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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Sep 11, 2023
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Good morning, Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Northern Iowa, Southern Minnesota, and many states on beyond in this big 10 land of ours.
This is Chip Reidman-Hosen, the Jacobson Group broadcast on KXEL, 1540 AM, 100.5 on the FM dial.
We are happy that you are with us today.
We got a great lineup of people.
Of course, John Jacobson will be coming on.
He's in mobile unit number one.
We have good friend Tim Grover going to be joining us for the broadcast.
I've got Mike Shane here at the controls trying to keep me in line unsuccessfully at times.
And we also have Barb Haynes, our excellent sponsor, generous, kind-hearted, conservative, just the type of woman that I like.
She'll be coming on and talking about her business.
John, how you doing this morning?
I got to watch Oppenheimer last night.
What do you think of that?
Oh, good for you.
You know, I haven't had time yet to take the lovely and gracious Deborah to the theater for three hours.
But, you know, it's a Christopher Nolan directed movie, Chip, and I absolutely think that one of his previous motion pictures, Interstellar, is one of the quiet sleeping giant masterpieces of all time.
although set in a science fiction milieu and genre, it really transcends science fiction.
The plot really is about the love between a father and a daughter and how love even perdures and transcends time and space itself.
Interstellar by Christopher Nolan.
So I presume Oppenheimer is every bit as good and Chip, I'm just so pumped.
You know, I'm a Hawkeye and I have a law alum.
what can be better than this Saturday morning pregame on KXGL heading into the great Hawkeye Cyclone matchup this year at Jack Trice Stadium in Ames.
And some may think, and I know we're going to talk about Huskers going to the high altitude in Boulder with the very, you know, just the cause
It's a lab of the day.
You mean the self-centered coach, the coach that has the whole universe revolving around him and happens to have a football team alongside?
Yeah, yeah, I know the Huskers don't love that guy, but all he does is win.
But you know what?
Arguably, that could be the epicenter of college football, but you know, Donald Trump is going to fly in and go to the Hawkeye Cyclones game.
And I'm reminded because I'm of a certain age as a little kid,
In 1969, watching undefeated number one and number two, Texas and Arkansas, watching President Richard Nixon flying his helicopter in to the stadium and attending the Texas Arkansas game, it was the game of the century before the game of the century that followed.
A little over a year later between Nebraska and Oklahoma, Arkansas went out to a 14-0 lead
in front of President Nixon in the second half, Texas under Darrell Royal, and that Longhorn wishbone 15 points for a 15-14 win.
And of course, Nixon was in the Longhorn locker room at the end of the game, not the Razorback locker room.
So I think Iowa, this is going to be such an exciting game, two undefeated teams at this juncture.
You know what's going to be interesting about this?
If I am correct, didn't Trump come to the same game in 2015?
He
did, and that one was at Kinnick Stadium.
He was very well received.
A lot of people may not realize this, but there are others to President Trump within the Hawkeye organization.
Several of the players back in 2015 definitely were like President Trump at that time.
He had not been elected president yet, but I know Brad Zahn, one of our state senators, had a son who played during that time for Coach Farrance.
Brad's senator Zahn indicated to me there are a lot of Trump fans in the Hawkeye organization.
Back in 2020 chip, I was at the Hy-Vee Center there in Des Moines with my good friend, Pat Grassley and Bobby Kaufman and President Trump was there for an event and sitting at the table next to me was Coach Ferrance and had such a nice chat with him.
Coach Ferrance is a class act and of course he plays it right down the middle of the field, so to speak, but always gracious.
kind and you know when they told him that the president was coming in for this game he says that's great he and 60,000 other people and it looks now like there will be some other candidates that will try to take advantage of Jack Trice I've always told my presidential folks that I interview I said this to
Bobby Kennedy, I've said this to Vivek Ramaswamy.
I said this to Larry Elder.
I said, you guys need to get to Kinnock for a ball game and meet 75,000 great Iowa fans at once.
Well, it's interesting you bring up Larry Elder on my way in this morning, you know, getting ready to do the show.
He was on a local station here on Omaha.
And they actually was interviewing him.
It was very interesting.
He discussed why he wasn't put on the last debate stage.
Really, really sad episode in the Republic and the RNC and their management of the debates.
But he's really good.
I'd really like to hear him.
So going to the Iowa State game, so is Trump hoping to pull out?
a little of the juju magic because it was two thousand fifteen and then sixteen the election comes he wins here we are in twenty three is he hoping that the same magic will come to him uh... tim grover you there i'd like to maybe let you weigh in on this a little bit
yeah yeah i would i would think that uh... something to do uh... john talking about uh... uh... taxes and mix and go into the taxes game
I would almost say that Trump is probably more popular right now with the people more than Nixon was at that time going to that football game.
And I think the reason is he's in touch with the people and knows what they like and need.
He's listening to them.
And that's a big reason to show up to this game.
This is the big week for us, the Psyhawk week in Iowa.
And it's a great tradition and a big event.
And it's more than just getting your name out there and everything.
It's showing that you recognize the importance of something in everyday people's lives.
That's something our current president could learn to do.
Absolutely.
So let's recap a little bit.
So last Saturday we had Iowa with Utah State.
Iowa pulled out the 24-14 win.
Maybe pulled out isn't the right word to use.
They did take the lead early, but they did stall badly, I'd have to say.
