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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Tue Jun 20, 2023
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Right now, let's introduce to the Henry Mancini Decision 76 score.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, who has been trailing the Kennedy campaign for us.
And Ted Bobby Kennedy is getting traction.
He's been endorsed.
by Jack Dorsey.
He's been interviewed by Elon Musk.
Alicia Silverstone just endorsed him.
But you know, I like Bobby Kennedy so much.
And Greg Gutfeld from The Five is mirroring exactly, exactly almost word for word what I've said about Bobby Kennedy.
Let's listen to Greg Gutfeld from The Five the other night.
wants to move past the us versus them mentality.
This is something that Biden had actually weaponized.
He pits people against each other.
This guy wants to get away from that.
He's persuasive enough to make you revisit your stances.
And I know some people, you have to call out the elephant in the room, his voice.
How can you win with a voice like that?
Well, easy.
because he forces you to listen to him.
Think about how Joe Biden sounds so breezy and effervescent and says nonsense.
Just nonsense.
This guy struggles to speak and every single word he says matters.
Democrats shouldn't be jittery.
They should be joyful.
They should hope Joe Biden steps down and this guy becomes their nominee because he could beat Trump.
Trump is a brilliant debater.
He's an attack dog.
He feeds off anger.
Anger is his energy, right?
Where is RFK's energy toward Trump?
None.
Where is RFK's energy toward MAGO, Republicans, supporters?
None.
He's the opposite.
Opposite of Joe Biden.
He actually likes the deplorables.
He condemned that word.
He understands blue collars where only Joe Biden fakes it.
Joe Biden pretends he's his average Joe and he hangs out with steel workers like he's chums with his mechanic or, you know, he knows guy because he knows the name of his driver.
RFK is actually the real deal.
He goes out, he fishes, he explores, he reads books.
I can't believe how much I like this person because I never could stand the Kennedys, but I might have to switch my party just so I could vote for him in the primary because I honestly do think he is a serious breath of fresh air.
He genuinely sees
and feels the appeal of the Trump supporter and even Trump himself.
And that's why, that's why I believe Trump will have a hard time debating him because he'll agree with him.
He'll agree with RFK Jr.
on the deep state, on the military industrial complex, on the unseen and unheard Americans.
I mean, I don't know.
I just think he's, this dude is a powerhouse.
Be stupid to write him off.
I agree with that.
Ted Fogarty, you have the floor.
Talk to us, baby.
Well, I absolutely agree with that as well.
That was just a wonderful speech about truly, you know, one of the greatest American attorneys.
If you look at Bobby Kennedy Jr.'
's career, he has always taken on the biggest dogs in corporate malfeasance.
And gone after all of these folks for the little guy.
He's a genius.
He's literally somebody who has
who has really been working on this project of bringing America back together for a long, long time.
And honestly, you know, it all goes back to his coming out from the vaccine closet back in 2005 in the Rolling Stone article where it has an environmental attorney.
He's like, you know, I'm trying to clean up America's rivers here, but the bloodstreams, the rivers of our bloodstreams of our children are getting poisoned.
Here we are with Dr. Ted Fogarty.
Doc, how far do you go back personally with Bobby Kennedy Jr.?
?
uh... about uh... well i think around two thousand eight two thousand nine uh...
what if your actions been with him how have you intersected with him in your career in his career
uh... he's called me up on occasion uh... for advice on certain medical concepts and techniques including hyperbaric uh... medicine and and some other molecular uh... medical breakthroughs uh... around around the world uh... and and i've been part of i'm
by my ad hoc affiliate of the Children's Health Defense team that he put together.
And when he came up to Bismarck to protest the pipeline with the Standing Rock crowd, I was chair of the radiology department at the University of North Dakota School of Medicine at that point in time.
And I got a little humanitarian medical grade honey wound care supplies down to
Standing Rock Reservation for those who are in the medical ranks, a lot of them coming from out of California to help out with the disaster medicine issues and needs for the protesters there.
So yeah, we go back a long ways and I have the utmost respect for him and this whole voice thing, I think that's an interesting political point
that his voice really does because he has this chronic neurological issue that started decades ago, it forces you to listen to him.
And that commentator is completely correct.
Everything he says has thousands of hours of thought behind.
And so
when I
look at this whole political landscape, and AM radio in particular being the last bastion of free speech in American media,
Literally, this is becoming the podcasting presidency.
This 2024 is literally going to be one on AM Radio, small town newspapers, and podcasting.
And I know behind the scenes, there are tons of people who are starting to say, okay, we really do need to look at Bobby Kennedy Jr.
as Democrats.
And if you're in the Omaha listing area,
uh... and then you're thinking you know you're an independent and you wanna you want to get on the kennedy trade in your conservative independent that the beautiful thing because that's where i am politically and in nebraska the democratic party luckily allows for independence about the democratic primary so i would just encourage everyone in the listing zone uh... for the jacobson group here
You know consider looking looking really closely at Bobby Kenny, Jr.
