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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Sep 25, 2023
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It sure is.
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We are the Hawkeye-Cawkeye.
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to choose the leader of the free world, and Scott, I'll go further.
We are the home base of, I'm gonna say it, the Iowa Hawkeyes, our America's team.
In basketball, the greatest college athlete, so named with every major award possible, Caitlin Clark, the Nile Kinnick, female of the 21st century, along with the football team where that wave to the kids at Children's Hospital there,
Hospital that literally overlooks Kinnick Stadium with those large glass windows where the children ailing as they are come during the home games to watch the game and at the end of the first quarter that crowd waves to them, prays for them, wishes them good luck, including even opposition.
That has now been named the greatest tradition in college football.
a young tradition but it is so captivated the imagination of the American people that that has now been dubbed by media is the number one tradition in college football so we're where it is here grab a seat this is awesome we're also on that 100.5 FM breathing with both lungs let's get ready to roll Scotty
You know, John, you bring up a great point about being America's team.
And, you know, also you talk about being in the heartland and things along those lines.
One of the most important things we talk about in Iowa right now is the farmers and everything that's going on.
And don't forget that during the 1980 farm crisis, the great Hayden Fry put up that amazing decal to highlight the struggles of the rural America.
A-N-F, America needs farmers.
And so that was just one of the great tributes.
But this is such a
great point.
This isn't just something that has started with Iowa tradition.
And Iowa even goes back early on with the integration of college football.
Yes.
We had great judge, Duke Slater on the field, playing both ways for the Hawks.
And, you know, this goes back to the, when Newt Rock me and the Four Horsemen were at Notre Dame, Judge,
Duke Slater was running havoc over them.
And so this tradition is absolutely a marvelous
one.
It sure is, but I will say though, you know, I've been fortunate in the last couple years to go to a game mechanic and very fortunate with a couple friends to actually go on the Duke Slater field during the end of the first quarter and do the wave with the players.
That's just one of those moving things.
John you've known me a long time and I can be as hard and as John Dutton some days But when I'm on that field waving to those kids even I get a little misty eyed and gets a little dusty there on the field It's just a great tradition and to see the players as well as the the stadium and one of the great things about it is next Saturday is a game under the lights at
of Iowa will be taking on Michigan State.
It'll be the first time Iowa's been on NBC in a long, long time.
And to have the new programs highlight this tradition is just amazing.
It is, it is Scotty.
Well, let's not forget our other Big Ten neighbors.
Let's give a welcome to our recurring guest, Chip Reedman.
He's an Iowa State alum and excellent commentator.
You know, you gotta be smart to be an engineer and say what you want, Scott Corey.
I know we have a rivalry with Iowa State, but I've got a loyalty, again, toward Hawkeye Genius, that Iowa State Engineering College.
is one that I rate it higher than MIT and Cal Poly Tech.
Go to Iowa State for engineering, my friend.
You know, absolutely.
And our good friend, Chip Reidman, joins us here on the line on KXEL 1540.
Chip.
You've been kind of in the kind of purgatory, so to speak, as a fandom right now.
You went to Iowa State.
Iowa State struggled last week against Ohio.
Matt Campbell almost got into a fight.
It had to be restrained from another Iowa State fan, but you're also a Husker as well.
And the trials and tribulations in Husker Nation the last 15 years, I don't bring you great angst, but it brings John and I some great joy at the same time.
Well, one thing for sure, it's never boring when you're rooting for these two teams at this point.
But I like to be optimistic and think that things will improve.
And this upcoming game against Oklahoma State has got some interesting twists to it.
Much to my surprise, I don't know if you've noticed this, but Iowa State is favored by three, three and a half points for this game.
Something I sure you I did not
expect
to have happen.
Chip, what is it?
Iowa State seemingly can never get a call.
I have been watching these guys, Scotty, for decades.
They've never gotten a call in a game ever.
That field goal, I think, was good.
It was.
It was.
I was stunned.
How do you
not replay?
How do you not take a look at a replay on a field?
I think it was one of those rules that said that it could not be because it went over the crossbar, excuse me, over the upright.
That counts.
That count.
That is good from every
rule I've read.
It was not reviewable, but at the same time, Chip, there is something.
They talk about Hilton Magic in the wintertime during the basketball season, but there is something.
There's some voodoo.
around that football program over the last 25 years.
As John alluded to, you just don't get the calls, but it was amazing.
And we also talk about too, there was a lot, there was an illness going through the players.
A lot of them had to leave the game, a lot of upset stomachs and things along those lines and kind of a flu that was going through the team.
So it was a struggle, but
I have to say that debacle against a Mac team, I think there was a lot of sickness in all of Cyclone Nation as well.
Well, I have to say that there's a lot of sickness probably in the state of Iowa when it comes to any offensive pitfall.