I didn't watch the game, so I wanted to kind of pick up some
You know, stuff going on on Twitter and maybe some, you know, texts and stuff I was getting about it.
And I'm sure people are getting a little bit nervous because Brian just wasn't getting the offense going in that game.
But they did get the win and that's what's important.
Iowa State played UNI.
UNI has been known to be an upset team, has ruined a couple seasons for some teams.
But Iowa State managed that game with a 30-9 win.
So now we've got the two teams coming to face each other.
Do we have any little guesses, John, as to what you kind of see going to happen today?
High scoring, low scoring?
I know what I've heard that it's supposed to be low scoring, but what do you think's going to happen?
You know, Chip, I think there's going to be low scoring.
Cade McNamara is a great quarterback, truly.
I mean, he led Michigan.
to a championship before the portal transfer.
But I think the issue is, Brian has a very conservative play calling chart, and the Iowa Mojo has always been.
It's kind of like the old Vince Lombardi teams.
Vince wasn't lobbing the ball down the field.
Bart Starr was throwing short, crisp passes, and they had a running game with...
Fuzzy Thurston and Jerry Kramer pulling for Jimmy Taylor and Paul Horning.
So I also think being in Ames, the Ames crowd, that game means more in some ways the Ames crowd than it does the Hawkeye crowd.
The Hawkeyes are always shooting to the Big 10, championship of the Rose Bowl.
I think it's going to be maybe a 21-17 game.
Iowa coming out on top, but I think it'll be close.
I think it'll be a little scoring.
Well, and I was favored by three and a half.
Like I said, it's a low scoring game.
I think the over under is like 38 points.
So divide that by 2 is 19.
So 21 to 17 is right there.
I'd take the
under on that.
Yeah, I'd take the under on that.
Yeah, and it's funny.
I've got 21-17.
But as you are aware, I am an Iowa State alum.
So I'm kind of hoping that Iowa can pull what most people would probably say would be a little bit of an upset just looking at the points.
I'm thinking that they'd be likewise 21 to 17.
So that's what I'm kind of seeing happening.
Tim, what do you think's going to happen?
What's your prediction?
Well, you know, I was listening to Kirk talking about the other day about how it's about impossible because of NIL to prepare for these games anymore because the teams aren't the same same teams that from last year because of the personnel changes and I I think I've been a bean towards the Hawkeyes as well.
I love quarterback named Rocco.
I've never come across my quarterback named Rocco.
I think that's cool, but
You know, I would say it's always has a pretty good defense and probably one of the better ones in their in their conference and Yeah, I think it'll be a little sorry.
I think the quarterback will be the difference in this game.
I like Maximira a lot I think he's got a great football mind and he does have a little more experience.
So yeah, 21 17 looks about right the mobile scoring not too much scoring but but
Not like a three-nothing field goal game, you know, where it's three-nothing, that's it, you know.
So, yeah, I think that's all right with Iowa Get in the Edge, and I think it's mainly because the quarterback's got more experience.
Chip, you know what I want to just indicate is that with, of course, our media and this ensemble team here we hold, we swept all the awards of the hour broadcast news for best sports coverage, best sports cast.
and even the play-by-play we did at the Legislative All-Star game.
I would be at that game, but for, I have Coast Guard training coming up in a few, well literally, in just a few hours here at Camp Dodge in Des Moines, but I know that when the games are at Kinnock, Barbara Haymes Bryant loves to be at those games, because she bleeds black and gold.
just like I do.
And you know, she doesn't even need to go to the stadium to hobnob with these presidential candidates as chair of the Iowa Federation of Republican women.
Barbara, they come courting Barbara, Chip and Tim and Mike.
And I think we've got
Barbara, with us right now, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, we do.
Barbara, you there.
Good morning, guys.
How are you?
We're doing great.
Beautiful weather this time of year.
We're back to something normal for once.
Back down in the 80s, crisp mornings, which puts a little pep in your step if you want to go out for a walk.
So I'm assuming it's probably the same at where you're at.
It's a beautiful fall day here a lot better than it was last Saturday at Kinnick Stadium where we were just roasting in the stands.
I believe that, I believe that.
Did it break a hundred?
Probably on the field was probably over a hundred.
The players were playing I would say they were pretty hot too.
I mean by hot I mean hot and tired not hot and on the ball.
So Barb, you,
Barb?
I
believe it.
I totally believe that.
So here's the question, Barb.
You have Hames Homes, as I understand it, Modular Homes.
As I've said on previous broadcasts, I have a place up in Wisconsin that is also a modular home.
Believe me, folks, you can't tell.
It might as well just be a site-built home.
They're beautiful homes.
They're solid.
They're well-constructed.
I like them because the floors are solid.
You don't get that squeaky, spongy feeling like you do with some homes where they use real thin plywood on them.
These things have to have tremendous structural integrity to be able to be built and hauled and transported and set on.
on a foundation.
And what's better about it is for you guys, Barb, is you guys have to build them indoors.
It's not as hot in there, I'd assume, as it would be for a framer out on a job site.
That's true.
We purchase our homes from manufacturers in Indiana, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.
And the homes are built indoors in a climate-controlled environment.
So there's very little waste.
There's no worries about
rain or snow and it's also because it's built you know in a factory style each person has a specialty and they just do what they do best every day you're not sitting around waiting for
Subcontractors to finish another job before they come and work on the homes.