And if you're an independent with cousins that are Democrats like I am All out all over the Omaha Metro Just gently start to point out some great things about Kenny, Jr.
Because I just I can't see how a Biden how the Biden crime syndicate can beat this sign on of the Kennedy family who is literally
somebody I see as having the most integrity in all of American law.
I will just say this before I go to Sheila Murphy.
I watched Kennedy's announcement speech.
It was basically two hours.
I think it was the greatest American address I have seen in my lifetime.
I looked at Deb and I said, wow, now Kip Murphy doesn't agree with me, but that's okay.
But I will say this before I go to Sheila, Bobby Kennedy went to the southern border this week and decried
the human tragedy going down there.
He called it dystopian and he blamed the federal government.
This is not a Ted Kennedy liberal, Sheila.
This is JFK conservative, Bobby Kennedy, Jr.
Kip Murphy is shaking his head.
No.
Go ahead, Sheila.
Sheila has the floor.
That's
true in certain areas, John.
But my question for you, Ted, is
What kind of statements has Kennedy made about this most recent legal attack on Trump?
Is he having much to say publicly about this?
I haven't seen anything on that matter yet, but just for those in the crowd who hear the term environmental, environmentalist and environmental attorney,
You know, I've watched Bobby Kenny Jr.
evolve over the last year even on these matters of the environment.
And he is all against the geoengineering projects that are going on, which at some level, a lot of this stuff is just out of the federal, it's our tax base from the federal government paying for these huge projects like this pipeline between North Dakota and Iowa.
And he's against that kind of stuff.
because he sees it as well as a problem of the federal government and nearing and and and creating corporate power within the political schemes and that's exactly what's going on with summit
here here with doctor ted 40 ted so you start to see a lot of great question but you start to pile together some of these issues he's against the the war in ukraine that's going to get us into a nuclear conflagration if we keep poking the bear
he is an advocate for the middle class he's foreshoring up the border he has come out advocating for the safety of women's sports he is against this military industrial complex uh... crime syndicate he is against the fauchy ism uh... you start to line this up he's a patriot he talks about of the boston tea party and his
Four bears.
Scotty, I'll go to you.
I'm really
considering voting for this guy.
Well, it's ironic.
If you take away his last name and you do a blind test of all of his talking points, he actually sounds like a Republican from the 1980s, Chip Readman.
And it's very Reagan-esque about some of the conversations that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is having.
And I think one of the most important issues that he's going to talk about, not only talking about Big Pharma, but talking about the issues that we see today of basically a two-tier justice system.
There are a lot of Republicans, a lot of independents, and even some Democrats that will admit now that we need to go in there and we need to smash the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and clean all that bureaucracy
out.
And Bobby's hitting that, Ted, because Ted, Bobby's convinced that basically the Deep State took out his uncle and his father.
Go, Ted.
Yes, yes, that's absolutely true.
He has been, he has been investigating this his entire life.
He's not lying.
He literally has referenced multiple authors on the subject who he has seen put out the real truth behind what happened with his father and his uncle.
It was a deep state hit job on both of them.
And the other thing that everyone in conservative Bluffs country and the surrounds of Omaha and Lincoln need to know is that he's not going to trample
Number two, he's not gonna take away our guns.
He's not gonna mess with that.
He articulated this brilliantly in just the last week that he understands all of the all of the people in gun country and this actually goes back into his personal history he spent a lot of time in his teens and in his early 20s in Alabama and in the deep South in rural in rural places with rural people and and and so he gets it, you know, he's not this
He's not this guy that has been living in New York or Boston all of his life just being an attorney and Hardcore liberal he's taking his family down the Grand Canyon River.
I mean like his outdoorsmanship is an example of he's kind of like a teddy Roosevelt in my eyes
Well, and the alternative in the Democratic primary is the modern-day equivalent of Samosa, Noriega, and Torrijos.
I mean, we have a de facto dictator in place now that runs roughshod over justice and the rule of law.
He's a petty tyrant.
A senile and cynical brutality in the White House currently, Ted.
Yes, absolutely.
And he needs my hyperbaric dementia protocol.
All right guys Guys it's presidential Hawkeye-Cawkeye round two today, and I'm pleased and proud to fire up the great Mr. Perry Johnson American businessman entrepreneur
Quality Control Standard Expert, Michigander, and we've got our live studio audience applauding Mr. Johnson as he joins the program.
Mr. Johnson, thank you for joining us today.
We've got lots of people with questions and comments, but tell us in the Omaha Metro Western Iowa area a little bit about yourself, Mr. Johnson.
Well, I'm a guy that grew up in a small town.
Didn't have much money, but I worked in the steel mill to get through school Had eviction notices in grad school But got a job in the auto industry when they were struggling and I thought I knew how to solve the problem and I did and I started my first company and What we did was introduced statistical methods in the auto industry and we went from Having a situation where the Japanese were killing us
Because they had such great quality, and we're making products so much better and more efficiently.