And I'm not trying to do a slam.
I mean, this is old news, you know, that we've talked about in Iowa.
But yeah, they've definitely got some offensive problems.
This is going to be an interesting game.
Oklahoma State is actually struggling.
They're two and one and they just lost.
to an FBS team.
So they're not exactly doing really well now, but I don't know what Gundy's got going on down there, but they've taken a little bit of a dip this year.
Well Chip, you talk about offenses.
I want to see what high power USC and UCLA
can do in Iowa City in November in a snowstorm, Scotty.
That's when I want to see how well those high-powered offenses
do.
forward to seeing how this game ends with Matt Campbell on the supposed hot seat.
He had to be restrained by his players and other coaches because a fan yelled at him.
It was like
a
Seinfeld.
was a
Seinfeld
with the
magic Lugie yelling at him.
Makes me kind of think that old Matt Campbell should have maybe taken some of them jobs the last two years when he had the opportunity to get out of Ames because the the star is is fading fast.
Scott.
You talk about opportunity, but the great Barbara Hames Bryant had the opportunity to be at Kinnick Stadium again last Saturday.
She's loyal at our Hawkeye home games.
And of course, I always, so she's going to give us a live report here of what it was like at Kinnick.
And Scott, here's what I think.
Why tailgate at Kinnick?
if you can lodge permanently just up the road at one of those beautiful homes there in the housing communities that she's got.
She's de facto mayor of about 3,000 great Iowans and they're an 18 minute drive to the to Kinnock and to Carver.
So that already is a plus for buying one of those, you know, wonderful, beautiful, spacious
and safe manufactured homes that Barbara has.
And she's with us today.
Barbara, the crowd on their feet, just like they were after Hawkeye Touchdown Saturday.
Welcome back to the show.
John, always good to talk to you.
Thank you for that applause.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
You know, Barbara, we talk about this being Caitlyn Clark's world, and we're just living in it.
You know, she is a superstar of Iowa, but you are a superstar in your own right, too.
Talk to us a little bit about some of the opportunities that folks have moving in to your homes in the next couple months, because as we get closer and closer, you know, the fall equinoxes hitting on Friday.
Winter is just right around the corner, but there's a lot of great homes there at your facilities.
We have beautiful single and double sectional homes.
new and used homes.
Used homes have been completely refurbished using our 96-point checklist so that they are redone top to bottom, back to back, inside and out.
And our new homes, we have some gorgeous new homes that are up to 2,400 square feet and they come with a new one-year new home warranty on them.
Now they are going to be open during the parade of homes
in Cedar Rapids the first two weekends in October.
So if you'd like to come and see one of our beautiful double-sectional homes on a cul-de-sac, it's the first weekend and second weekend in October.
Barbara, what amazes me is the bang for the buck that you get for the square footage.
You talked about 2,000 square feet and yet what's amazing is
Those home property taxes really are incredibly affordable.
That's right, John.
The home cost about half what a site built home cost for square foot to build because there's built indoors in a climate controlled environment, assembly style.
And while that doesn't sound very glamorous, it really does reduce the cost of the home.
There's a lot less waste because all the products are built
All the products are purchased in advance the cabinets and the appliances It's the original green housing.
There's very little waste in a manufactured home
Now Barbara talk to us a little bit too because what if you want to make a purchase?
You have very reasonable interest rates right now.
It's a good time to lock those in if you're in the market
Yes, they have gone up a little bit with the interest rates going up, but they're very competitive with site built homes
Barbara
I think it's incredible if you look and do any sort of analysis of a home maybe like your 6420 Luke Street Southwest home versus a pre-owned average real estate.
You basically can get a $310,000 regular home value for
a new mobile manufactured home and basically paid the same amount for one of those beautiful homes that you've got that have literally tremendous square footage and it's so cost effective to do this.
Again, if you're paying average real estate taxes, you're paying $6,000 a year.
Your example, it's $435 a year for the home.
property taxes and your water in sewer, storm water, garbage is less expensive by a factor of three.
The square footage is actually greater in the manufactured home at 2176 square feet versus that $310,000 home at 1908 square feet by every measure.
You are just you have an astonishing economic value that you're bringing to the table in your communities there
We sure do and we love telling people about that especially first-time home buyers Because you read in the newspaper about how first-time home buyers are being priced out of the market But we've got the numbers to prove it our homes cost half as much for the same amount of square feet for the same quality and
And the day to day, year to year living expenses are less when you factor in a home site rent versus property taxes on a site built home.
There's no way people would not love that these beautiful homes provide them everything they want.
They're lovely inside and they're really affordable.