And they're transported a little highway.
I'm sure you've seen those wide load signs and brought here to our beautiful communities in Grandview and Summit View.
They're installed, they're safe, they're sturdy, they survived the derecho, nothing tipped over, nothing blew away.
And that's a great testament to how sturdy and solid these homes are.
yes this is definitely not like a trailer park situation folks these are solid homes you're not going to be needing to put a bunch of cables on them to hold them into place these homes aren't going anywhere so barb when you so getting to the construction aspect if i am a new customer coming in to see you
So, how far do you guys take it?
I still need a foundation.
I mean, we are in Iowa.
I'm in Nebraska.
We do have a frost line.
We have to get footings down too.
Mostly we put in basements.
You know, then you got the water.
If you're out in the country, you have a water, you have maybe the sewer.
What all other services do you guys provide in putting a home on a job site?
I'm glad you asked about.
There is a difference between a modular home and a manufactured home.
I won't get into too many technicalities, but we specialize in manufactured homes.
Our homes are installed according to an engineer's specification on concrete slabs with tie-downs and piers below frost.
So we are experts in installing manufactured homes onto a home site.
They're not installed on a foundation per se.
They're installed on a home site, but it's structurally and engineering-wise an extremely solid foundation.
Yeah, Barbara I've been out there multiple times and it's just what what folks again just to remind our listeners when you go and see Barbara she's in Southwest Cedar Rapids they're not far from the airport and close to all the retail but yet in an agrarian environment you really have a pastoral setting that Dvorak could compose his new world symphony to
It's beautiful and picturesque, but Robert, you're kind of de facto mayor of 3,000 people.
You have these two communities with these manufactured homes in neighborhoods with streets, with lights, with landscaping.
It's really, really impressive.
And you make sure that these are safe neighborhoods.
Can you highlight three things for us?
Just the safety precautions that you take, both
screening and monitoring, but also, and I'll tell you in the other two, the pantry and the garden.
You guys are doing so much for the community, and you've won awards and been recognized rightfully so for your custodial citizenship, stewardship for the greater good of the folks in the area.
Talk about that.
I know your mom and dad would be so proud of this legacy that you carry forward so boldly.
Oh, John, that's so nice of you to say.
Yes, we have planned, private, managed neighborhoods.
These aren't city neighborhoods, so you do have to apply to get in.
And we do a screening process.
People, people are allowed to live in our communities.
The residents here agree to a set of rules that they abide by when they live here.
And we have one site on call managers 24 hours a day.
who helped enforce those rules and assist residents with emergencies.
Well, not only do we assist residents with emergencies, we assist them with everyday necessities.
After the derecho, we discovered that food was an absolute necessity and it was easier to have it in one of our offices at Grandview or Summit View than it was to try to deliver food to everybody.
And that is blossomed into
a very popular, well-stocked food pantry at Summit View, which is at 100 Hayden Street, Southwest.
It's open Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
There's no eligibility requirements.
Anybody can come and use it.
And with our community garden, we have lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, too.
Personal hygiene items.
We have dog food, dog treats.
It's amazing the benefit for our neighborhoods, and we're proud to do it.
Yeah, Barb, I just think that this is the perfect time.
We're in an economic situation right now where it's fascinating.
Because of the interest rate hikes now, if you were to buy a $300,000 home today with a 30-year mortgage amortization, you are going to be paying ultimately
$400,000 more for that home by the time the interest payments are done, then you would have under the Trump administration because the interest rate hikes.
But Barbara, for people...
In that situation, they're not boxed out of housing.
Your housing is, you've got financing, but it's so much more affordable, they can get into your beautiful homes affordably and still get the financing and not have to turn a $300,000 house into a $750,000 house.
In
our neighborhoods, John, people own their homes and lease the land.
All of our homes are owner occupied.
So people do need to get a loan to purchase one and must pay cash for it.
And if you take the fact that the manufactured housing interest rates on loans are pretty similar right now to what they are on regular site-built homes and manufactured homes.
cost half of what a site built on cost brand new and the fact that the rules are generally a shorter term.
If you do the math, the manufactured home hands down is the best value.
Absolutely.
Well, Barb, I'm going to be coming through there next week, actually.
Always like to see some of the folks from my hometown, especially mom up there in Marion, who also has a 319-277-486 number.
Barbara, what's your phone number?
Address that they could drive by your beautiful two communities, your two mini cities, really, are united by that TOW MIA flag.
Old Glory in the Iowa red, white, and blue there over your lovely offices and a website.
Give us the triple option of Barbara Hames on how to reach you.
Address, website, and phone number, Barbara.
We love showing off our beautiful communities and invite anybody and everybody to come and visit them anytime.
We're located on Wilson Avenue Southwest.
on West Post Road and Wilson Avenue.
So it's the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.
and it has a full listing of the beautiful new and pre-owned homes we have for sale.
And our phone number is our old Marion Legacy phone number.
As you mentioned, 319-377-4863.
319-377-4863.
You
know Barbara, I will always hold a warm place in my heart for your late great father who endorsed me.
Even before I declared that I would be a candidate for the Iowa legislature, he knew how to pick winners.
I knew how to find decent, great American heads of commerce whose support would be giving me the bonus fees I needed.
to propel a campaign.
