt, well, we'll get out here.
I'll just say this, you know, you and Scott are still in the prime of your lives, the prime of your careers.
There is something to be said.
Scott alluded to it earlier.
Kirk, 68 years old, I'm in my 63rd year.
It's very liberating for me to be able to say on air today that I am in my last year of banking.
I'm not going to retire from life.
I've still got two law licenses and have some things I'd really like to do with those.
But
I'm in my very last year of banking, Scotty.
I will be done in somewhere in 2024.
I've told my guys this.
And there's something very liberating about that.
I mean, we don't identify our self-worth based on our job, not completely at least.
I know for males, a lot of us do that, but there are second acts in American life.
And I'm just grateful that, you know,
There is a time, a time for everything and it's very liberating for me to know that I'm
basically in the victory lap mode now
and the torch is passed to you guys.
You know, absolutely, John.
And that's the great thing about being here on KXEL 1540 AM with Jeff Stein's programs is that he allows us to talk about these important issues moving forward.
And there's going to be a lot of important issues, not only in the University of Iowa, the state of Iowa, that we have presidential election coming up.
And so all I would say to Hawkeye Nation is buckle up because the next couple of months are going to be total maltrust.
But don't forget we have that one saving grace that we're all rallying to.
and that's Caitlyn Clark and Lisa Bluter's basketball team.
So it's gonna be a fun year still at Iowa City.
You know, I'm delighted.
You know, who would have thought that when I was chairing the Des Moines Diocese Catholic Schools Board that that little girl playing junior high basketball for St.
Teresa's over there is our one and only Caitlyn Clark.
You never know the impact.
of your community around our athletes in Iowa and there are just so many you know a guy like Matt Garce we've got in the show what a dad that guy is he is coaching every single one of his kids he's truly a dedicated father and this is again this part of the Iowa Ethos Scott Corey you're there at your stepson's all of his cross-country meets you've never missed
You've never missed an iota of his activities.
You've been such a wonderful influence on his life.
Well, thank you sometimes According to some of the things that he says his mom thinks I have somewhat of a bad influence
I
probably taught him some language and some just things that he probably doesn't need to be saying
colorful metaphors that's vocabulary expansion the the the vulgar the popular vulgar I tell my wife that's important exactly, but
you know Matt Garza's a I was often remind myself of the great quote from Mike Leach and he said
He was asked why he doesn't golf.
He says, I don't need practice swearing.
You
know,
that's kind of how I approach life.
And I think you kind of get what I'm saying, Matt.
Yeah, you've gotten up on me with the language.
I hate to say that.
I'm not proud of that.
But yeah, it is interesting, you know, what John brought up and what you bring up the impact that you do have on your own children.
And then if you're involved in any kind of coaching or mentoring or anything else, the impact that you can have on other kids as well.
And obviously,
You're doing it for the right reasons.
You hope that you have a positive impact.
And that goes all the way up to the college.
Heck, even the pro level.
Some people become father figures for these guys and gals.
And it's a special bond there that everybody shares.
But at the end of the day, you just hope that.
You're you're a positive influence on people and not a negative one
And please don't take it personally when I show up to heckle you when you're out there managing your son's baseball team because that for me That's just kind of a good family real rivalry right there So when you start here to me heckle from the third baseline just kind of brush it off.
Oh I'm pretty good at that.
I got pretty thick skin
Hey, I got the face to get kicked out of a game Matt.
I was in an intramural crate game once
between the different fraternities and our guys are on the field and I'm cheering for them and this poor ump is getting every F bomb and every possible abusive curse word thrown at him and I yell out
Jarhead and the guy stops him.
Who said that?
Who called me a Jarhead?
You're right here.
So you never know what they're, you never know what they're going for, you know, what can do that.
But we'll have Matt back on next week because we're going to talk about that Hawkeye fan behind home plate who was the hero of the night.
See, everything revolves around Iowa City, Scotty.