You know, Barbara, this was amazing because Clay and Buck were talking about this the other day on the show that
Literally, people are in a tough vice right now because with interest rates going up in a regular home right now, you can't get as many square feet as you could before because the interest rates now are taking up maybe $500 of a mortgage payment where maybe it was $100 before or maybe even more than that.
And so what people had to do to buy a new house with higher interest rates is get a smaller square footprint so that they have to actually buy a less value house in order to be able to compensate for the interest rate increase, which added together is the total house payment.
And there is a way around that.
There is a way to double that square footage by getting a manufactured home at Haymes.
And to me, that's the answer right now in this economic situation.
I couldn't agree more.
Not only is it a great value for the money, we have beautiful, planned, managed neighborhoods.
When you're moving into a Hames community, oh, please forgive me, but you're not moving into a trailer park.
You're moving into a planned, managed, lovely, well-maintained neighborhood.
So not only are the homes more affordable,
The neighborhood is something that most people just love.
I really encourage people to come and see for themselves.
They're welcome to go through Grandview or Summit View on the southwest side of town.
We're located at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest.
That's Wilson Avenue, West Post Road.
Or visit us online at hameshomes.com, h-a-m-e-s h-o-m-e-s dot com.
The lovely and gracious Barbara Hames Bryant,
the crowd on their feet again.
And we also want to just give her the bugle trumpet salute as well.
Barbara Haynes Bryant, you rocked it again.
Prediction for the Iowa game tonight, the whiteout game at Happy Valley.
Will we be happy coming out of there?
It's going to be a tough game.
That's a tough crowd.
That is a tough game and a tough crowd at a tough location, but I think the hot guys will pull it off.
That's awesome, Barbara.
Guys, Barbara Hames Bryant.
She'll rejoin us again next week.
Barbara, great to hear your voice.
Be safe
and God bless.
Barbara Hames Bryant, ladies and gentlemen.
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Let's march to those trenches Scotty.
Here we go.
Well as we alluded to Chip and John we have a big big game tonight in Happy Valley It is a wide out game the Iowa Hawkeyes are going in at 630 our time on CBS the first time since the 1990s the Iowa Hawkeyes will be on CBS but interesting enough
Just a few years ago in 2009, it was a similar situation.
An undefeated Iowa going in to take on an undefeated, highly ranked Penn State in a September showdown.
It's gonna be rainy.
It was rainy in 2009, and we had an epic clash.
Let's go ahead and pick it up in the fourth quarter.
And right at the moment, Penn State is winning.
But they are on their 44 yard line getting ready to punt.
Go ahead and play that clip there, Mike Shane.
Blocked.
Scooped up.
This is gonna be a Hawkeye touchdown.
This is Claybourne.
The big defensive end.
Blocks it and takes it in.
And the Hawkeyes take the lead.
A stunning development here in Happy Valley.
You know chip reading that was in 2009 and that catapulted Iowa into an orange bull season and there's something about Iowa and Penn State Everybody talks about Michigan and Ohio State at the end of the year But since the last 20 to 30 years Iowa and Penn State have become major rivals.
Oh, they love each other Yeah, yeah, let's not forget a few years ago.
What happened in Iowa City?
A lot of fake injuries and but this is being on the old Notre
Dame trick.
Yes the
old Notre Dame boy
and Chip I know you're a little bit more impartial observer I like to get your thoughts on how big of a game this is not only for Penn State But for their current fairances, Iowa Hawkeyes
Well, I agree with you a hundred percent.
It's definitely a big game for both programs probably more for Iowa State because Excuse me, Iowa because Penn State is rated higher but
I'm not real optimistic that I was going to be able to pull out the UPS at this time.
Penn State does seem to be all over the mission.
They haven't been as good as they have been in the past the last couple of years.
And I think they're pretty hungry in that program.
So I'm just kind of leaning towards the Penn State.
I think the points are about 14 points.
And that's about what I was going to guess is like 24 to 10.
It might be lower on Penn State's scoring side.
But I just don't see Iowa scoring anything more than 10 points in this game.
I don't think McNamara has really panned out as well as people had hoped at the beginning of the season.
He struggled last week, even though they had a good win, where they have only like a hundred and some like three yards passing or something.
Yeah, five for 13 and then but on the flip side they had basically 300 yards and rushing They the fourth the fourth and fifth string running backs for running wild through there, but John a low scoring game in Terrible conditions and pin we
won six to four and took a safety
nice the way I was just bringing that up In 2004 we could have won six to two we I don't know that we had to take that safety well, and it was ironic is that Kirk had just
buried his dad early in the week.
And that it was a defensive slug fast and Kirk had so much contempt for Penn State's offense as well as so much praise for his defense.
He took a safety to prove a point.
And there's something about that rivalry moving forward.
And John, I was able to get a phone call this morning from a block number.
I picked it up.
