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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Aug 21, 2023
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our exclusive fifty minute interview with democratic presidential candidate scion of the most famous
First Family American Politics, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Esquire, Scotty, tremendous newsmaking that we did with that series of interviews.
Only Tucker Carlson got an hour alongside us with Bobby Kennedy Jr.
We're in the pivot seat for newsmaking and Scott, a lot of news this week also on the Hawkeye Front.
Good grief Tim Grover and Scott.
We've got 30,000 counting folks that have grabbed tickets for an outdoor practice of the Iowa women's team and they have sold out the entire season.
at carver scottie
you know john you talk about as we move in through august you know wrapping up the state fair this weekend and also getting ready for football and uh season is just right around the corner but it has been nothing but katelyn clark's world and we're just living in as you had mentioned uh this week it was announced that the carver hawkeye arena for the first time ever the entire season has been sold out for the iowa women's basketball program 15 000 plus seats are now uh taken up by our fans and now
on Thursday afternoon or Thursday morning, I should say, Interim Athletic Director, Beth Gatz, announced that over 30,000 plus tickets have been sold for crossover at Kinnick, which will be played in October against DePaul.
And it's just amazing, Tim Grover, what is going on?
It is Lisa Bluter's world with Caitlin Clark riding shotgun, and it is amazing.
Yeah, I quite agree, Scotty.
I like Collie Jeffleix from Lisa Bluter's standpoint.
I see some really great things coming on here.
I watched Yes's pressers this weekend.
I was very, very impressed.
I think she went in already and did some things that weren't being listened to from the fan base.
And I think she related well to the press.
And I think we're off to a good fall start here for Hawkeye Sports.
You know, I found it was very interesting that in her opening remarks, Beth went out of her way to mention that she is talking regularly with Brad Hendricks, the head of the Iowa Swarm Collective, the NIL, and that it was been reported on several interviews that Brad did that he had not had any conversations with Gary Bartow, the former Iowa Athletic Director, because Bartow would not return his emails or phone calls.
But Beth understands what is going on in sports world right now, and you have to have the university working
arm and arm with the collectives moving forward.
So that was a breath of fresh air.
Another thing I really liked about her pressure, she talked about it as expanding on NIL and that in keeping athletics as an academic exercise and that possibly there may be more compensation for everybody, all the athletes, which has been something I've advocated with for years.
because her and Kirk expressed this too.
There's too much advertising about gambling and they believe this is, we're talking about young people here.
You dangle it out in front of them, they're gonna abuse it.
Here with our special guest, Tim Grover.
Tim, we've got a minute and a half here before we roll into our interview with Bobby Kidney Jr.
I want your take.
You're the one that gave us on the text thread the information that Beth Getz and her presser said,
Brian Farance reports directly to me.
That sends a signal, doesn't it, Tim?
Yeah, that's how I understood it.
It was a little hard to hear the reporter's question.
So I'm assuming when she said Brian reports directly to me, I'm going to guess he was talking about Brian.
I didn't know who else was involved in the conversation, which is a significant thing because Kirk probably shouldn't be as supervised because of nepotism.
So I think that's significant.
You know, John, what I really appreciated about her comments and the athletic director role at Iowa is she kind of used a Hayden Fry phrase talking about progress and she's never going to have a make sure the shovels are always in the ground.
And so it's very exciting to see what the athletic department is going to look like moving forward.
And I hope that come spring, she is the new athletic director at the University of Iowa.
And come fall, we're going to be your pre pre game tailgate party on KXEL 15
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Hawkeye Football First, you will hear it here.
Stand by for our interview with Democrat President candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
up now.
Going out right now, the Iowa State Fair, our Saturday Part 1 exclusive conversation with Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Here we go!
Let's roll!
Mr. Kennedy, you are all Iowan with
your
drumstick at the fair.
I'll tell you what, I am looking for some fried bacon and maybe some fried butter.
I've heard about it, haven't seen it yet.
But this is my comfort food.
You had a great crowd here today.
I think it was the largest gathering at the State Fair.
Des Moines is not even the biggest metro area.
The Omaha County Post Office area is.
You had there tomorrow.
Many people have fond memories of your father there from the 68 campaign.
Yeah, my father.
You know, my father spoke at Great University.
and then gave a pretty famous speech in Omaha.
He got an extraordinary reception,
really, it was at a time when his campaign was really starting to take it off.
He
won that Nebraska primary, a huge victory.
He won South Dakota, but he went on the Wabash Cannonball.
He did?
The train ride?
Yeah, the train ride, all over the Midwest.
But Nebraska was a huge turning point for
him.
It was.
And it showed that with Bobby seeing your winning California on the heels of Nebraska and then that same night, South Dakota, you've talked about the terrible level of toxicity and how you can bridge that.
Your father bridged that.
How can you do that?
Well, I think we got to start by telling people the truth.
I think the reason that people are at each other's throats is like, if you've got a family and the parents are dysfunctional in their line for the kids, everybody is going to be dysfunctional and at each other's throats.