You also are a good prognosticator.
I'm not going to ask you to make a political pick today.
I'm going to ask you to say who's going to win and give me a score of Iowa State coming up here in just a few hours.
I think that a team from Iowa will win.
That's
a safe
call.
I went to get in there to look at those beautiful Haynes homes.
Well played with the plot of Barbara Haynes,
Brian.
Saying both fight songs with equal fervor there, Barb.
That's how they do
it.
Hey, I went through and through, and I vote for any team from Iowa, a route from any team from
Iowa.
That's a great, great attitude.
Guys, do what I do.
Drive through the neighborhood, go see Barb Haynes, get out there right away, and Barb, always wonderful to talk to you.
Studio audience again, very appreciative on their feet.
You're one of the popular ones, Barbara.
Keep up the great work.
God bless and go Hawks.
Go Hawks.
The great Barbara Hames Bryant, ladies and gentlemen, captain of commerce and industry across Iowa, have the Iowa Federation of Republican women and really the de facto mayor of two beautiful communities there in Southwest Cedar Rapids.
Chip, you've got to see the beautiful landscaping.
The streets are in pristine condition.
They're well lit.
It is just a healthianic rock welly and type of neighborhood environment.
I'd be proud to have my family in there anytime, anyplace.
And maybe someday the leveling gracious Mrs. Jacobson.
We'll venture back, you know, they say you can never go home again.
Maybe I will try to refute that notion that came from Thomas Wolfe and see if we can't go home again and have a spot back there as we continue to develop our.
business into eastern Iowa from Omaha and Des Moines, Chip.
Absolutely.
You know, I was looking on the website.
They do have some nice pictures of the homes out there.
You can get a good feel just going to hamshomes.com and checking things out.
A lot of good information there for you that you can look at.
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Boy, that was a great conversation we had with Barb Haines.
And John Jacobson and Tin Grover all here on the line with KXEL on 1540 and 100.5 on the radio dial.
It was a great interview.
She gave a great story and it was good to talk to her.
But it's time to get back to some football.
We got some great games coming up this week.
There's actually one we haven't mentioned.
I just heard on the way in, the Texas and Alabama are playing.
That one's probably going to consume a little of the airtime.
That's a huge game for both those programs.
Well, we mentioned earlier about Nebraska versus Colorado.
We've been talking about how Prime has just absolutely taken all the oxygen out of the room because it's all about him and football.
They've had a dramatic change in that program in the last year.
He basically kicked a lot of players off.
Tim, I think you've got a bunch of information that you probably did some studying on, interested to hear.
I think he's pulled in from what I understand.
There's some BTN network.
I believe Urban Meyer said that he's got eighty-some new players on that team.
Those are teams that aren't like a hundred, you know, low hundreds is all they have on there.
Nebraska brought in sixty.
That's the NIL and the transfer situation that's affecting that.
Tim, so what has your research told you about about prime time?
Deion says his secret, and it was that Jacksonville too, is his secret is old school.
That's his big secret.
That's old school.
His theme is you play good, they play good.
So in other words, he's doing the old school way.
He's making each of these athletes personally responsible for their own level of play.
And collectively, they'll end up being a great team.
And he said how I started this was I had to have the right staff with the right mindset that we're going to follow my program.
To the T and and understand what we're looking for in these athletes now He's got the one son on there and he's got this hunter that's playing both ways I guess I did not see the game and I think I'm gonna start watching them the rest of year because he's got this Travis Hunter I believe the name is and I guess he's playing both ways and he's quite a player so and it's interesting he has two books on his desk
One is John Maxwell 360 degree leader and the other one is the little engine that could So I think it's basically just old school and and reapplying and of course Yes, he's got a lot of new players on there and of course you can never go You can't have a rebuild without good players.
So so I think that Mainly the secret to success is he says it's old school
basically and getting the players to be responsible for their own play and contributing that way.
You
pretty much hit the nail on the head with that, Tim.
That was one of Urban Meyers' points.
He had a chalkboard up like any good coach would and he had two points.
about the Colorado program and what Dion is doing there.
And one of those points is character and it relates to exactly what you're talking about.
He holds the players responsible for themselves, for their actions.
It's critical for him, especially when you get to old school.
If you're going to be a good team, you've got to have good players with their head on straight.
And that's what he expects from these guys.
You also commented about the coaching staff.
Now the preseason, I guess you'd call it, a lot of talk was because
he had a lot of players come in and a lot of people were feeling they were like division two players maybe was Jackson State you know players that were not power five players well apparently he's proven that wrong that he does have the talent on the team to beat anybody now conversely
On the TCU game, they were in the championship game last year.
I also heard they only had three returning starters on that game.
So they've also gone through the transfer portal in the NIL situation about bringing in new players.
So when the pre-game prognosticators, I want to say that word, came out, they were all saying there was going to be a TCU win.
And with the 1-on-11 record that Colorado had last year, no one saw a game coming.
Well, no one took into account that the change in the environment on collegiate football teams now with all these new players.
John, what do you think about that situation?
I
don't know how these old school coaches would coach today because they built foundationally on having some stability in their chronology.
They would have a player
for at least three years.
I go back to the era when there were even freshman squads that played and then you really had them playing varsity, sophomore, junior, senior year.
And I think the problem is you got old school guys that can adapt and those that can't adapt.