I said, hello.
And you go low and behold, it was Kurt Ferris and he had a little update for
us.
All right, let's listen.
Only here exclusively on KXEL.
Jeff Stein can't even get these kind of scoops, guys.
We're playing with a relentless effort out there.
We're physical, we're tough, and we play team football.
All right, that's the formula.
Everybody together.
Let's get our ass going.
Here we go!
John, you talk about Iowa Penn State.
You think about the great matchups in the past.
But there's something going on right now with this team.
The defense is humming.
We're the number three team in defense in the nation.
And we have our weapons.
The puncher for Heisman, Tori Taylor.
There's something going on right now.
I think the sloppy conditions play right into the hands of Kurt Farrance and Phil Parker's defense.
Well, I'll go further, Scott.
I think this is a must win game for Penn State.
It's not a must-win game for Iowa.
Iowa can still win the Big 10 West.
This isn't a way game against the top 10 team.
If Iowa shows well here, they can even use that momentum.
No one in the Big 10 West, I think even Chip, Chip didn't use, say that, and Coach Knapp, when we've had him on, that six and three in conference could actually win the Big 10 West.
It's happened before.
I agree with that 100%.
It's going to be a real struggle out there.
Illinois has not come out of the chute, as well as people thought.
They just got beat by Penn State.
So they're not looking good there.
Wisconsin lost to Washington State, but I may have mentioned before, so I guess you could say the joke is that people are saying that Washington State probably could win the Big Ten West, since Wisconsin was predicted to win it.
So it's not going well on the west side right now.
So it's going to be anybody's game to try and make it.
Minnesota's struggling.
They're not looking that good this year.
It's not as typical teams that these are running up there.
Well, I think you have to do more of an NFL analysis when you look toward the season.
So in the old days, when I was a kid,
There were 10 games.
Eddie Pollack and Larry Lawrence were five and five back-to-back years when I was in early grade school.
10 games.
To win the national title, you had to run the table and go undefeated.
You did.
And the way the conferences were set up, big eight, big 10, basically, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Michigan, Ohio State would roll through those schedules and then need to win impressively in the bowl game for the mythical national championship.
We're at 13 games now, plus playoffs and bowl games.
So it's more like an NFL season now.
You don't have to go 15-0 to win a national title.
It's rare now that you might have one undefeated team left in the four-way playoff.
Remember, Vince Lombardi's final great
fifth NFL title with the Green Bay Packers.
They were nine, four and one in the regular season.
So one loss early on in the big 10 isn't going to hurt the Hawks.
I just hope they play really well.
And I hope that McNamara can connect with some receivers.
They're close.
They're trying to get these patterns gelled.
I don't think they're far away and is where does this sounds?
I think Brian and Kirk have been keeping some of the exotics as Hayden used to call them under wraps.
They weren't going to telegraph those the first three games.
There might be some surprises in terms of play calling in this game later this
evening, Scott.
You know, absolutely.
And I find it very interesting too is that there's something you always say that in sports and everything in the media that they always seem to know something.
The programmers know something.
There's a reason why they put Iowa
Penn
State at night on CBS
the first
time in 30 years.
The big 10 is on CBS again.
And then, ironically, earlier than the week, NBC flexed Iowa and Michigan State next Saturday under the lights, the blackout game at Kenick Stadium.
That's a must win for the Hawkeyes.
Absolutely with all the garbage that's going on up there at East Lansing.
And I know we'll get into that in a later show, but that program is should be just tarred and feathered and been done with.
after all that stuff that's going on up there.
Bring back Duffy Doherty.
Yeah.
I want the good old days.
And so Chip, I think there's something going on out there that even the TV execs know that this Iowa team, it's all setting up.
And we've always said about every six to eight years, Kirk makes a run on the national stage that just makes everybody furious because it's an Iowa program.
And that could be a good point.
This could be the year that might get happened.
John brought up something when you look at it from the NFL perspective that I want to ask.
And if my memory is correct, and I don't understand this, when they look at the standings, the rankings, like who's going to win the division?
Of course, this is the last year for it.
But East and West, they look at the overall conference record.
They do not look at it first by how you did in your division.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Yep, it sure is.
And so that's how their scene goes.
Then the NFL doesn't do it that way, as I understand.
The NFL does look at the division first.
You have to win your division.
And then if you get to the overall record, that's because they're getting into tiebreakers.
And I never understood why the Big 10 didn't look at it that way as far as division first and then all conference.
And then maybe, you know, your season record, season record, of course, is going to be down the list a little while, a little ways because some teams
Some teams have a notorious habit of playing garbage programs
SCC school doctor name any Yeah, and I think that's a great point too.