And I think that that's what's happening in our country.
You've told the truth and you've been vindicated.
You were right as the COVID data is coming out.
You were right about everything.
Fauci was wrong.
Not even the Republicans stood up to Fauciism and what happened there.
And the lockdown was debilitating the Maya constituents.
It was destructive.
You've seen that nationwide, especially on the poor, the African-American, and the children in our communities.
Yeah, the lockdowns cost us $16 trillion.
And we got nothing for it.
You know, the countries and the states that did heavy lockdowns, fair to worse.
We shifted $4 trillion from the poor to the super rich, and the middle class, to the super rich.
We created a billionaire a day during the lockdown, so 500 new billionaires.
And we shut down Main Street.
This country, 3.3 million businesses.
And we taught people instead, you know, to shop at Amazon.
It was terrible for our country and as you say, the kids suffered the worst.
The suicide is now the biggest cause of death for black children.
IQ and toddlers dropped by 22% according to the Brown University study and you know, American kids who were in elementary school are going to require
remedial education for the rest of their academic careers.
Oh, you know, it was really punishing for our children.
And by the way, it didn't help us.
We ended up with the highest COVID death rate on Earth.
We had, we have only 4.2% of the global population, but we had 16% of the COVID deaths.
So that's not a success story.
The lockdowns were a failure.
In the censorship, I will tell you that so many were censored for telling the truth, you were censored for telling the truth, and you've tied that in with this corporate stranglehold with the government, with industry, this corporate cronyism, the very people who were shutting you and me down with our speech, although we enrounded it through the legislature and AM radio, but it was tough.
Those same people were the ones benefiting from the lockdown.
Yeah, exactly.
The very companies that were censoring criticism of the lockdowns were making billions on it.
Facebook, Google, Bloomberg, Twitter, you know, ended up doing it, participating in the censorship itself.
And the people, these Titan, you know, these social media Titans who came into the lockdown with a billion dollars increased their wealth on average by 30%.
And they did it by shutting down those of us who were saying, wait a minute, you know, this lockdown is not working.
You spoke beautifully today in front of the crowd about conserving our resources.
You talked about these pipelines, the carbon capture pipeline.
You have had the transcendence as a statesman to rightly point out that God speaks to us in various vectors.
One of those is through his beautiful creation.
It's a tapestry.
He's woven in your own words.
And we're pulling those threads.
We can find God in the arts and religion and culture.
Nothing, though, imitates nature.
And when we deprive ourselves of that, we're depriving ourselves of touching the divine, aren't we?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You know, God talks through all of these, you know, through organized religion, through the great books of those religions, through wise people of prophets, and through art and literature and music and poetry, but nowhere with the texture and detail and grace and joy is through creation.
And when we destroy that, we destroy part of our capacity to sense the divine.
Also, you know, nature connects us to art.
to our history, to our culture.
It gives context to our communities.
It's the source ultimately of our values, our virtues, our characters and people.
It's the American democracy.
Frederick Jackson Turner was our greatest American historian.
And that American democracy came out of the wilderness without the forest and the farms.
You know, American democracy simply wouldn't have evolved the way that the institutions did.
You've rightly said nature is our safety net.
It's also politically a social saving net during the Great Depression.
10,000 men went down to the Hudson River who were unemployed and they caught fish, they grabbed, they caught shrimp.
They fed themselves, in some cases they were marketing those products for their family and feeding their families.
And today, if that happened, you know, the fish are now loaded with
toxic PCBs you're not allowed to sell them the market anymore, so we've destroyed the social safety net and You know that's not a good plan
for our country You've said there's so much distrust in America when your uncle when your uncle was
taken from us, 80% of the American people trusted government, not only 20%, trust the government media.
Many, including me, think the government is lying to us about Ukraine.
A lot of people in Iowa, especially Western Iowa, don't want this conflagration in the Ukraine.
What are your thoughts on the Ukraine war situation?
The Ukraine war is a war...
I'm not apologizing for Vladimir Putin.
His invasion was illegal.
It was brutal.
He had other options, but we have to understand that the U.S.
has deliberately, the people in the White House, the neocons, Victoria Newland, Anthony Blinken, April Hanks, had deliberately provoked that war.
They wanted that war on two occasions.
In 2019, when Vladimir Zelensky tried to sign the Minsk Accords and settle the war, we torpedoed that.
And then again, in April of 2022, he initialed a peace agreement with Putin a month before in March of 2022, and we sent our White House.
sent Boris Johnson over there to torpedo that agreement, to sabotage it, because we wanted the war.
That month, Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense, was asked, why are we in Ukraine?
Why is the U.S.?
And he was honest.
He said, we're there to degrade, to exhaust the Russian Army into greatest capacity to fight any place in the world.
And, you know, and President Biden said,
We're there to do regime change in Russia.
They want to balkanize Russia, and you know, that's not good for Ukraine.
That is not, you know, my son fought in Ukraine.
Many of the people that he fought with are now dead.
There's 350,000 kids.