I will just say not all heroes wear capes,
but they wear Hawkeye
t-shirts.
And we'll talk about sign stealing.
And I'm
I'm not talking about the political signed stealing variety.
We'll have Matt Garst on next week.
Studio audience on their feet from Matt Garst on America's original Blowtorch, 50,000 watt clear channel.
North America and South America's only 1540 AM.
Scott, I knew Curtis Haymes.
the founder of Hame's Homes.
Back from the early 1970s, his great family were patients of my father's and mother's dental practice there.
And of course, they originally were located right up there on the boundaries between Miriam and Cedar Rapids and what a magnificent family.
And now the legacy perduers Scott Corey with Curtis Hame's
The fourth, the director and manager of sales at Hames Homes, our studio audience welcoming Curtis back to the show.
Kurt Hames, how are you, sir?
Great to be with you on this beautiful, crisp Saturday morning.
Curtis, your family has stayed on top of the homes industry for half a century.
The manufactured homes,
You folks have provided for thousands of families over the years.
Safe, affordable, beautiful homes.
And I'm so glad that the legacy continues.
I work for a bank that is a multi-generational family bank.
And the next generation, they're about your age, is now getting ensconced in senior leadership.
It's a bulwark for me when I go out.
and market our bank that we're not going anywhere.
We're not selling.
We're here.
This is a family enterprise and you can boast of the same, can't you?
I can.
And I, man, what a great opportunity I've been given.
And if I can continue and even do something as arrogant as think as I could improve upon what Graham and grandpa started all those years ago, man, what a great, great opportunity they've provided me.
and I'm so so proud to continue that legacy on.
Here with Curtis Haymes from Haymes Homes and that was the the bell cow lead from the segment today Scott is one stop shopping for the purchase is so daunting and buying a home you're working with appraisers inspectors realtors
insurance people, financing.
It's a daunting, sometimes intimidating and overwhelming task.
Curtis, you make it very easy for folks to get into home.
Absolutely.
There's the two of us here in sales.
We keep it very simple, real easy.
Myself and my coworker, who's actually my brother-in-law, Clint, will be your point of contact.
We keep it very simple.
We work on a salary.
There's no pressuring you into a home that maybe we've had for a long time.
We want to pair the best people with the best homes, with the best financing options, no pressure, no appraisers, no challenging trips to the bank, no real estate agents.
Very, very simple one-stop shopping.
Now Curtis, you know, as we get into the winter months, we also talk about the safety features too.
You talked about the snow removal, but you also have your own security teams that kind of patrol the area to make sure that people are safe when they're out doing their morning walks with the dog or even when the kids are coming to and from school.
Yes, absolutely.
Great point.
We have 24 hour on-call on-site management.
We have six different managers.
They take turns on on-call and an emergency.
precaution.
One of them at least is available 24 hours a day.
We have our two storm shelters in each community for total storm shelters for our 900 home sites.
We also have a great relationship with the Cedar Rapids Police Department.
We have them out here.
We visit with them in the very, very unlikely event that there's an incident out here.
We have a great, great rapport with them as well.
Yeah, your community rapport for a half century has been magnificent built by your family and all their contributions.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's a very Christian worldview.
It's a worldview of honest, fair dealing and nothing more important of a vocation on this earth than providing people, families with hearth and home safe, affordably.
and with great security.
Curtis, I've been out to your beautiful neighborhoods.
How do others either call, surf the web, or come out and see you guys in person?
How do they get there?
We're excited about all of the above.
The phone number is 319-377-4863.
Real, real easy website.
It's just the name of our company.
Hames Holmes.
you find us at www.hameshomes.com and if you'd just like to stop in or visit we have our open house format seven days a week we'd love to see anybody anytime with any kind of questions we love love lookers we love people who want to get educated please please stop by call look at our web anytime
And the spelling of that is H-A-M-E-S-H-O-M-E-S-HAMESHOMES.COM Studio audience on their feet for Curtis Hames, our maiden solo voyage with Curtis.