And so it's gonna be very interesting Moving forward especially next year John with the extended playoffs the 12 team playoff
but the big 10 is getting rid of divisions and we're going to basically go to a pod system for scheduling.
So that's going to be very interesting next year as well.
But there's a lot of pressure right now on the big 10 to do well in the playoffs, the bull season.
There's a lot of pressure on Iowa too because everybody talks about the big three Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State.
And so
speaking of pressure, I'm a little concerned about one aspect of the album.
When Drew Stevens missed that 39 yard field goal, you know,
That's supposed to be automatic for him.
And it was kind of like in the old days, if you watch Jack Nicholas, Mr. Four Footer, which he hardly ever did, then every green after that, you know, you kind of get worried as a fan if Jack's going to muff the
They give me a putt there.
Are you worried about Drew Stevens at all
a little bit?
But at the same time I often remember to we talked about the o9 team remember when Ricky stands you through a pick six in those games We always joked he's got him right where he wants
six
out of the way
And then Ricky would throw three touchdowns later in the in the game So I think it just get it out of their system right now But you know special teams coach LeVar Woods one of the best coaches there is in the nation He should be in line for a lot of big-name programs
rams moving forward and he's got that special teams humming right now.
They blocked a punt again.
They lead the nation in that over the last 10 to 15 years.
So, you know, he's not a Nate Cating, but he's pretty darn close.
Scotty, I love it.
We've got him right where we want him in the Nick, the Ricky Stanzi allegory.
I have a lifelong friend in law school buddy at Iowa who is furious with me.
In 1985, at Kinnock, when Iowa trailed Michigan State, when Michigan State went ahead with about a minute and a half left of the game in Kinnock, and I looked at them and I said, okay, we've got them right where we want them.
And he just wanted a cold clock me.
He was so P owed.
And then about 45 seconds later, naked bootleg by Chuck Long.
We had him right where we want him, Scotty.
You know, absolutely.
And it's just kind of ironic chip how things got kind of play out over the years.
We kind of was 85, by the way, for all you
people under the age of 50.
Yeah, that's a long, long time ago.
And but you talk about that.
And so in 25 years with Kurt Ferenc at the helm, we know it's
at the end of the day, that the defense, whether it was the great Norm Parker, now it's Phil Parker, and now the special teams.
We know we got them right where we want them.
The conditions are gonna be terrible tonight at Happy Valley, and I think Kirk's gonna be a little bit more, I wouldn't say aggressive, but the same time he knows, is playing right into Phil Parker's hands in that defense.
It's gonna be epic,
guys.
Go ahead, go ahead, Sheriff.
Yeah, well, Scott, you're breaking it down, excellently.
When you look at the different factors of all the teams, the leg up that Iowa has, one is going to be their defense.
It is going to be their special teams.
They always talk about intangibles.
And the number of times that Iowa has surprised or caught a highly ranked Penn State and pulled away a win, I think that intangible also impacts Iowa in their favor.
And so you look at the other side, what does Penn State have?
The offense will look good, but I think that they've got some problems there that are internally that they're still working on.
And that could go well for Iowa.
Penn State's always got a good defense.
That's probably going to be their helping point because of the problems that Iowa has on their defense, on their offense.
But it is interesting that when you bring up the defense special teams, there is that intangible.
Those are three huge factors going into the game.
Well guys, this has been a great discussion.
Chip is gonna stay with us.
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Many of us are live and kicking because of the courage and the outstanding medical diagnoses and treatment plans that were used by doctors Ted Fogarty and Dr. David Hartsuch respectively in Iowa.
They had COVID figured out when the hospitals were flailing with people dying left and right from remdesivir
and ventilators and these guys are on the cutting edge of truth telling they've been prophetic and correct about everything since 2020 studio audience on their feet for the return of doctors Ted Fogarty and David Hartsuch.
Guys welcome the show right out of the gate.
Our co-contributor Chip Reedman from Omaha has
Two questions, and I'm going to ask the first question, then I'll go to Fogarty and Hartsuch, and then the second question, I'll go to Hartsuch and Fogarty.
We've got a good 15 minutes here.
Chip, your first question for the good doctors.
Thanks, doctor.
Coming on, I really appreciate it.
The first question would be on mass.
There's so much information and so-called misinformation.
being given on those.
I'm thinking specifically about the surgical masks and the N95s and whether they really work for stopping a virus in general, not even just COVID.
And I think I've seen packaging on the surgical masks that say that they're not suggested to be used for viruses.
Can you guys give me what your opinion is on the efficacy of using these things in this COVID environment that everyone is worried about?
Great question on masks.
I'll go to Fogarty and you know, I'm seeing it more in the retail stores again Scott It's raising its ugly head again.
I see people in masks talk to us about this masking Fogarty
you up first Yeah points of physics that are pretty easy for everyone to understand I ended up getting I ended up help helping push through the anti-mass bill in North Dakota.