Ukrainian kids who have died who are being, you know, fed into this abattoir of death.
And there's 50,000 Russians who have died, kids.
And 50,000 parents, mothers who have bereaved.
And, you know, it is not... It's a war we can't win.
We were lied to about every aspect of this war.
It's a war we're being lied to about the casualty counts.
And we're being lied about the long history of U.S.
provocation that got Russia to this point of moving NATO right to the borders, of putting Aegis missile systems, nuclear cable missile systems on their border.
of walking away unilaterally from the two nuclear, intermediate nuclear weapons treaties that we signed with the Russians.
And all of those are provocations that Russians warned again and again and again.
We cannot take NATO intrusion into Ukraine.
We've been invaded three times through Ukraine.
And we're not going to do that.
It would be like the Russians putting nuclear weapons systems.
In Cuba, we know what my uncle had to do there.
I was at the library on Christmas Eve.
I was in your father's office on Christmas Eve and Jack and your your your father
did not let Cigar Chomp and Curtis LeMay from Omaha, from Stratcom, roll him, and during COVID, maybe even the good intentions of our president then, maybe got rolled by Fauci and Berks of the establishment.
Are you the person who can stand up to that bureaucracy?
You know about this agency capture.
You've been the most successful American trial lawyer in decades in conservation law work, public interest work.
Yeah, and you know, that's why I feel...
You know, I've spent four years suing these agencies, and I understand how to unravel the capture of the agencies.
And I think most presidents, when they get in there, probably mean well, but they get intimidated by an agency like the CIA.
There's 24,000 people or NIH, you know, HHS was just, you know, 80,000 employees.
They don't know how to reform it.
They know that at every level of that agency, there's bureaucrats who can commit civil disobediences and embarrass the president.
They bring in people who are safe to run the agencies, who won't rock the boat.
It's usually somebody from the industry, somebody who, in Ralph Freese's book, gets the joke.
And, you know, I get the joke, but I don't think it's funny.
I think it's... I understand what we need to do.
I understand.
In many cases, an EPA and CDC, particulate individuals who need to be moved in order to bring that agency out of this kind of predatory mode against the American people and back to serving the public interest, our public health, the environment, etc.
You know, when I sued Monsanto.
Very successfully, and that was the first of many.
Boy, it was one of many, but it wasn't the first.
You know, I brought over 500 laws, successful laws, and those cases were in 2019, the three big nobosanto cases, but one of the things we found in that case during the discovery process was that the head of the pesticide division for a decade at EPA, a guy called Jess Rowland,
was actually secretly working for Monsanto the whole time, sabotaging the studies about the carcinogenicity of glyphosate, you know, the main ingredient, the active ingredient of Roundup.
He was protecting, he was not working for the American people, although we were paying him.
He was instead working for Monsanto, and unfortunately,
If you look throughout the agencies that people are running CDC are working for the pharmaceutical companies, not the American people.
It's not just vaccines.
It's everything.
FDA is almost half its budget from pharma.
Of course there's conflicts.
It's like agency capture on steroids.
see how this agency created the opioid crisis that kills now, you know, 106,000 American kids last year while it was created by the FDA.
Who told everybody in the country that opioid, that oxycodone, made by the Sacklers, and J&J, and these companies is not addictive, that it's safe and effective, and doctors should give it out like candy.
And that, you know, has resulted today.
So Mr. Kennedy in Iowa,
We have a Republican trifecta, governor, House and Senate.
And yet the Iowa Board of Medicine, during COVID, went after the 12 heroic doctors of conscience, started investigating them, threatening them with perhaps licensure action, precisely because they had the best save record of anybody in the state.
They were punished.
Where does this come from?
Are the boards being affected by national... Yeah,
the medical boards.
Unfortunately, our controlled by the medical cartel, which itself is controlled by the pharmaceutical industry, so they're not protecting public health.
And when I'm president, I'm going to file racketeering cases against those boards and make sure that doctors are actually able to practice medicine like they've done since the apocrates.
That will resonate in Iowa.
There are many people furious about that.
There should not be agents of state power.
They should be, look, their single concern should be their patients.
And they should make medical decisions on their patients.
And if they're not good at it, the patient can find another doctor, but the state should not get involved.
Hey, a personal note.
One of the greatest movies since it's a wonderful life with Jimmy Stewart, Cheryl starred in a gem called Henry Poole is here.
about a man contemplating suicide, who is revolutionized into taking a new look at life.
And Cheryl played a critical role in that movie.
It's a beautiful gem.
What is it like having her supportive and at your side?
Granted, not every family agrees with everything.
Just ask the loving, gracious Mrs. Jacobson.
But you seem to have a way of
pulling people together from all sides of the spectrum.
And on my family, I've got a Bernie Sanders fan, and a Rand Paul fan, and old JFK Democrats.
They're all willing to register and vote for you in the caucuses.
Yeah, well, she's definitely going to vote for me, so I'm happy about that.
She's the centerpiece of my life.