I don't know how a Schembeckler or Woody Hayes would be able to adapt with this type of environment today, but
Yeah, I think, you know, the thing that's amazing to me, Chip, it ultimately comes down to talent.
Dave McNamara is transformative for the Hawkeyes because he's not Spencer Petrus.
Let's face it.
Well, when you say that to players, that's what Barry Switzer always said.
It's a Jimmy's and a Joe's, not the X's and the O's.
It is, and you know, I worked in Madison Ice Plex decades ago, and
There were hockey teams at practice there.
And Barry Switzer came in because he had a financial interest in one of the hockey teams.
And he stood there.
I watched him watch these players on the ice.
And every coach, he was evaluating those individual players that the wheels were going on in his head.
And they were talking about Deion Sanders.
But when you got a kid who's going to play for you, literally your biological son.
who throws for five hundred ten yards and no interception.
That's prime time.
I mean, any quarterback that throws for five hundred ten without an INT is going to be in every single ball game you play.
No question about it.
Well, that's going to be Nebraska's issue.
Without letting Dion suck all the oxygen out of this conversation, looking at the Matt rules side, Matt is very similar into what Dion is.
He's a little bit on the old school.
He wants character, he expects players to be responsible for their actions.
They've already lost one starter, I believe it was a safety, the name escapes me at the moment, who left just before the season was to start.
He was a starter, it was guaranteed, he was going to be getting play in time.
And my suspicion, so this is conspiracy theory only, is one of the issues that he brought up was, like I probably tell my kids, that
Early is on time and on time is late.
And it was a big issue with them about getting to meetings.
If it was an eight o'clock meeting at eight o'clock, the doors closed and you're late.
And I got a suspicion that's probably what one of what the problem was with this player is that he thought he was above the coach, the team and everyone else.
And then he could just do whatever he want.
And when reality hit him, he decided to not suck it up, but to actually just leave like a buttercup.
So it's that so Matt rule is an old-school type coach and he does expect some of that smash mouth football Especially is what you need in the big 10 conference that because you have these people out there hitting each other
Most of us here has lived on Lombardi time most of our life So we really want to have that problem like that kid has it back.
He wouldn't hurt these kids to live on Lombardi time chip 15 minutes early
Yeah, exactly
chip chip and here's the deal
There'll be a watershed moment when Rool can make his line in the sand.
And Mike, Shane, our great engineer, you know, Mike used to work at the great megawatt torch in Omaha that trade the Husker games during the glory years.
under Coach Osborne.
Mike played that ringtone because this is a great Mike Shane, our wonderful engineer who splices and dices and puts his show together so beautifully.
But there's that iconic photo up in Boulder of the Colorado Cheer Squad leading Ralphie the Buffalo right at Tom Osborne on the sideline, Dr. Tom and the Husker team.
And Dr. Tom did not flinch.
He gave directions to Ralphie to head to Starbird to use some nautical terms and maybe Matt Rule will have his moment.
It would be pretty huge.
But Chip, Coach Farron for our Hawkeyes and all the Eastern Iowans are looking, will he become now part of that elite number of coaches to win
200 games as a head college football coach.
The players, Hawkeye Squad say they're playing for Coach Farron Saturday.
So Chip, as an Iowa State alum and a Nebraska fan, objectively, as you can, what's that gonna be like at Jack Trice Saturday?
Because you've got presidential candidates there.
You've got a big game for Iowa for Coach Farron.
Iowa State feels buoyed by a win after just a rugged, brutal spring and summer with athlete eligibility issues and things like that.
Chip, are these extraneous things going to impact the game, do you think?
Oh yeah, they'll always have an impact.
Knowing the students up there from my own experience, 230 kickoff,
Everyone's going to be pretty well lit up, ready for the game.
It won't be like a nighttime game type atmosphere, but, oh, everyone's going to be on top of it.
It's going to be a wild scene when you start throwing all those factors together.
There is something special about the Iowa-Iowa state rivalry.
I know our good friend Scott Corey, who's not on with us today, he's up doing some farming up in Northeast Iowa, unfortunately suffering the drought-stricken corn problems that he's having up there.
But I know he's kind of always been glad to see
this game go away.
But this is a great example of why you want this game to be played, because it just hits all the buttons.
It's going to be exciting here in a few hours, guys.
It really, really will be.
And there's nothing more exciting than for us to be on here with you guys on Saturday.
Tim Grover, you've been kind of keeping your fingers on the pulse of what Dolph and Polak have been saying, and the general buzz there in eastern Iowa.
What's the zeitgeist attitude among the Hawkeye fans?
It is a rivalry.
And boy, Iowa State is talking a lot of smack on Facebook.
I've got a lot of Cyclone fans crowing right now.
Are they going to be eating that crow by the end of the game, Grover?
Yeah, again, I think the quarterback edge is going to go to Iowa with a very intelligent young man.
with McNamara.
I'm very, very impressed with him.
I hope he has another year's eligibility with us.
That's how impressed I am with him.
But yeah, this game, I'm going to have to differ with Scott.
This game doesn't need to go away.
This game is Iowa pride through and through.
And it's a friendly rivalry.
We need more of this.
We do not have professional sports where you can like in New York or Chicago where
Your teams can play each other in baseball or something, and you can have friends show up in two different jerseys.
So this really is our only opportunity.