We had the best cars in the world.
And by the way, when we did that, we also reduced the cost by 20% to 30%.
And then I wrote a standard ISO 9000, the quality standard.
I wrote a book on that, and it took off like hotcakes.
And now Perry Johnson Registrar's and Perry Johnson Laboratory Accreditation.
Do business in 61 countries around the world.
I've spent my whole life.
bringing quality and efficiency to companies, and now I want to bring it to the federal government.
I am super conservative.
A lot of people may not like that, but I am pro-life, pro-second amendment, anti-woke, anti-China, and I think we have a lot of problems here in this country that need to be changed.
I am pro-freedom and pro-American worker, and I think we have to get back to the basics because what's happened is that our reckless spending
which has put us $32 trillion in debt, has destroyed the moral fabric of this country.
And that is why we've had this huge change.
No longer are we in a situation where people believe in patriotism.
It's gone from 70% believing it to now 37.
People no longer believe in religion.
It's gone from literally 67% down to 37%.
And then we have a situation where people don't even want to have kids.
It's gone from 58%.
down to 37%, just in a matter of 20 years.
And that is a shame.
And right now, I think we have a huge problem.
You see what's going on in Washington with the corruption.
We have a problem with the FBI.
We have a problem with our justice system, and they have a dual standard.
It doesn't matter.
Hillary can go, and even though she's been subpoenaed, she can destroy records, and it's OK.
It's OK for Hunter Biden to have a problem, and they don't even reveal it.
And they can have all this corruption going on over there.
Whatever happens with the Democrats, nobody even says anything.
But once there's anything going on with the Republicans, they smash on it.
Think of how absurd everything is.
There was no Russian collusion.
It was proven.
The FBI knew there was no Russian collusion, and they covered it up.
We have a situation right now where they claim that Trump has all of these classified documents.
Heck, he had a right to be classified whatever he wanted.
He was president.
You just rung the bell.
You're getting good studio audience resonance here.
This is an outstanding foray entry here by Perry Johnson.
Scott Corey, these are the issues that resonate
with Iowans and the GOP.
Absolutely.
And thanks for joining the program today, Mr. Johnson.
You know, the one.
The question I actually have for you is you talked about efficiency in the federal government as a small sea conservative.
I don't want the federal government to be efficient.
I want that thing in gridlocked because whenever they're efficient, they raise my
taxes and they regulate me to death.
Well, you and I are kind of on the same wavelength there.
I think less government is better government.
We ought to get rid of the Department of Education because that's just a waste of money.
We ought to take a look at the FBI and see about whether or not we have to get rid of that because I think we have to revamp the Department of Justice, get rid of the FBI, trim, get rid of those 87,000 extra IRS agents.
And you know what's amazing?
When you go into companies, you find that you can get rid of about 20% of all that excess fat with the government.
It's probably even more.
Here with Perry Johnson, presidential candidate, we go to the Murphy's for a question or comment for Perry Johnson.
Mr. Johnson, you have a two-cent solution.
Read your great book.
Can you explain that more to us?
Sure.
In a nutshell, right now, I understand that in the government, they go out of their way to make sure they spend every single penny in their budget every year.
In fact, they start in April to make sure every dollar is gone so they can get more money the next year.
Well, that's the opposite of what should happen.
We should instead incentivize them to do just the opposite.
So I would freeze all budgets.
There are no more increases.
And we have to cut two cents out of every dollar in discretionary spending.
In fact, what we do instead of motivating the people to spend every penny, and if they do, they get promoted, we're going to do just the opposite.
If they do cut that 2%, then they get a bonus.
And the only people that are going to get promoted are the people that find a way
to get better quality and better efficiency in that operation.
Hey, I want to do a poll here real quickly.
How many of you folks got Perry Johnson's book?
Show of hands.
Yep, we did our household as
well, John.
So we've got over 50 percent.
You know, I'm going to go to Sheila in just a minute.
But David, to me, that's how you win the Iowa caucuses.
You get
to them door to door and I got his book mailed at my house and that shows he cares.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you know, that's how you reach, you know, the caucus attendee, the caucus goer.
You know, if you've got that book, and I'll have to go find that book, because I did not get one, but it's...
If you don't know, I have to get you a book.
I want everyone in that caucus to get a book.
We'll send it to you.
I'll
pay for it.
Sounds fine.
I'll find your site and I'll find out how to do that.
But, you know, again, it's the Iowa Caucus and the Iowa Caucus, it's, you know, that meet and greet and shake in hand and pound the pavement.
Tell Perry the story about the seven of us in the van and how you can make an impact.
We were traveling to the Ames straw pole and in the van was John, myself, my daughter, John's wife,
Your wife,
our son,
and John's son, and Chad.