You know, I couldn't do this campaign without her without her support without her love and She's been there for me every step of the way.
So I'm I'm grateful.
She's also the funniest person.
I know she'll be the funniest First lady that we've had in history and people aren't gonna fall in love with her.
I agree.
We we look forward to Omaha council bless
Western Iowa, it's going to give you a great welcome on the remainder of your trip.
Thanks for taking time with us today on Walnut Media, on Boomer Media, on Bluffs Country, on KCR on the KXEL, the Five Networks, 11 Outlets.
Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.
Thank you so
much,
John.
Amazing interview.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Safe travels.
Godspeed.
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John Jacobson here with Scott Curry, Sam Jones, Jen
Bowen, and Nick Burris.
Well, you've heard Robert Kennedy two exclusive interviews from this news source.
The only ones in the country that lay claim to that at State Fair Presidential Cavalcade Week in Du Bois.
One who attended and shouted along with me.
The RFK Junior campaign, our frequent contributor, Dr. David Hartsich M.D.
Doc, you talked to Bobby, you talked to Dennis Kucinich, campaign manager, Congressman.
What were your takeaways of the Kennedy event?
He had a large crowd at the soapbox.
Oh, he had a tremendous crowd at the soapbox, and then later on, at the Smoky Cafe, he must have had another 150 people there that was packed.
In fact, they could barely get in.
And I think my takeaway from this whole thing is that Robert F. Kennedy is what I call a neo-progressive, not to be confused with what they call progressivism currently in the Democrat Party.
But if you take a look back in the trust-busting days where the politicians on both sides of the aisle were focused on reducing corruption,
That was the heyday of progressives.
And I think this is what I think Robert F. Kennedy is a movement Democrat with a new progressive message.
And I think people should listen to him on both sides of the aisle.
Whether you're a Republican Democrat, I can tell you there are a lot of Republicans there too that are concerned about
the deterioration of our republic and the infiltration of big business into government and also the corruption of business itself.
These are things that we rely upon as a society and I think his message is right on target.
I was very impressed with what he said.
Scott Corey, I think it's great to get Hartzich's vantage point here.
Doc, he said
He would sue the boards of medicine for racketeering 30 seconds your quick take away from that
Well, I certainly need to be that that certainly needs to happen because they're they're racketeering They're using any Federation state medical boards, which is a private organization Created by government the government agencies in order to get around the Constitution of the federal and the state and I think that time has come when that is begun
I'm hoping he's able to do that.
Here with Dr. David Hartzich, guys.
Doc, thanks for joining us.
And it was great to see you this weekend.
Sure was, Sam.
John Jacobson back with you here in Studer Studios in Council Bluffs.
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We are back with the man of the weekend.
I think everybody in Iowa is saying it was Bobby Kennedy's weekend.
He had a triumphant foray into Iowa, the caucus state, at the Iowa State Fair, and I was there on Saturday.
And Mr. Kennedy, you outdrew everybody else there.
You outdrew Vivek.
You outdrew Ron DeSantis.
Uh, president Trump was trolling him with, with Trump force one.
They didn't troll you.
You didn't have hecklers.
There was some vicious, uh, anti-va vape heckling going on.
You had a huge crowd and today big turnouts in Logan and council bluffs last night, standing room only in Des Moines.
I think you guys are resonating.
Uh, we were told, uh, uh, by a newspaper editor that who's been covering, um,
political campaigns for
34 years.
In
Iowa, the kind of crowds that we're getting are comparable to the crowds that Obama got, that Bernie got in the last week before the caucuses.
Really large, enthusiastic crowds.
I'm very, very happy.
I'm anxious to come back.
That is true.
I covered those, and there's clearly resonance there.
Mr. Kennedy, I want to ask you this.
They call you Bobby.
Your family, there's such an affective element, a connection of bondedness with the Kennedy family and the American people that perduers multiple generations.
Perhaps it's that you folks have bled so much and given so much to our country, but they say President Trump, Governor DeSantis, but it's still Jack and Bobby and Teddy.
What is that connective sinew emotionally, that affective bond that you guys have with the American people?
I don't know.
For me, they're just my family.
It's hard to put my finger on the residents.
I think that they had an idealistic view of this nation that they represented.
a commitment to excellence, a commitment to all
of
the values that are real, a genuine belief, and the values that our country represented.
They wanted our country to be an exemplary nation.
They
wanted
us to be a moral authority around the world.
And I think a lot of Americans also shared those beliefs and saw their genuineness.
And I think that probably explains at least part of it, John.
Here with Mr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
JD Esquire one of our nation's most successful trial attorneys in your Speech in Boston that kicked off the campaign You talked about the early days in your law career working to clean up the Hudson River and how you brought people together to overcome some of the agency capture and some of the cronyism between the government and
the agencies and industry that still pruders today, not just with environmental issues, but in the medical and the military industrial complex arena.
And you've said that we can't just be neocon bobbleheads.
I thought that was a great, great line.