Yeah, you've got other Psyhawk events in the season, but it's not the fact that you have a football because you can have a lot of people show up in good weather for that.
So I would say Kirk
winning this 200th win against the Cyclones would be a very, very legendary win for Iowa.
And I think that's going to inspire the players a lot.
And that story, and I'm going to go off subject a little bit here.
You got Aaron Rodgers' first home game with the New York Jets on 9-11 Monday night.
I think there will be two of the biggest stories in football, period, this weekend, if Kirk can get number 200 against the Cyclones and
than the 9-11 home debut for Aaron Rodgers Monday night.
We got a very exciting football weekend going on.
And Tim, don't
forget, since we don't have the Sunday games yet, Patrick Mahomes is the NFL's interception leader among quarterbacks.
Yeah, and some of that, that one was a pretty clean pick six.
there on Thursday night, but there was some of the announcers were kind of blaming the receivers and some of those balls were thrown behind them.
And yeah, you could probably catch them, but you know, the Lions have that Hutchison fellow from Michigan and he runs all over the field, you know.
And if I had a ball throw, if I'm over the middle, I got a ball thrown behind me.
I wouldn't want to try and double back because he might be there.
And that's that would
scare me.
If you're in Iowa, tight end, Kirk Turner knows how to get those tight ends into the NFL to sign for some nice contracts.
Yeah, it's like he says, you know, we run plays to them.
Most of the systems don't anymore.
Hey, John, here's a fun fact for you.
I didn't know until I was watching Fox Business the other day.
Do you remember the name Matt Whitaker?
Wasn't he, he was in trust deal and one of his staff.
He's a former Iowa tight end
attorney general.
Yeah.
I remember Matt as a tight end.
I remember Jim Zopp will call in his number.
And Matt also ran for Senate.
I was able to preside over one of the Senate debates, Joni, Sam Clovis, Matt Whitaker kind of being the top tier there.
Yeah, Matt was actually interim attorney general there under President Trump.
And I think he's essentially going to be
uh... trump's guide uh... today in jack trice stadium but that's a solid guy there's still talk of matt are possibly running for off the statewide it'll be very interesting but yeah mat is still solid as a rocker granted if you look at today
that's figure two million literally
yeah he is he he literally is and so yet you know i will
Iowa football players or each an Iowa audience can be proud.
So many people said, Tim Grover, that had Nile Kinick lived, he would have been governor or senator or perhaps even president.
He had such charisma and intellect.
And you look at the great judge, Duke Slater from Iowa, one of the first African-American judges there in Chicago.
and the great dignity and brilliance.
And one of the last D1 athletes played without a helmet on the football field.
Couldn't afford shoes even when he played for Clinton High School.
Not far from you.
We got a lot to be proud about, Tim Grover.
And don't get Jack Trice.
The United States African-American gridiron player who died playing on the field when it was a much more violent game.
Hawkeyes, in cyclones, we never let the memories of those gone before us perish.
Tim, we keep them alive and we thrive on their example and their inspiration, don't we, Jim?
Even here in eastern Iowa, there's still a good cyclone constituency here in eastern Iowa, too.
Several of our farmers are Iowa State graduates.
And especially around here, north of Clinton, you have Preston.
The fear box, they go way back in Iowa State history.
The grandpa was a Iowa State star athlete in the 30s.
And of course, related to that is one of their offspring, Al Fierback, had won two silver medals in the 70s in the shot foot in the Olympics.
So there is quite a heritage here in eastern Iowa too.
It's not just all Hawke country.
in eastern Iowa so that's why this game is very very important for the culture of Iowa and we need to keep having it every year because
So
Tim, we examine what's great about living with Iowa because of this game.
Tim, so you had mentioned that it's going to be, and I think you're right, Iowa State has a good defense.
We all know about Phil Parker's defense at, excuse me, Iowa State has a good defense.
We know about Phil Parker at Iowa and how good those defenses are.
We're expecting a low score game.
I don't think I ever caught a score from you, a prediction.
Oh, I
agree with you guys.
As I say, I don't break it down that far as far as the score.
So, yeah, I would say 21-17 with the edge going to Hawkeye.
So, that's just enough scoring without, you know, six to three games.
That's not enough offense and, you know, we don't want 45 to 40.
Yeah, it's track meet offense, so we don't want that either.
And
I know Scott, if Scott Corey was with us, he'd probably say 28 to 10 or five or something like that for Iowa.
He'd be pretty lean and pretty hard that way.
Okay, maybe not
five.
Well, we want everybody to come back next year.
Of
course, we guys asked Mike Shane to put him on the line and see if he wants to put in a score out here and stick his neck out as he's wearing a red shirt.
That was a 230 kickoff.
We want everybody to come back at halftime.
They're lit up already.
We don't need them hanging out in the tailgate for another half.
It is a great place to watch a game when you say tailgating.
I do like the spread there.
There's a lot of room for parking.
A lot of people can mill around and have a good time.
It's a great location.
I've always felt it's better than Lincoln.
Lincoln, the parking lots are scattered around a lot.
They have a lot of fun in them.
There's at least one of them that I was referred to as the zoo that's underneath the interstate.
Because they let the university use it, but it's privately owned, part of the deal that the private owner said was, yes, you can
use it, you can make money off of it.
We are allowing alcohol in here.