And Chad.
Seven of us.
Seven of us.
And we were heading up to the Amestraw poll, and we got... 2012, I
think it was.
It must have
been 2012, and it was really funny because, lo and behold, all seven of us were voting for a different
person up at the
Amestraw poll.
You know, my wife and I were voting different.
My daughter was voting differently.
It was just...
I think Gerard was in his Rand Paul.
Oh, he was
Rand Paul.
Ron Paul,
sorry.
Ron Paul,
yeah.
And Madeline was undecided until she went and heard...
The Godfather's Pizza Guy that I've drawn a blank.
Oh,
Herman Cain,
yes.
His voice filled the big auditorium up there, which he got a chance to hear.
And lo and behold, we all have voted for different ones.
But again, welcome to the Iowa politics.
I can't say this about Perry Johnson.
He's already become my favorite Michigander automogal because
Perry, I'm no fan of George Romney who is running part of the automotive empire there in the 60s in Detroit.
I understand that.
Sheila Murphy has a question for you.
Sheila, for a GOP presidential candidate, businessman, entrepreneur, and quality control expert from Michigan, Perry Johnson.
Hi, Perry.
A major topic that was of concern
and is of concern among the panelists here on the show, is the tyranny that occurred during the COVID epidemic.
Medical freedom is very important, and I'd like to hear your thoughts on that topic.
Actually, freedom in general was the foundation of this country.
I want you to remember that Patrick Henry said, give me freedom or give me death.
What was it?
Patrick Henry said, uh, oh no, I have but one life to give to this country.
It was Nathan Hale.
Yeah, exactly.
Or give me death and Nathan Hale exemplified the whole feeling of the people that founded this country.
Keep in mind at the beginning of our times that I'm going back to the pilgrims.
They came over for religious freedom.
And then about 250 years ago, we had a handful of people that believed they could have a nation unlike any nation on earth, a nation
of the people by the people, with the basic goals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
They bought an army that was the greatest army in the history of the world, and they had to do it without guns.
They had to steal the muskets and hide them.
They weren't trained soldiers.
They didn't even know how to fight.
They had a pledge in general by the name of George Washington, and they went and did the impossible.
They did that because they had a fire in their bones that
I got it.
I'm going to have freedom and freedom was the most important thing in the world to them.
We're going to have Perry.
That
Mr. Johnson brought us.
We are guys.
It's been a delightful conversation with Perry Johnson.
We want him back on our other two network programs.
Perry, will you join us for those?
I'd love to.
And let me go into Iowa right now to talk at Kelly Cox.
program right now.
She has a big event going on.
I'm going to be there speaking tonight.
I think it is around 7 o'clock, 6.30, 7 o'clock,
so I
will be out there.
After hitting the major, uh, uh, media market and I with the Omaha council blessed market, it's not good to be in that Des Moines secondary media market there.
You'll get the one, two punch it pretty well.
Hey, I will say this, Perry, just going out, uh, Sheila, you were there at the rose and ride for Joni Ernst.
You said Perry got a very good response.
Yes.
Yes.
Uh, you did get a very good response.
We were assessing the group and.
And the crowd really responded to your directness and your message about efficiency.
I'd say it went over well.
Well, you went over well today with the studio audience, Mr. Johnson.
It's been great to have you on the show.
And we wish you safe travels.
The studio audience is applauding here.
And we will see you on the trail.
And you can autograph my book for me, sir.
I would love it.
Are you practically living in Iowa?
You betcha.
Let's jump in.
Perry Johnson,
GOP presidential candidate.
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A guy we gotta get into is Ian Cratelli.
Let's play that special report music here.
Ian, you are joining us back on the show after your great reports on the balloon launch.
And you come from a great family of barristers.
I think the Elder Critelli's rule, the sprudence domain in Iowa.
But Ian, you're back to give a report on your first year in college, just wrapped up in Lawrence at Dubuque.
So we're going with our extra-long podcast today, but for the six minutes to the top of the hour and then on the podcast will be posted at 12.30.
Ian, tell us about Girls in Theology at Loris.
Yeah, sounds good, Daniel.
I appreciate it.
Yep.
So I just finished my first year at Loris College.
Really enjoying it.
As for women, John, to be honest, I mean,
It was a bit of an adjustment going from a school as large as Valley High School with, you know, about 2,600 kids and just grades sophomore, junior, and senior where, you know, at Laura's College, it's only 1,000 kids for all four classes.
It's kind of an adjustment, but it's been really good nonetheless.
Well, you were very diverse in your talents as a page in the Iowa Legislature because you conducted all those tours and you would alternate.
You would have 30 blondes on Monday, 30 brunettes on Tuesday.
Well, what's the deal there?
You
know, to be honest, I couldn't tell you.
I mean, I think it's just, I mean, I like to make a lot of friends.
I think it's probably about it.
They're only friends.
They're only friends, John.