And you said that we've got to get beyond fear and war and censorship and disease and
You believe that you've got the ability, because of your background, to do what President Trump couldn't do, drain the swamp.
You have an ability to speak truth to power and to stand up and say no to the bureaucrats, just as your father and uncle did, going back even to the missile crisis that had everybody in Omaha next door rattled as we were on the precipice of that crisis.
Well, you know, my career, I think, has been, I've been 40 years in the trenches litigating against big polluters, the military industrial complex, and powerful entities that are part of this corrupt merger of state more corporate power, which has strip, which is systematically strip-mining the American middle class as well, its equity of our democratic values.
I probably have bought over more than 500 cases against environmental polluters.
About 20% of those cases were against the EPA.
And I've litigated all those O against USDA.
USDA was created to support
family
farmers and to support and
to fortify our
commitment to hold some foods for America there.
actual function today is exactly the opposite of that.
They become the sock puppets for, you know, the big packers or ADM for cargo for Smithfield Foods, which is a Chinese company.
And they're not, they're doing almost everything in their power to undermine the small farmers.
I'm litigating rights now and
representing a thousand families in Columbia County, Ohio.
and in western Pennsylvania and western West Virginia, whose
lives were
upended by the Norfolk Southern spill.
That also was a product of agency capture.
The train did not have working sensors on its wheels, heat sensors.
Those sensors should have been required, but the agency was overwhelmed by the political clout of the railroad industry.
which wanted to save a few bucks by avoiding those sensors.
You know, we know now from the discovery that we've done in that case that that that wheel was on
fire
for 20 miles.
The
way that we know
that is we got a hold of the doorbell ringers along the route and you can see the fire growing and growing and growing.
Well, the engineer didn't know about it.
If we had those sensors
He would
have known
about it, and he would have stopped the train.
Instead, the car caught on fire, the box car caught on fire, the car behind it caught on fire.
And ultimately, the train just derailed right in a town, a
beautiful town that is now a
wrecked community.
And all of these things happened because agency captured.
The CIA, of course, is captured by the military industrial complex.
My uncle recognized that.
Amen.
After only months in office that their function was not to protect the American public, but their function had devolved Into providing
a
constant pipeline of new wars to serve the military contractors, you know Mitch McConnell was he was recently asked about Ukraine war Ukraine war we've we committed 113 billion President Biden is now asking for 40 billion more But to support that war meanwhile
57% of Americans cannot put their hands on $1,000 if they have an emergency.
Exactly.
We've cut food stamps by 90% to 30 million Americans, $23 bucks a month.
We're cutting $15 million for Medicare.
We all did this all in large.
The same month that we upended our commitment to Ukraine at $113 billion, our total
EPA budget
is
12 billion the budget for CDC is 12 billion We are borrowing six billion dollars a day from the Chinese to pay for this war Mitch McConnell was asked, you know about can we actually afford to do this and he said well, don't worry about it Because the war the that money is not actually staying in the Ukraine.
It's coming back to Miller US military contractors like General Dynamics Raytheon
Lockheed and Boeing all of those contractors are owned by
by
three big companies, which are which are BlackRock State Street and Vanguard, which own 88% of the S&P 500.
Yep.
Oh, you know what we're doing is we're strip-mining wealth from the American public
In order
to finance these trillion dollar, you know entities
right here in Iowa, you have a proposal right now with three giant pipelines.
Oh, I'm glad you're
hitting this because the local farmers, well statewide, they're furious about the sort of Damocles of eminent domain hanging over this project.
I really am glad you segwayed into that.
You've been the best of all of our presidential candidates here in Iowa, leading off and talking about it.
It's resonating.
with the rank-and-file ag families talk about them
is i mean it is an insane project and you know the total cost the three companies that you know the companies are are uh... the pipelines are wolf which is an eighty m company and that's the and then uh... bruce ratz setters company which is summit and then uh... the third company is navigator which of course is owned by black rock and uh... and
Those companies, those big CEOs have been pouring huge contributions into the leadership of this state of Iowa to Greece.
This is for this project.
The project is allowed.
It was created by President Trump in 2019 and 2020, a special tax credit.
And
then it
was enlarged enormously by President Biden's infrastructure program.
So you're both presidents that are responsible for this boondoggle.
It's only a boondoggle.
It's a carbon capture pipeline that is supposed to capture the carbon, this very pure form of carbon, at the ethanol plants in Iowa.
And then two of the pipelines are bringing that...
down to supposedly for deep well injection in southern Illinois in the oil fields in southern Illinois.
The navigator pipe is bringing it north to North Dakota to the Bakken crew to supposedly bury it in the deep geology below the Bakken crew.
We know and it supposedly then it stays there forever, but I've seen these one after the other that they leak.
and that they're hideously dangerous.
They poison the water supply.
They actually can kill human beings when that CO2 escapes.
And in Sardash in Mississippi in 2020, two years ago, one of these pipes ruptured.
They rupture all the time because the carbon dioxide, when you mix it with water, becomes extremely acidic.
It poisoned an entire town.