Curtis, we love you.
We're going to come back next week for more.
I love it.
Curtis Haymes the fourth ladies and gentlemen the great guy that you will visit with their Haymes Holmes The Jacobson group the Jacobson group John Jacobson here with Scott Corey in the captain's chair and Guys, this is America's North America's the Western Hemisphere's original 50,000 watt Claire Channel AM
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They're alive and kicking let's bring on the theme music for our curative doctors alive and
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Dr. Edward Fogarty, Ted Fogarty recently inducted the Omaha Central High Hall of Fame.
I was there.
It was awesome.
Along with the honorable erstwhile
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Doc, welcome back to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sean.
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What say you today?
We've been covering a lot of news.
Ted Fogarty.
Boy, a lot in the news again this week, vindicating that you guys were right at every step to the whole COVID pandemic.
Fauci was wrong.
Fogarty, at all, were right.
Take it away, Ted.
Hey, man, John.
And I've been wrestling with a lot of big projects and concepts and coming to you from the great antenna from KXDL.
Hits all the big 10 states.
I just wanted to dive into a little bit of history for our listeners.
We've got Joe Casarino on the line here who's who's who's populating the the Great Plains with Proimmune Immune Formulation 200 at deepestimmunesupport.com.
This is one of the most phenomenal formulas that my mentor, Dr. Albert B. Crumb, put together his lifelong career has been spent saving lives in the psychiatry practice and then creating this incredible natural intelligence of our own immune system that uses these building blocks for the formation of glutathione inside.
ourselves to save ourselves.
And you know, I've had this blessed opportunity.
to incorporate this into a federal CARES Act grant, and it's been all over the Dakotas, and now we're trying to get this across from Nebraska into Illinois.
And I just want to highlight, Dr. Crum had some incredible experiences as a high school wrestler at Omaha Central, and actually wrested with Joe Scarpello.
Some of the older audience members may recognize Joe Scarpello, the great wrestler from the University of Iowa, who
It was 117 and one in his college career.
And the guy was literally the best athlete in the college ranks of the 1940s and early 1950s.
Part
of Hawkeye Law or a credible
person.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so with that, you know, Albert has had pioneered for us eight
Truly, a new methodology of medicine is called precursor medicine.
So when we as physicians, Dr. Hartstaff and I are putting together this incredible play from out of Albert Crumb's playbook to save lives in Iowa and save lives all across the Midwest, we need good partners.
And that's where Joe Castorino comes in.
I met Joe.
I met Joe at your event.
I've got Joe's stuff in my very bedroom for my immune support.
Doc.
Absolutely.
So I'm going to hand the football off to Joe here and let him tell the story of where he's been and what he's been doing in order to get Dr. Albert comes from you in formulation 200 all across the playing state.
And he's just done this incredible gear shifting of being the actual for healing and health and wellness.
And this is truly
This is a patented antiviral.
It came out at the beginning of the pandemic.
And Dr. Albert Crum has literally written the code to stop all pandemics.
I mean, this is one of the great, amazing plays in Mother Nature's Medicine.
It's the safest, most natural thing to ever do.
I've never had any kind of drug interaction.
And this is actually patented to go
into people who are on the inside viral people.
So take it away,
Joe.
Studio audience, a warm welcome.
Studio audience for Joe Casarino.
Joe, welcome to the program.
Good morning, John.
What a pleasure to be here with you today and share some of my journey.
You know, I recognize fully the prom union, what Dr. Crum has to offer the public.
to mitigate toxins and build the immune system, unlike anything else.
And I'm doing this work, it's a lot of work, but I'm trying to help the, bring this promune
to,
oh pharmacies and help the market, so that the public has a place to purchase this locally and talk to people.
You know, I sell it on my website, thebestmeandsupport.com, as you know, that's where people buy it.