Well, I actually, you're just the opposite of our host here.
He's always out to make enemies, not friends.
Well, Ian, let me ask you this.
Sounds about right.
Well, you remind you remind me of me because in undergrad, I was a finance major that also took 40 hours of theology, philosophy, and ethics.
Are you kind of doing the same thing there?
I love the theology.
Talk to me, man.
Yeah, so I went into school with the plan of finance and I'm still sticking with that.
Next year I'll finally start to get a taste of what the actual finance courses are like.
As of late, I've just been taking the business gen eds.
And then as for the theology, so I am in a scholars program at the college and it's a Catholic scholars kind of base.
And so, I have to get a minor for that program, and I've really kind of enjoyed just how the different courses make me think differently in everything, and it's just been fun to see how, you know, religion can really impact and play a role in my life, and just how much I've grown, you know, throughout my journey just being at school for only one year.
Ian, do you think it is true, you know, it says in the Bible that the disciples
where the disciples were all gathered together in one accord.
Do you think that was talking about Hondas or something completely different?
You know, I think a lot of things in the Bible are for interpretation.
So it kind of just depends on, you know, the context of it.
You're not a Lutheran are you
Mr. Critelli we have made progress though because I think I've got my Missouri Synod Lutheran friend Scott Curry Since the loving gracious, Mrs. Jacobs has had to live with me for 40 years and as your grandfather well knows and says Deb You're my client John's not my client Scotty Mike almost getting
you to believe in purgatory You know there might be something to it and I find it ironic today with it
John has forbidden me to knock on his door on October 31st.
He's afraid I'm going to nail the thesis to his doorstep there.
Well, you know, well, you got to find that doorstep anymore when it comes to John, figure out
where that can be.
The HOA complained about me because the dogs, they said they saw 95 feces.
I says, no, no, no, we pick, we pick ours up.
We pick ours up.
You didn't say
that, did you?
I just said that.
Yeah, yeah.
John Stewart, you were around when Loris was built, weren't you?
Maybe some of the new building.
Clark College.
Maybe some of the not so new buildings, too, come to think of it.
So we've got the whole gang here.
We've got Murph of the Magic Tones, Chip Reedman, Dave Overholster, Nick Burris, here's truly John Jacobson, Jared Glass, John Stewart, Scott Corey, Naomi Corey, Ian Critelli, the great Dr. Ted Fogarty.
Hey, folks, this is an impressive young man, isn't it?
Absolutely.
It's an honor to meet young Mr. Critelli through the airwaves.
You
know his grandfather.
He's a great man.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you have a legacy family of leadership in law and ethics.
It's not just probably the most important in Iowa.
It's probably the most important in America.
Thank you.
It's great to everybody here.
So David, you're up to speed.
You and I are the last of baby boomers.
Scott, what are you?
You're like 15, 16 years younger than we are.
What would you be considered?
Gen X. He is Gen X. Right here,
baby.
Stewart is a, is that the McKinley babies from the turn of the century?
They
call those the sons of the
All I know is John, John when he was younger was dating some civil war widows, I think, John, if I'm not mistaken there.
But golly John, this never gets old, never gets old.
Sheila, I know how old you are, I just googled it.
Thank
you.
What is Ian, what are you?
You're not a millennial, what are you?
Do you know is there a category for your age group now Ian?
To be honest, I can't remember.
I think it's either Gen X or Gen Z.
Yeah,
I think he might be a Gen Z, Kip says Gen Z. Well, he's male though, we know that, right?
Male?
What would you say, Ted?
What's folks say?
I think Ian's part of
Gen Z.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's
right.
I fit in this very little niche called the WTF, What the Fogarty Generation.
No, I like that one.
so okay so what's the world view of gen z years at laurice and are they are they all left wing communists that are kissing uh... miles book and carl marx's communist manifesto are they all uh... uh... big government uh... types uh... are they all uh... licentious uh... uh... living in depraved uh... uh... sexual libertinism what's it like today as a gen z
Well done.
So at Lewis College, you know, it is a private Catholic school This part of kind of why I chose the school was because it would tend to be a little bit more conservative with its values and the way that things go along in the classroom Really, I would say I was kind of surprised going into school ice I mean coming from Valley High School, which you know as a public school.
It's it's really is pretty liberal and
uh...
Des Moines affluent liberal public school yeah yeah exactly
yeah and uh... yeah and so i mean i hear things about you know university of iowa and then how are you know it's not going to get any quote-unquote better so we're going to get quite worse uh... and so that's kind of my that's my thoughts going into the school and but once i arrived i was really shocked i'm at the community uh... there is i mean obviously there's going to be everything you can always have this strictly one but
You know, there really is quite a conservative base there.
A lot of people that really are devoted to their faith.
You know, I've met several different men's groups that talk quite a bit about masculinity, what that means to be a masculine man, how you should go about dating in college and everything like that.