49 people went to the hospital, many
of
those with brain damage from which they've never recovered.
The
emergency vehicles that came in to rescue
them,
the fire trucks and
the ambulances, died in their tracks because the CO2 had displaced the oxygen which the internal combustion engines needed in order to drive.
It was an absolute catastrophe.
95% of these pipes.
have been used not to bury in deep injection wells.
And this is just a canard.
It is a false front.
They do not really believe that they're going to bury this in deep injection wells.
What they're really going to use this for is to, as all of these other projects in the past have been used for, to inject under high pressure into the buck and crude oil wells that are exhausted.
and to drive more oil, the last to make those, to give those another decade or two decades of life, those oil wells.
The same in Southern Illinois.
So that is really the flim flam here.
This is what their real objective is, which is actually increasing carbon in the atmosphere.
The one pipe that they've already tried, ADM has a Southern Illinois carbon capture demo project.
And that
project is
is 45% short of its targets in capturing carbon.
The carbon it captures is less than 3% of what those plants ultimately are emitting.
And it's billions of dollars.
So this boondoggle, the environmental community has always been against carbon capture because they know it doesn't work.
They know all it does is it's used by the oil industry to fortify and to extend and to create more carbon in the atmosphere.
Whether you believe in climate change or not, this is a hoax.
And by the way, Bruce Rastatter has donated $1.6 million to the lawmakers who are fast-tracking this project.
First of all, including $163,000 since the last legislative session to Governor Wendell.
And all of these lawmakers are Republicans who
And I'm not saying that in a criticizing way.
I'm just saying there are people who have publicly said they don't believe in climate change and carbon induced climate change.
So why are they giving billions of dollars to a project for climate change?
Well, the
answer is the real
purpose of that project is not anything to do with carbon sequestration.
It's about enhancing oil production for the oil industry.
And the punchline is,
The real cost of this project, the tax, the value of those tax credits to those companies over 10 years is $106 billion.
So this is just reminding wealth from American taxpayers in order to enrich BlackRock, to enrich Bruce Radsetter, and to enrich ADM at the expense of the climate, the expense of the environment.
And probably the worst part is that they're destroying farmland, the most productive farmland in the world in Iowa.
And they're overriding sacred private property rights in this country.
Going into those communities, they're building 3,300 miles of pipeline across Iowa farms.
People of Iowa don't want it.
80% of the people in Iowa say they're against it.
46 of those counties have
filed petitions with the Iowa utility board protesting it 26 county governments have protested the senate so people in the state don't want it why is it going through since it does no environmental benefit it is opposed by all the people the answer that is money that black rock and it's subsidiaries and blues rats roose rats that are have fixed the
game
in the state they're they're giving really paltry amounts of money
to win themselves $176 billion of taxpayer money that they're stealing from us.
And they are using eminent domain.
Now, eminent domain is used, you know, you have to- You're a
constitutionalist, folks.
This is a great constitutional lawyer, and he's going to outline why this is so bad.
Oh, eminent domain, you know, private property rights are sacred under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
You
take somebody's private property without due process, without just compensation.
And the project that you take for have to have a public benefit.
In other words, it has to be a public purpose.
So
it has to be a public park that you're taking or something of that nature that all of the public is going to benefit under.
And that is really important.
This project is not for a public project.
It's for the private profit enterprise of BlackRock, Bruce Ratsetter, and ADM.
Oh, now we're setting a precedent where the government can now take your private property to make an oil company rich.
And once we establish that, you can always say a private enterprise project will benefit the public.
You can claim that oil production is a benefit to the public.
You can claim that starting a racetrack is important to the public.
You can't condemn public land to do that.
And
here we are
establishing this terrible, terrible president of taking private property, not only that, but thousands of acres of the best property, the best farmland, the most productive farmland in the world when we need the food.
And we're robbing the farmers of their farmland, of their rights in order to enrich these people who have corrupted the government of
Iowa.
I see a man here, Mr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
uh squire very similar to your father 50 some years ago when the entire establishment was for lbj and hubert humphrey and a lot of folks were in for eugene mccarthy and bobby senior started out as a true dark horse and galvanized because he spoke truth to power he was free to speak the truth
And I believe that you are our most courageous statesman with true grit out there, Mr. Kennedy, because you are resonating with Iowans on questioning this war in Ukraine, on decrying this censorship that has hit all of us and that is looking out for our sacred environmental resources and also just your love of the Constitution.
You said brilliantly that.
The Constitution was made for hard times and Iowans don't have amnesia.
This state was essentially shut down.
Our churches were closed.
Our businesses were closed.
People were fired for not taking the Myrna jab.
Some had bad reactions who took that Myrna who kept their jobs.
We had heroic doctors of conscience that had the best COVID.
curative records being persecuted by our Department of Medicine, licenses endangered, and they had far more successful protocols than the death by Remdesivir and ventilator at the hospitals.
And I believe you've said that you're going to go after these boards for racketeering that
we've got.
Objective is to return the public health agencies to actually do public health rather than, you know, advancing the power and profits of the pharmaceutical industry and the medical cartel.