But I want people to be able to walk into their local pharmacy or the health food store and talk to their supplement manager and speak to people so they could understand it better.
So my journey started when I first visited Dr. David Hartsuch, former state senator in his medical practice in Davenport, Iowa.
And I had a lovely visit with David.
And we were discussing the promune and how he recommended to his patients.
I noticed next door,
happens to be right in his plaza, a health food store called Fresh Time Supermarket.
I said, jeez, look at this.
Fresh Time Supermarket, 56 locations, stuff that could be recommended in patients to buy the protein right here.
So they have it, they pick up the same date.
So I went in, saw the managers and they gave me the information and I literally drove hours out of my way
to meet the CEO of Fresh Time Supermarket, brought her a jar of promune, left her some scientific data, mailed her another six packs.
We are in discussions to bring promune into Fresh Time markets, thanks to David Hotsuch and my meeting with him.
Then when I was in Omaha, Nebraska, visiting Dr. Ted for his induction, I see we have cold pharmacy in Omaha.
Yes.
I put two and two together and I say,
Dr. Crumb is from Omaha.
He was at Central High School.
We have Coles Pharmacy right down the road.
Every day I go in to see Mr. Cole.
Every day with new information.
Another job for Immune.
A matter of fact, Dr. Crumb had just called Mr. Cole yesterday to inform him that remind him that I was there.
I left the information and we would very much love to sell the Promune and Coles Pharmacy.
So we're in discussions with that.
I also walked into a place called No Name Nutrition and met Josh, the owner of No Name Nutrition in Omaha.
I walk in the door with a jar of promune.
Josh says to me, I'll take 12 jars for each location.
I
said, I'm going to explain what it does yet.
He goes, no need to.
I've been listening to Dr. Ted Pogli on the radio for years.
This is the best formula everyone should be on.
I'm going to put it on my front counter and recommend it to everyone.
Long story short,
I gave him the 12 jobs each location that day.
I get back to New York a week later.
He calls me back calls me up.
I need another dozen each location.
Awesome.
Awesome.
This
is
medicine man pharmacy in Ohio in Omaha, Nebraska.
Same thing.
I'm Joe Castrino.
I own the best new support.com.
We're a distribution company for Dr. Crumb's prom.
You I'll bring it into all my stores.
I want to, I want to recommend that I know exactly what it does.
Everyone should be on the formula.
So in brief, what, what we are trying to do and why I am on the road, you know, I've been on the road for two months.
I know you are the road warrior, Joe Castorino.
Oh, oh, it's a lot of work because you walk in, no one's there.
They're working remotely.
Yeah.
You're all too
busy.
You
have to go back over
and over
and
over.
But, but I'm doing it.
It's a lot of hard work.
I'm doing it.
Why, John?
because I fully understand.
I've been working with Dr. Crump for six years.
He's explained the science to me.
We know, you know what promenade does.
Ted knows.
Dr. Dave Park such knows.
They recommend it to everybody.
Why?
Because we are all full of toxins.
It's epidemic.
The toxins inside ourselves are leading to the illnesses and I am on a mission like Dr. Ted Fogarty is on a mission to help people comprehend
reduce the toxins, mitigate the oxidative stress.
Bingo!
Bingo!
Those diseases don't come into you because your immune system is so strong and we have a mission and a message to get out that here it is, Dr. Albert B. Crumb discovered a scientific breakthrough that is one of the most important scientific breakthroughs I've heard since penicillin.
Why?
Because it's reducing and mitigating the oxidative stress within the cells.
and the toxins within the cell to keep the cell in the strongest state as nature intended.
Exactly.
Pray God.
Exactly.
So in the meantime, if they don't know where to get it, they can purchase it at thebestmeetsupport.com.
But we prefer they go to their local pharmacy, talk to their pharmacist, understand it, and start optimizing their health.
Joe Casarino, that is absolutely great.
And Dr. David Hartz is bringing you in here for the
final word.