Just a bunch of fun topics that we could all sit around and talk about and have a conversation.
Don't,
don't follow my dating paradigm.
Just ask the lovely and gracious Mrs. Jacobson.
I still hear about that.
But Ian, here's what's really key.
I think you hit on something.
I call it the census fidelium.
When I was at Notre Dame for three summers as liberal.
We got that on tape, right, Nick?
That he was at Notre Dame, correct?
For three summers.
Yeah.
For three summers taking banking schools as liberal as that place is.
And it's been, I think, become maybe even a little bit more liberal since those earlier days when I attended banking school.
Regardless of that at the administrative level, there were still the sense of the faithful.
There was this strong core, daily attendance at Mass, praying at the grotto, the processions, the Eucharistic processions.
Sheila, there was a sense of the faithful that was very traditional there, even at that
liberal regime campus wise shield.
Oh, yes.
It's sad to see that fading.
Perry Johnson mentioned that earlier, that the devotion, the importance religion plays in our life is fading.
We all have
to try to... Folks, Dr. Fordy knows about this.
I constantly am critical of Creighton.
Dr. Fordy, you're a loyal Omaha guy and a loyal Creighton guy.
Address this, can you?
Well, yeah, and I'm also a converted rural American small college Catholic or other religious colleges Understander I've given a number of lectures at the University of Mary and Bismarck on imaging and hyperbaric and That is a Catholic college that has in one of the smallest state capitals in America has a conservative base that is so powerful and they
That institution is leading the march on DC for pro-life crowd, and I would hope that Ian, you can get into that kind of movement if Lawrence is joining University of Mary on that front.
But I see our universities highly influenced by their metros, and so my son goes to St.
Olaf, and it's in the periphery of
liberal twin cities in minnesota
that's a good Lutheran school is it not doctor for me
an evangelical Lutheran
yeah scottie smiling
that that started out i'm sure ultra conservative in his faculty and because of the influence of the suburbanites and it's it's rival carlton's uh... it has become a very very liberal college that really it doesn't have the same you know
fabric amongst its faculty, as it would have had 50 years ago.
And so I'm seeing that too in the state university systems, obviously.
Having been chair of radiology at the University of North Coast School of Medicine, a very conservative state, which has brought in, and this is how this outside influence works, that the university has become a landing zone for outsider liberals in these communities.
even in highly conservative North Dakota.
So where you are, Ian, in Dubuque, it's a really great onsite to have a conservative college and Catholic traditional schooling there.
And I just, from a macro-academic point of view, I just see where, again, our tax base
is feeding the beast.
Interesting.
Interesting.
I know John Stewart wants to, John,
a question or comment?
I was going to ask another one of our studio audience folks here, Jared, about he's going to school right now as well and just, you know, what is the liberalism or conservatism, whichever, going on right now at your university?
Yeah,
because Jared, you're at UNO, is that correct?
That is
correct.
That's a big state school in Nebraska.
There have been conflicts in the past with free speech issues down at the Lincoln campus.
What are things like up in Omaha?
Do you feel free to express your views and opinions?
Well, I think compared to the Lincoln campus, I know I actually heard about that.
You know, I haven't seen anything quite as bad as that, but I would say in general, the campus does have a very liberal mindset to it.
Yeah.
And a lot of those views are kind of pushed more than others.
I mean, they, of course, the college, you know, curriculums always kind of say they're unbiased and stuff, but, you know, so, so does the FBI, right?
But you do see a lot more liberal views pushed there.
And I think it's only getting worse as the years go by from when I was a freshman there, probably about six, seven years ago.
I think it's only gotten progressively more liberal.
Ian, that's
a great comment by Jared.
Ian, knowing your rootedness in your family, your great father and your wonderful grandfather, do those guys kind of just stay in touch and bounce ideas off you?
Do you feel like you can share in adult conversations with these guys now in a different way than maybe you could when you were eight years old, 10 years old, 12 years old?
Well, of course.
Of course.
That thinks that
I mean having gone to school and and really getting my formation put together after finishing at the page programs of being at the capital action understanding you know politics and everything just better than I had really kind of opened the door for more genuine conversations as where before I didn't really know what I was talking about.
Jared you know used to be a commuter school now they've got dorms you have any family in the area are there any support systems?
I don't think nobody that I know really well and and you know associate on a daily basis that I know in the dorms but I know I know their dorms have been getting they've been they've been really expanding in the past few years but I know that I have seen a lot of different groups emerging in the last few years and in fact there's one that I see all the time when I was especially in this last semester it was a it was an all
men's group, and I think they were kind of banding together and talking about religious issues, masculinity issues, the few times that I've walked by them, and I think that's some of the issues that they were having, and I think also the faith programs there at UNO.
I've seen a couple of them pop up recently too, so.
Yeah, they've got the John Paul Center on campus, too, that some of the kids are living at.
Sheila, a comment or question for Ian or Ted or Jared here?