And they harmed a lot of people.
You know, COVID cost our country the lockdowns, not COVID lockdowns, cost our country 16 trillion
dollars.
And anybody who says that,
well, they were just protecting the public.
And we'll look at the record, you know, we had the highest body count of any country in the world.
We have 16% of the global COVID deaths here in the United States.
And
we
only
have 4.2%
of the world's population.
So we really literally had the worst record of any nation in the world.
So that's not a success story.
That's something that we all should be explained to us.
And we should be able to debate that.
And we should be able to talk about it.
of free speech.
I said the
Constitution was written
hard time.
Well, the guarantee of free expression was not written to protect convenient and easy speech.
It was written to protect unpleasant speech and criticism of government authorities and the speech that people don't want to hear.
We know that if you ban free speech,
It is the beginning of totalitarian rule that any government that can censor its verdict has the license for any atrocity, including all the other things they did,
closing all the churches
for a year with no due process, no just compensation,
in violation also of
the First Amendment, forbidding the right to assemble petition with these social distancing rules.
In violation of the First Amendment, they got rid of the Seven Amendment Guarantee of Jury trials by giving immunity from liability, no matter how reckless or egregious these pharmaceutical companies behaved.
You couldn't sue them, no matter how terrible your injury is.
You couldn't sue them.
All of our rights, the Fourth Amendment rights to prohibitions against warrantless searches and seizures were essentially waived.
with
all the track and trace surveillance and
you
know,
there is no pandemic exemption in the United States Constitution.
Bingo.
Bingo.
Amen.
And there were the framers knew all about epidemics.
There were two epidemics during their Revolutionary War, a
malaria epidemic that
decimated the armies of Virginia, a smallpox epidemic that froze the army of
New England
at the very moment that Benedict Arnold captured Montreal.
He was shot through the thigh, but he captured the city, and he could have held it, but we didn't have the men because they were disabled by smallpox.
Otherwise, Canada today would be part of the United States, and the Framers knew that.
Between 1780, the end of the war, and nine
years later, when
they ratified the Bill of Rights,
There were epidemics in every city in America that took tens of thousands of lives.
Yellow fever, cholera, smallpox, and many others.
Well, and historian
first used all of the framers, had family members who were killed during real epidemics.
And yet they did not put an epidemic exception in the United States Constitution.
They
wrote it for hard times.
And by the way,
during
much more serious,
to our country during the American Civil War when, you know, 669,000 Americans died.
It's the equivalent of 7.2 million today,
far more
than COVID.
Okay, our country was at the verge of actually being destroyed.
President Lincoln tried to suspend the right of habeas corpus because there were confederate who were coming, confederate sympathizers, who were coming into northern cities to drum up draft riots.
and draft resistance, and they knew who they were, but they had not yet committed a crime.
They
were trying to stop them from giving the speeches, and they would take them and jail them.
Roger Taney, the Chief Justice Supreme Court, issued a decision to Lincoln saying, you can't do it.
It doesn't matter, even if the nation falls apart.
Is the Constitution is more important than anything else and there's no circumstance You can simply
to stand
the Constitution in the United States of America.
So,
you know, that should have been a
lesson for us
guys I've heard so many people say Many Republican friends as well that this cuts across all the political spectrum That Robert F. Kenny Jr.
Is the adult in the room that he's the historian in the room that he's got the gravity toss to pull people together.
I have not seen this
in my lifetime, a figure who is uniting people across the ideological spectrum.
You're resonating with core values, human values.
Your father did that and I was struck at the end note of your inaugural address there in Boston.
Give me a piece of ground and a sword and I will help you fight and take back.
this country is a beautiful poignant statesman like comment but we believe you we believe you can do this
oh i uh you know i intend to do it i love this country and i think a lot of people in my party need to be reminded about you know the constitution and um and you know that we're the we're the party that was traditionally against wars
suspicious of the military industrial complex, suspicious of pharmaceutical companies.
We were the party of the middle class and the poor.
We're now the party of Wall Street and the war machine and the intelligence agencies and censorship.
And the very, very belligerent, pugnacious neocons who have this foreign policy that is a big benefit.
Military contractors and for BlackRock and Vanguard and the State Street but very very bad for the people of our country and for the world and we need to reclaim the values that my father stood for, that my uncle stood for, that FDR stood for and that's what I intend to do.
Thank
you John.
I was so moved with my wife and daughter there at the Presidential Library at Christmas Eve and I taught college at night for 13 years and I just want you to know to my
classes.
A lot of these were veterans that had come back from the war in Iraq or Desert Storm, and some of these were single moms.
These were minority folks in large part, and many of them were down.
They were having a tough time.
I always showed Henry Poole is here during the four-hour lecture periods that we had at night time.
Your wife, Cheryl Heinz, starred in that.
It's about a man
who, like Jimmy Stewart and his wonderful life, is on the brink of suicide and she's the next door neighbor who's an integral partner in lifting his spirits.