It was actually
Vito, by Governor Bergen, is running for president, okay?
If this doesn't say something about a guy who's running for president, he vetoed a mask ban in North Dakota.
And then the North Dakota Senate, through my teaching of the physics behind the folly of masks, overturned his veto.
But this is pretty easy for everybody out in the farming crowd and rural crowd to figure out.
It's simply a matter of the mesh of a surgical mask.
and I've done hundreds if not thousands of procedures and interventional radiology.
Those masks are basically they're just those surgical masks or they're just a net catching viruses.
Some of them are getting through to the to the outer surface.
Some of them are staying on the inside and some of them are jetting through the through the sides when you cough.
They jet out of the sides and so
I did a demonstration actually of, I took Pro Immune Immune Formulation 200, it's a very fine powder.
It's an antiviral supplement patented in Canada.
I put it in my mouth and I coughed behind a surgical mask and then did a slow motion video in the sunshine of Bismarck and sent that out to all of the legislators.
And you can see clearly there's these jets of white powder going out the sides of my surgical mask and up around my nose when I'm coughing.
And so it's an obvious visual demonstration of how these masks do not stop the transmission of COVID, in fact, for any virus.
They're only there in the surgical and interventional arts and medicine to protect the operator, the proceduralist, from blood splashes.
Fastening, Ted.
You can just see it.
People can go do this experiment in their own home.
Just get some flour.
Put some flour in your mouth and cough behind a mask and watch it come out the side.
But what's great is Ted convinced the legislature, and so North Dakota is mask free.
Dr. Honorable David Hartsuch, former Iowa State Center.
Doc, your take on this, and does this weave in at all with your very excellent lawsuit against the Iowa Board of Medicine and Pharmacy, which I hope you win.
It needs to happen.
Those two boards need to get their comeuppance.
Doc, take it away.
Yeah, John, I think that first of all, we have to realize that Ted is, Ted Togherty is fearless in what he's telling the public because the Board of Medicine has been basically engaged in investigations against doctors, intending to harm them if they should speak out against COVID at all.
They call it misleading information.
These investigations have been going across the United States.
We will get Dr. Latula, who's out in Oregon, who lost his practice, lost his license, can no longer practice again, merely because he was talking against the mask mandate.
His problem was he stood up publicly at a school board meeting, talking against masks, and in the end, they ended up investigating him.
and taking away his license because of it.
Clearly abridging his free speech.
I am going to decline to answer this question.
Sure.
For the same reason.
Yes.
Board of Medicine here in Iowa has been using these investigations to silence doctors.
Yep.
And this is the prime, what I'm seeking is an important junction to prevent the Board of Medicine from engaging in the suppression of free speech of doctors.
The public has a right to know and they respect their opinion.
They want it.
This
is outrageous what the Iowa Board of Medicine has done.
Absolutely outrageous.
Right.
Many of my
patients who... Go ahead.
Yeah.
Not only many of my patients have asked me, well, should I get vaccinated?
And I tell them, because of this action of the board,
My response is about a fair as a two-headed coin.
Because if I say anything about get vaccinated, then I'm going to be basically
under duress.
I wish the Attorney General would investigate these boards, Scott.
I really do.
I think the Attorney General for the people of Iowa
needs to go in with some extreme due diligence and look at what these boards are doing.
You can't be a political player in this.
You have to do what's best for the people of Iowa.
And there are things going on on the medical board that may not be good for the health of the general public.
Well, it just
doesn't always fall on the Attorney General's office either.
Let's not forget the legislature.
Both chambers, especially the Senate, has a lot of responsibility.
They could be doing a lot of oversight hearings as well.
And if it's that in the house for that matter, why is empty?
You know majority leader?
Windschild as well as majority leader with verse scheduling some of these hearings because the public needs to know about this.
This is an ongoing issue.
didn't happen overnight.
Yeah, we're going into year four of this kind of foolishness right now.
just because we're all Republicans on both chambers as well as the
Attorney General and the governor's office doesn't mean that we can't have a serious oversight because they are co-equal branches and sometimes I think the legislature forgets that.
Scott, I was on the oversight committee in the house and I wanted investigations into the Glenwood Resource Center and to the break-ins of the courthouses by the consultants and, you know,
Those were swept under the rug.
Those were not allowed.
And it is terrible when partisanship trumps constitutional responsibilities.
And Tim Grover, you're listening in here.
You're a super contributor from Makoka.
You were with President Trump the other day.
But I wanted to bring you in because we just had hearts such an
Fogarty here with us.
You found some heart-such groupies the other day.
Talk about that a little bit, huh?
Well, yeah, I basically was carrying the campaign on Wednesday.
And they dropped in at the tree house.