Yes, for Ian and Jared, both you young gentlemen strike me as being problem solvers in your approach.
And we've talked a lot about how terrible things are and how they're getting worse.
What thoughts do you have about what we all can do to improve this situation?
Sure, I can go ahead and go first.
I think, you know, and while I don't know everything and I'm still learning, I feel like the biggest thing that needs to be done to at least have, you know, start the figuring out of the problem is going to be for everybody to kind of sit down and put aside, you know, their kind of beliefs to really go towards the root of the problem.
You know, I just actually finished up a management class and one of the things that I learned is that, you know, communication is huge.
and when people can't communicate properly or they let biases affect different things and things cannot necessarily be solved.
It's still important to stand in your beliefs, you know, especially when you know it's right, but I think that it's, you know, to have those genuine problems solved, you know, it takes conversation and understanding.
Great insight.
Jared, anything that you'd like to add to that?
I
would say the biggest problem that I see in my generation is just there needs to be a bigger emphasis
Culturally and socially on the family unit and I think young people today need to have Need to be surrounding themselves with the right people that have been there and done it and you know the strong assertive figures in their lives that know what they're talking about rather than I think what the thing that my generation does all too often as we go straight to social media and You know lies in the media and we take our information we get our our knowledge from that and it's just it leads to just
ultimately poisonous behaviors.
So Ted Fogarty, I'm going to give you the final word as we start to wind up our extended session here for the podcast.
Ted, it seems like the left has co-opted all of our institutions.
Scotty, I think you would agree with that.
David and Chip, do you agree with that?
I mean, they've got academia.
They're starting even with successful infiltration in the churches.
They've got the arts.
They've got the news media.
What instant they've got law enforcement.
They've got the intel community.
We don't have a beachfront anywhere right now.
It's your treatment.
No, not at all.
Actually, one thing I wanted to bring up was.
Wasn't it just in the news recently that the Newman Center, which is the Catholic institution at UNO, didn't they have a bomb threat there?
Yes, they
did.
From James Revenge?
Waco.
Oh, man.
And I didn't know if you guys had heard about
that.
Yeah, yeah, did read about that.
And it is just a shame.
I mean, campuses used to be the bastions of free speech.
Now they're the bastions of almost censorship, David.
I mean, your girls got bombarded, even in Iowa City, I hate to say,
you know what they they really did.
And and it it it permeated everything that Olivia was a resident advisor.
And, you know, there was a constant
woken us with regard to her training in that, you know, to be in RA.
And yeah, it, I, oh my gosh, especially depending on the majors you go into, you really can see it very hardcore, depending on majors.
So Dr. Fogarty, take us out here.
How do we get out of this morass, my friend?
Well, you know, I just look to the history of the saints.
And if you look at St.
Francis of Assisi, who lived in the time of terrible permissiveness and sinfulness,
I don't think we're going to get anywhere on our own here without Christ above.
And we just need a lot of prayers and a lot of ways for people who are in these realms of the border zone of knowing what's right and what's wrong and being influenced inappropriately to have a moment with Christ above and a revelation that they can come and be a better person.
by even just shutting off the social media.
It's kind of a tower of babel analogy here.
We have so many influences that are so toxic in word and thought and imagery.
And I just don't know how we're going to get our children out of that, but it's something we're going to have to keep doing is continuing to be the remnants, the people in the Midwest.
Saying hey, we got to change this and something will something will happen.
It's just gonna take a lot of prayer
Oh One of the highlights of our week as always is Barbara Haynes Bryant with Haynes homes the homes people beautiful
affordable, safe, wonderful homes for our people in Southwest Theater Rapids in Eastern Iowa.
Barbara, welcome back to the program during these beautiful summer days of June.
Thank you, John.
It's always good to talk with you guys.
Barbara, there's so much going on.
We're going to talk about a major accomplishment that your
a wonderful company just received and earned for their civic stewardship.
But first, let's just emphasize to folks, I always love that 319-377-486 fill in the blank number.
3-4863.
4863.
So that's a traditional prefix that goes back.
Probably close to 70 years, 60 for sure, in the Marion Cedar Rapids area.
This great family legacy, this multi-generational effort of your family to bring safe, affordable, beautiful housing to our folks.
You've got a little historical tidbit for us today, Barbara.
I do.
I'm fond of saying when was the last manufactured home built?
Excuse me, when was the last mobile home built?
Because mobile homes were the precursor to manufactured homes.
The answer to that is a mobile home hasn't been built since 1976.
But that's
not
interesting.
Wow.
Right.
So an author who was quoted in the MH Merchandiser magazine, which is one of our trade magazines, actually went back farther than that to find out when the first mobile or manufactured home
was recorded in history and it is in 1764.
Wow.
a two-story, panelized frame dwelling was shipped from London to Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
And that is the world's first mobile home that we can find in history.
Is that too cool?