I'm sure Cheryl does that for you.
We love her here too in the
Midwest.
She is the wisest person I've ever
met and one of the
funniest people that I've ever met.
So I'm very, you know, I feel blessed to have her and her support in this campaign has been absolutely critical.
I couldn't do it without her.
We've been blessed to have you honor us with these extensive interviews, Mr. Kennedy.
Godspeed, you got two grit,
and we wish
you safety all the way through to your winning nomination.
John, thank you very much.
Thanks for your support, and thank you for giving me the chance to talk to the people of Iowa and Nebraska.
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Wow, what a great Newsmaker impact this station has KXEL the exclusive with Robert F. Kennedy Jr a blockbuster interview Scotty, let's not forget though about the Republican side of the race.
We had president
trumps trump force one plane buzzing that the sands is burger flipping and uh craning the necks of all those attendees 180 degrees pointing in the sky like superman had just uh come by look it's a bird it's a plane and uh also some kind of bean mean and ornery trolling against the fake rama swami
Scott, where are we at this Republican race?
I'm going to ask you and Tim to handicap and force the next four minutes here.
Go.
Well, it was a busy week at the Iowa State Fair where you had numerous candidates working the crowds and trying to get their message out there.
But Tim, to me, it just signifies that this is still Donald Trump country in the state of Iowa.
He still commands the presence of everyone.
And even though he was not with Governor Reynolds on her fair side chats, he was still mentioned numerous times.
And Tim, I think it's still
caucuses to lose he did not win the caucuses in 2016 Ted Cruz did but I think it's his right now and I'm looking at Vivek Rameshami to come in the top three behind Trump and DeSantis he is really gaining a lot of steam right now and Tim Scott has got a very interesting campaign he's up in the state of Iowa with some major media buys
It is also with an agricultural ad running on the Brownfield networks.
And so I find it very interesting, but I think those are the top four to keep an eye on right now.
Yeah, I think you're assessing that pretty good, Scotty.
Yeah, it's Trump's to lose right now.
And I think most everybody's really looking at second place and that second place might be 20% at best.
Speaking of ads, though, I am concerned about what's floating around there.
I think we're getting into feeding frenzy season already.
That's not even Labor Day.
Nikki Haley is running this ad out there.
She wants to put China into the ad heap of history.
And I've got news for her.
Iowans are not going to send their sons and daughters to conventional warfare with the Chinese.
That's just all there is to it.
I don't know where this theme is originating from.
But I would advise anybody who isn't considered, you know, who's looking for the Trump vote to take up this theme.
Well,
and
Tim, she's a deep neocon embed.
There's no doubt about it.
And I'm also fascinated.
Sebastian Gorka just tore Mike Pence apart.
I think Haley and Pence are on the way out, Tim Gover.
How do you see it?
Yeah, I think that's just the beginning of the start.
And now I hear that
Some of DeSantis' debate crap has been leaked through the New York Times.
And of course, this is a new thing for me because I've never worked for a client of any kind where I had to tell them what to say.
I was usually communicating what they had to say.
So I think that's significant.
I would almost say right now, Vivek has a clean shot at second place in this.
And I would love to see Perry Johnson moving up the totem pole because I think he's a very accomplished man.
and as the as america first himself and and we
could say you could say he's on fire because his advisor is kippa chile murphy their car was on fire earlier this week literally scottie i'll let you wrap it up
well i find it was very interesting and iowa has a very unique populace when it comes to its caucus is where a lot of uh i would say a populace theme is resonating throughout the caucuses the last 30 or so years john and it's very interesting donald trump even though he is a former president
running again.
He is viewed as a populist.
Vivek Ramashami is viewed as a America first populist and RFK Jr.
He's gaining a lot of traction and it's ironic that a lot of Republicans were wishing that RFK would actually sound more like a Republican because they could actually vote for the guy.
It's very interesting with moving forward, John.
Yeah, it really is Scott and I too see parallels both Bobby
and Vivek coming up alongside in very strong positions right now.
And I think they both got coherent messages.
Kennedy goes against censorship, lockdowns, government corporate cronyism, and unending war.
And Vivek, here's Vivek Ramasamy's 10 truths in order.
God is real.
There are two genders.
Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
Reverse racism is racism.
An open border is no border.
Parents determine the education of their children.
The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
There are three branches.
The U.S.
government, not four, talked about the deep state and the administrative agency state.
and the U.S.
Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.
Scotty, I think Bobby and Vivek are resonating.
Do you agree?
Absolutely.
And we saw something with Vivek Ramashami at the fair side chat with Governor Reynolds.
I've never seen before.
A Republican candidate for governor is out there rapping like Eminem.
And it just shows that he is bringing a whole different energy and subgroup to the caucuses.
So keep an eye on him.
Well, we thank Tim Grover and Scott Corey and Mike
Guys, this has been a tremendous episode.
We'll have some more exclusive interviews with presidential candidates.
Jeff Stein does his part at his end, as you know, here on 1540 AM, 100.5 FM.
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