You're not going to stop us from that.
So unlike the other parking lots that the university has control of, it's pretty freeform down there.
Iowa State is, I think, very similar.
It's just people are out there having a great time.
I've never been to an Iowa game.
Maybe that's on my bucket list.
I don't know what tailgating is like there.
Can you two shed some light on that as to comparing Iowa versus Iowa State tailgating?
What do you think, John?
I would say myself, it's Hillary.
Yeah, I would say I would say he's probably a little better for delegating in that it's more of a wide open area.
So, you know, you end up, I know a lot of times I used to walk in from Fink Line to get to the game because it can be broke up because of the neighborhoods around Kennecks and that, but...
Then you kind of lose that.
Kenneth kind of has that Wrigleyville field, too, by having it that way, that you don't have an Iowa State.
So I can't say which one I prefer either way.
It depends on what you like.
John, what do you think?
I think it's going to be an Iowa victory.
I think it's going to be a magnificent setting.
And I think Kate McNamara will be the difference, although
Brian Ferris' play calling always terrifies me.
He's very good at scripting the first couple of drives, which is why I believe if the Hawkeyes can score on one of the first two drives, they win.
If not, I'm a little worried.
That's probably about the
right way.
I
think Mayor Wonka's check-offs good, though, too, John.
I'm just watching his interviews.
I'm very impressed with his football mind.
I think he'll check off on some things that he doesn't.
See what they like from that.
So I think he's real sharper that way.
Well, I wonder if Matt Campbell is going to be starting getting on the hot seat.
I think this game is important to him from the Iowa State perspective.
He doesn't have the 200 game situation hanging over the team.
But he's got to start producing.
He's got a losing record with this series right now.
And he's got to start improving.
He's gone downhill the last two or three years.
And I think there's going to be some pressure on him to try and improve, despite all the jokes we make about every time someone's fired that maybe Matt Campbell's up for the job.
I think that situation is kind of dissipated a lot now because he has not lived up to the hype that he did his first couple of seasons.
Tim, have you got any observations about that?
I haven't heard much out here about that, but I can see where he's probably running into a recruiting problem, because you've got to, I believe, rules are going to bring Nebraska back to a winning program.
And he's definitely going to be a competition for, of course, everybody's in the competition because of NIL.
But as far as running the programs, I think Nebraska is the strongest it's been in years as far as recruiting.
And of course, we got Illinois on the other side.
with a strong program getting built there.
I think by the time you're looking at some of these kids, are they going to choose where they go to play?
I think he's got a tight market to try and find a hole in there.
I think he's suffering from that a little bit.
We got to remember, Brock Purdy is going to be starting for the Niners.
He's not even making a million a year.
Purdy was quite an accomplishment for Campbell.
Yes, he was.
He had a great career when he played at Iowa State.
And we're here with George Ogle from Legacy Homes, excellent building contractor in the Ottawa, Olathe, Kansas City area.
And George is a great community servant, Scott Corey, and he's been very integral.
in the construction and opening of in Ottawa there the Oxford house there are many Oxford houses in Kansas and across the United States and they've been so instrumental in helping those dealing with drug and alcohol addiction and those dealing with homelessness we salute folks like George Ogle George welcome to the program today
How you doing, John?
Great, George.
George, talk a little bit about this project.
You've got one there in Ottawa.
This really builds hope for people across the plains, doesn't it?
This Oxford house is a Benz Oxford house.
I bought the house in last April, and then we opened it this last May.
So a year and a month.
from the time I purchased the house and redid it to be able to open it.
The first one in Ottawa, I've already purchased another one and we're going to try to do a women's house and we want to get people to know about it so we need to build up.
This is really excellent for folks that don't know the term Oxford House refers to any house operating under the Oxford House model.
It's Scott's community-based approach to addiction recovery.
It provides independent, supportive, and sober living environments.
Today, there are nearly 3,000 Oxford houses.
in the United States and in other countries.
And George, I'm curious, we understand that there are three rules upon which each house is based.
No use of drugs or alcohol and no disruption.
The house must be run democratically and they must pair the equal expense shared cost of any fees.
So for instance, they divide up utility costs.
Is that a good explanation for how the model runs?
Correct.
This is not a state run program or a city or county or anything other than the people living there.
It's done off replication.
This is not people using, this is people that have been clean for, I believe it's 30 days and then they actually interview with the other people living there.
And the other people living there decide whether or not they feel that that person living in the same house as them would be safe for them.
to avoid relapse and confrontation.
And it's not just those staying off drugs and alcohol.
They're taught, they have weekly meetings and monthly meetings with the each house and the chapters, which is three houses or more in a hundred mile radius.
And they learn how to budget, they learn how to listen and talk and make decisions that are better than the ones they've been making previously.
Well this is excellent, that idea.
Scott, financial literacy and budgeting and of course what makes these types of things affordable is people like George Ogle from Legacy Homes who can get a structure built literally to house this kind of excellent operation.
George, I know you're a great builder.
You built that beautiful church that we drove by in Ottawa and I love this business meeting model, Scott.
They have business meetings weekly.
They're mandatory and they discuss any issues of the house that may be facing.
Scott, this is a nice model.
And can you believe that it was, uh, the first one was open in Silver Springs, Maryland in 1975 by Paul Malloy.
He had been a Senate committee staff member in the late sixties and early seventies.