This was my condemnation of Fauciism, was that nothing proactive at all, no early, intradictive treatment.
It was, get terribly ill, go on remdesivir, get your kidneys shut down maybe, and then death by ventilator.
You've taken along with your colleagues, these heroic doctors that had the best save record in Iowa, ironically being persecuted.
by the Iowa Board of Medicine for basically being right, unbelievable as that is, you are waging an heroic legal battle to right that wrong, Dr. Hartzich, and I praise you for it.
Really great being on, John, and I gotta tell you that Dr. Fogarty and I are always reviewing the medical literature.
We're always exchanging ideas about how we're to treat disease, and really, really appreciate that, and also,
I appreciate Joe Castorino regarding the heroic work that he's doing trying to get the message out.
I'm looking right now at an article that was done in 2012 and one in a clinical science magazine said glutamine and glutathione and ICU admission in relation to outcome.
And it shows that glutamine levels are an independent risk factor for mortality.
you hear admitted to an ICU.
And, you know, I think one thing that Dr. Fogel and I have always been talking about is how basically the endpoint of all disease is oxidative stress.
And the best antioxidant is glutathione.
These are, these, and pro-immune while we talk about it, that's a trade name, but actually it's precursors for glutathione.
so that that is brought intracellularly, so to produce glutathione intracellularly, and help with the health and maintaining the health of cells and preventing oxidative stress on cellular destruction.
And that's what I think is so important for people to know.
And I think what Dr. Stolger and I talk a lot about are these interventions like hyperbaric therapy or
a promune infrared light therapy, et cetera, which has a pleotropic effect, meaning that it has lots of positive health effects.
Well, that's pretty great, Dr. Hartz, just for those of you listening, of course, to this signal, we've got loyal listeners in Cedar Falls, Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Dubuque, Clinton, Quad Cities, but with this signal, the only 1540
in the Western Hemisphere, America's first 50,000 clear channel station.
This signal going to Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, and hopefully extending out further west.
What would you say again, Joe Casarino?
How do they find this online to order it?
So they've got it in their house just like the Jacobsons do.
Oh, thank you.
That's a very good point.
For now, if they don't know where to buy it in their local pharmacy or health food store, they can buy it at thebestimmunesupport.com, which is a distribution hub I created for Dr. Crumb because he requested me to.
But one more thing I'd like to say, John, is the great people listening should go to their local pharmacy and ask them, do you have it?
Did you bring it in?
Because the pharmacy needs to introduce it to all of the community, not just one person.
Like everyone is saying, all the doctors are saying, and Dr. David Hotsuch is brilliant.
You know, I met these doctors, Hotsuch and Fogarty.
I have to tell you with all the doctors I work with, I've never met two more brilliant physicians.
Oh, they are.
They figured out COVID and saved all their patients.
It was incredible.
So the listeners in the audience should go to their local pharmacy and ask for it.
But in the meantime, thebestinyoursupport.com.
And guys, use the word the, T-H-E, the.
bestimmunesupport.com.
And Dr. Ted, you've got a final word for us.
John, I just wanted to reiterate how important this is for our government, even.
There's a good portion of the North Dakota legislature that is taking total new formulation 200 every day.
And your colleagues from Iowa legislature need to start taking this stuff every day because the stresses of what they're doing, the good ones especially, need to have this on board to help them debate the right things for the Iowa citizenry.
That's a great comment, Dr. Ted Fogarty.
I use it, guys.
You should use it too.
God bless all three of you great heroes in this battle for beating pandemics.
And these guys know how to do it proactively.
Our studio audience on their feet.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, MD, Edward J. Fogarty from Omaha Joe Casarino, who is bringing this product to pharmacies near you and online at thebestimmunesupport.com.
My hero, the honorable Dr. David Hartsuch, fighting the good fight in the courts of Iowa, going after the nefarious actions of the Iowa Board of Medicine.
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