And Trump dropped in at the tree house there in Bettendorf.
He was handing out pizzas to the folks while DeSantis was with all the millionaires trying to raise money at some big hoity-toity thing.
Of course, and you know, I had originally tried to get him into the iron bar up in Dubuque, and they made the right decision because they already had the events there, and they went with this one down in Bettendorf
The concept was there, and they had a nice question-and-answer period during the macopoda session to show the human side of this man, because there is one.
Yes, there is.
When you stand in with the crowd, by the way, Lelena St.
Stoltenberg was an absolute star at the McCulloch stuff.
Well, she's a huge pro-lifer.
She's got guts to take on leadership, too.
I like her.
Trump's up there.
He says, you know, I met Lelena.
And he says, she said, I pray to you every day and send you letters.
You can read any of them.
And what an angel.
You know, a lot of people don't know.
I want to take a moment about Lelena.
People don't know.
She goes out to, uh, down for assumption and talks about abstinence and if you, to girls and if they do get pregnant to, to give them up for adoption.
And she is a leader in the state house and she has not appreciated it.
I, I, and, you know, well, not, not all good people are
appreciated.
David Hartzburg is too, but yeah.
You're pretty hot stuff yet, is that in Dwarf, David?
So
you did see some Hartsich groupies there, huh?
Oh, there was a ton of them there in that front row.
Wow, Dave, what do you think about that, Dr. Hartsich?
I wanted to be there myself, but nobody told me I was
going to be there.
You have to watch the security, you know.
I'd say it was either me, my thing up in the booth, and Tendi Dirk's
And she got the crowd for it.
Awesome.
And Sandy is a great, great warrior.
Awesome.
Chip Reidman, your second question.
You had a great second question.
Fire away for our doctors here.
This one may
be a little less complicated regarding the new and improved, as they call it, vaccines, gene therapy, whatever you want to describe this mRNA procedure.
The new ones are coming out have been
I've understand that they have not been tested on humans at all, and only like 10 mice is all that they put these things through.
Is that true?
We'll go Dr. Fogarty and then Hartzich.
Let me take this from the land of free speech for physicians, which is Nebraska.
Yes, we give kudos to Attorney General Emeritus Doug Peterson.
That's a real attorney general.
Yeah, absolutely.
He wrote a 44 page brief on the Hippocratic Principles
the Great Nebraska
and Hydroxychloroquine to patients in Nebraska by Nebraska physicians.
Yeah, I love I love Ivermectin I think it saved me and that's just my personal testimony go ahead go ahead and Hydroxychloroquine to very good drugs.
Go ahead doctor.
Sorry for interrupting
Well, so I wrote the language for the mRNA ban bill that was taken up by the North Dakota legislature as well as the Idaho legislature.
And once it presented itself in Idaho, of course, all the liberal media was just talking about the crazy GOP party officials in Idaho trying to ban all mRNA products.
But I wrote that, I wrote that language.
from the point of view of what would God's bioethicists say?
The bioethicists who are adherent to a godly manner, whatever faith you're in, the point is this, we have a human invention now, and it's not even God's version of mRNA, it's modified RNA.
So there are nucleotides in there that don't exist in nature.
And that's why they persist for six months in these quote unquote vaccines.
They are they are not vaccines by prior arts and intellectual property law.
They are a completely different product that is modifying our genome.
And there are reports now out in the medical literature and Pfizer, BioNTech.
In particular, there's a paper that came out in January of 2021 that showed that liver cells are starting to incorporate that gene sequence right into the human liver cells.
And there's been skin biopsies showing this, the same thing.
So these are genetic modifications of God's DNA that we are all imbued with.
This is the most unethical human rights violation in the history of mankind.
All of this mRNA stuff.
And that's the way I feel.
I agree with you 100%.
Let's see what Dr. Hartsich also thinks.
Oh, I have a very strong opinion about this, but I'm not willing to disclose
it.
This is
great.
This is great.
And we're doing this for illustrative purposes.
The Iowa Board of Medicine has choked off the ability for physicians to tell the truth that will directly impact
their patient's ability to receive excellent health care.
And that, to me, is dastardly invillanous, Scott Corey.
There's no other words for it.
You know, absolutely.
And it's a chill.
I would, yeah, John, I would say that I'm not doing this for illustrative purposes and generally in fear for the medicine.
Every doctor is in fear
of medicine.
You know, Ted's folding me.
Speaking truthfully
yes
in order to and he shows what bravery that guy has what is not This is a real threat the board of medicine is making to every doctor and preventing doctors from speaking freely About subject that the public wants to know from the doctor.
Yeah, and as a legislator and now legislator emeritus I can tell you There were over a dozen Iowa physicians the ones Scott that had in Tim Tim Grover
the ones that had the best COVID track record for treatment.