And he sought treatment for his alcoholism.
in a halfway house in 1975 then later that year the halfway house had to close due to financial difficulty and Maloy and the other residents took over the lease
They chose the name Oxford House in recognition of Oxford Group, a religious organization that influenced the founders of AA.
Sounds like a great model, Scott.
Any questions or comments for George Ogle of Ottawa?
You know, George, talk to us just a little bit.
How did you get involved with this group?
And also, you know, in the last few years in society, we're seeing that more of the stigma of people that are suffering from mental illness or addiction.
It's more common to talk about
at now where they're not so much in the shadows anymore, but as a society, we're dealing more and more with it.
I'd like to get your thoughts on both of those.
Well, I personally never had the opportunity to live in an Oxford house, but I did have the addiction problem myself years ago.
And after getting clean and getting my life together, I went to Narcotics Anonymous.
And while there,
You know, we see a lot of people come in and out of the rooms and a lot of people stayed in Oxford houses and watching their growth out, outdid the growth of the people who were not in Oxford houses.
Not always, but the percentage of length of recovery seemed to be quite a bit more for people who had that help from Oxford.
And talk just just a little bit too about the stigma, too.
Because like I mentioned, you know, in the 70s and 80s, it was kind of a black eye, so to speak, on that family and on that person if they were suffering from addiction.
But now we are more willing to talk about it as a society and make sure that these people get help when they are, you know, basically trying to be pillars of society in their own way.
Yeah, the black sheep and all that until people realize that everybody knows somebody addicted to drugs.
or come in contact with them.
It's just us, everybody being honest with themselves that we have a problem.
And especially with the homeless problem, homeless, I mean, people get homeless, they're, they're, they're beat down.
They just, drugs and alcohol is just a given.
and people don't know what else to do.
So they turn to drugs and alcohol and then they haven't had a way to get out of it.
An Oxford house provides that.
It's not somebody, a probation officer or a parole officer over there standing over them or telling them they're worthless all the time.
They get into a new living environment, a safe living environment where they don't have to worry about somebody knocking on the door and trying to get them to do something wrong.
Everybody looks out for each other.
Any two members, if they think another member has used alcohol or drugs, can give them a urine test on the spot.
And if they test dirty, they have one hour to leave the house.
And that's law enforcement will help that happen.
So it's a very safe environment.
And yeah, I mean, people that still act like it didn't happen, I feel sorry for them.
Yeah, exactly.
Here with George Ogil, OGLE,
Ottawa, Kansas, Oxford House, uh, builder and George, I'm going to second your, uh, notion there.
I think Scott and, and Mike, everybody has an aspect of an addictive personality as a recovering elected politician.
Scotty, I can tell you, I was surrounded by people.
If they weren't addicted to drugs and alcohol, they were addicted to power or fame or money.
or women, you name it.
There is that element.
It's just part of the human
condition, Scott.
It sure is.
And, you know, John, it's very heartening, too, that we're seeing people like George step up and actually fill the void where, like you mentioned earlier, that the government-assisted agents and things like that just cannot fill that void in our communities.
And George, talk to us real quickly, too.
What is the best way if somebody wants to get involved with your program?
Is there a website or a telephone number they can reach out to?
There's a group called FORA, F-O-R-A, Friends of Recovery Association, I think.
DJ is, I can't remember his title, but he, they help open Oxford houses across the immediate area.
And they help put the chapters with the new houses and things like that.
They help find furniture.
They're a nonprofit that do a lot to keep the,
Oxford houses going and opening and replicating
here with George.
Ogle.
You know, Scott, what I love about this as we wrap up here, this first segment with George is that all houses are run on a democratic basis.
You've got officers who are elected.
You have regular business meetings.
All decisions are made based upon a vote by all the members of the House.
You've got oftentimes elected positions within the House, such as a president and a treasurer, a comptroller, a
Char coordinator and a secretary.
And of course, paying the bills and doing the chores.
George, I love that business meeting operation.
It's almost like they're running a small business out of the home there.
Correct.
They learn a lot of things.
They learn how to be accountable to one another and to manage other people.
And like I said in the ribbon cutting to this other one, we need to not
turn our backs on them or look at them.
When people drive by the house and you see somebody coming in or out of the house, say hi to them, help them, you know, partner with them on things.
I myself was addicted to drugs for about eight years and I've come out the other side smelling pretty great because I had good health.
I didn't have an Oxford house.
If I'd had the Oxford house, I think I would have probably done better a lot earlier.
George, we're going to give you the last word here.
You're a stand-up guy for joining us on our segment.
Last word before we go to our break.
I just want people to know.
The house now, I think, has three people in it.
It can hold eight.
And like I said, hopefully by the first of the year, we get a Wimps house open, and it also will house eight women.
So if you know anybody, just get with
us.
Guys, our salute to George Ogle of Legacy Homes,
O-G-L-E.
Well, folks, we'd like to thank you for listening in to KXEL and the Jacobsom Group.
on 1540 and 100.5.
We've had a great time talking here about the upcoming game with John Jacobson and Tim Grover.
Thank you, Mike Shane, for your managing the console and keeping us all straight.
And of course, Barb Hames, of Hames Homes, our sponsor.
We appreciate her time with us.
and tell us about her great product of homes, the great development she has.
So thank you very much, folks.
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