Yeah.
They were the ones punished while the hospitals were killing fields.
Tim Grover is an outrage.
Tim, how do you see it?
I can tell you right now, I was talking to a gal at the tree house once a night, whose daughter-in-law is a physician in one of the big hospital chains.
And her other friend was talking to her.
And this came up during the conversation.
She says, yes, my daughter-in-law is being told what to prescribe her patient.
That's what God's on this
crew.
Well, Tim, I'll tell you this.
If I had gone to the hospital on remdesivir and a ventilator, I'd be dead.
I instead went on an ivermectin protocol and was perfectly fine in less than 48 hours.
That's my story.
That's my
story.
Scott, we're in a state where we have this Republican trifecta and under the guise of being a medically free state, we're not.
We've got a medical board like Gavin Newsom does in California.
And I think that's the real disconnect right now is that the general public does not realize what is actually going on out there.
There's very few media outlets except for our show.
We're it.
We're it.
Fortunately, we've got
three
networks and we cover
99 counties
at
least.
You know, absolutely.
And so having this kind of conversation move forward and
for somebody that, you know, I've known Dr. Hart such on and off this program for a few years now, but at the same time for him to actually say that publicly on the airwaves is quite frightening and chilling,
I
think.
And Dr. Hart such, I assume you are not the only one in this boat.
There are numerous doctors in all 99 counties that probably are in the same boat as you that do not want to speak out for fear of retaliation.
I can say I know of a dozen.
And again, these are the dozen.
They were targeted precisely because they had the best COVID record because they were using protocols that were efficacious and safe.
That's what drives me crazy, Tim Grover.
Yes, I can confirm.
I'm not going to drop any names, but there's doctors here in Jackson County.
Jackson County is in a rare situation.
Both of our general practitioner clinics are independent yet.
They're the last of a dying breed, by the way.
My intel that I'm hearing from my guys is they're moving into the big hospital system.
The first thing they're gonna do is take over your real estate with these big corporations that are going in and buying up single-family homes that Bobby's talking about.
This is absolutely legit intel.
And they're buying up these homes around these hospitals so they can control the real estate.
And then the center of power is going to be your big hospital chain.
And they will, like I said, in Jackson County here, we have two independent clinics left, and they may be the last of a dying breed.
Chip Reedman, what's your take on the Omaha area?
Basically, you've got three mega providers now, CHI, Nebraska Health, and Methodist.
It is interesting, Chip.
You still had some folks in Omaha who, because their attorney, General Peterson, gave an opinion, and we're down to our last couple of minutes here, that gave them a green light.
Can you argue, I'll specifically target this to Dr. Hartstich.
Can you argue that Nebraska had a better record against COVID than Iowa did, Dr. Hartstich?
The answer to that is yes.
And I think that one I'm willing to talk about, because Ted's already put together some information about a comparison between Iowa and...
Let's go to Ted.
We've got two minutes left.
Ted, can you do this in two minutes before we gotta sign off?
Well, yeah, basically, you know, we had a significant distinction across the river.
between Iowa and Nebraska, where there were less people dying in Nebraska per diagnosis of COVID than in Iowa.
And, you know, fairly similar states, fairly similar distribution of
of race in other categories.
And so that's important.
But the other thing is, you know, on the free speech and the federal CARES Act grant that was awarded to basically bring in the bestimmunesupport.com, proimmune and hyperbaric right into the Northern Plains.
I literally created the ultimate protocol to stop all pandemics.
based on glutathione amino acid precursors and hyperbaric.
And if you look at the literature around the world, this is where nobody in America can actually touch me or Dr. Paul Harch at LSU on the matters of how hyperbaric should have been used in every moderate to severe COVID patient to oxygenate their bodies while they couldn't oxygenate them through ventilator systems.
And I will go on record and I'll stand up in front of any court, any public sphere of influence or any broadcast.
debating any Iowa or Nebraska or any other ICU physician on these matters.
We did not use the right devices in this pandemic, and they're called hyperbaric chambers.
Doc, that's great.
And I'm going to say, Scotty, we're never going to allow them to do again what they did.
And remember, even Iowa was de facto shut down.
When I had hospitals begging me to get the governor to
allow elective surgeries again.
And when I had one of Iowa's largest employers retail calling and saying, John, you got to get us open or we're going to be down forever.
That's a problem.
And we've still got emergency powers in place.
And that's a problem.
uh scottie you get the last word here
you know absolutely there are a lot of problems out there but we'd also be remiss if we didn't take a moment and send our thoughts and prayers out to the first gentleman uh kevin reynolds i've known kevin for about 15 years a diagnosed lung cancer i know he's getting treatment he's a fighter godspeed kevin reynolds
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