That is absolutely fascinating.
It almost projects perfectly with
as a spirit of 76, right before 1776.
And then the last one going out in our nation's bicentennial, 1976.
Barbara, it's amazing.
And I have
seen in my lifetime,
over 50 some years, the amazing evolution of the industry, just in how your family
has so beautifully been prescient and adapted and been literally a progressive leader in helping to shape that industry for the better for the folks.
That's absolutely right.
My parents started this business in 1969.
Kurt and Norma Haynes, the homeless people.
After they retired from the military, they knew that people would always need safe, affordable housing.
So they decided to get into the manufactured housing business.
Now, in that amount of time, people still need safe, affordable, attractive, livable homes.
What's changed the most is the homes themselves.
They used to be, well, shall we say, cracker boxes.
And now the homes are nearly indistinguishable from the traditional site-built home in a residential neighborhood.
Barbara is so true.
I've just recently been through those neighborhoods.
They are residential, suburban, affluent neighborhoods.
They're beautiful, beautiful homes, landscapes, tremendous infrastructure.
The streets and roads are pristine.
There are 3,000 units.
Well, I should say 3,000 people almost living in those units.
And Barbara, it's the community touch that you and your family have had.
Your dad and mom are great patriots defending this country.
during the great cause of World War II, Barbara Wood started out as an emergency help during that terrible derecho, that natural disaster in 2020 and its aftermath.
It's now turned into a very well-stocked, accessible food pantry that takes up half of your summit due office.
We're always looking for ways to provide extras, amenities,
services to our residents.
We're like a little town here and we can do that.
We can provide extra services.
Like you said, after the derecho, what started out as just a little food exchange and one of our offices has turned into a full-size food pantry.
It's open on Tuesdays and Wednesdays from 10 a.m.
to 4 30 p.m.
Anybody can come in and get groceries for themselves or their families.
There's no eligibility requirements, and yes, it does take up half of our Summit View office because there's such a need nowadays for some extra help for working families.
Here with Barbara Hames Bryant, the matriarch of Hames' home as a homeless people, it's true.
You know, this pantry currently benefits nearly 3,000 people a month.
They've got dry foods, as well as milk, bread, meat.
Pet treats, personal items, diapers.
As Barbara said, no eligibility requirements.
Well, Barbara, what I love about it is you guys don't do things.
You're not blowing your own horn or counting yourselves.
But the Corridor Business Journal did take note.
And annually, they give out an award to one Cedar Rapids company that best articulates the festival.
measurable business outcomes from community service efforts, exemplifying the principle that doing good is also good business.
And Barbara, congratulations.
The Corridor Business Journal has awarded you folks the Connect for a Cause Award, which you have accepted.
We were so excited to receive that award.
Like you said, we're never expecting a pat on the back.
We're just doing what God wants us to do.
But when you get that kind of recognition, it's so nice.
And the other nice thing was at the Connect for a Cause Award ceremony, we were able to invite Haynes employees and Haynes volunteers, the people that volunteer at the food pantry, talk about not getting any attention.
They were able to come with their families and have a really nice evening out.
Folks again here with Barbara Hames Bryant, the great matriarch of Hames, the homeless people.
You know, Barbara, on your report card as a little girl, I bet you got an A for plays well with others because you've been working in coordination with the fine people at Quaker Oats and the non-profits United We March Forward and HACAP, the Hawkeye Area Community Action Program.
Wow, you really built the synergy with this effort.
There's some amazing nonprofit organizations in Cedar Rapids.
Many of them have been around, like you said, for decades.
They were so willing to work with us.
They had the goods, but not the distribution method.
And here we are in Southwest Cedar Rapids at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.
We have the availability.
We have the parking lot.
We have
a space for it and we have volunteers stocking and helping people get selected foods each month.
We were so happy and so proud to work with those organizations.
Barbara Hamas Bryant, wonderful time with you today.
I've got one outro question here that I just want to touch on.
You folks also do financing there and I was pleased
Appropriately, the Federal Reserve kept rates stable this month in June in their meeting earlier this week.
This is a time for folks to still check into financing.
Manufactured homes are still very affordable from a financing standpoint and you have that mechanism as well.
Yes, for years we had trouble finding financing for home only loans.
Because remember, our residents own their homes and lease the land.
Some banks were reluctant to make loans on homes that were on leased land.
Now there's more banks involved, including our bank, which is called Circle Finance.
We're able to provide good rates for folks with simple, easy to understand loans, fixed rates, short term, no balloon payments, no closing costs, and we were able to provide that to our residents.
and some local banks are doing that too so it's a great time to buy a manufactured home.
Oh Barbara if I were just going to law school at Iowa all over again I know my late father and my my mom who's still with us would say John don't bother with those Iowa City apartments they're trying to study to law school with dirty dingy mangy roommates and
and all those problems down there with traffic and rental shortages in Iowa City, they would say, John, let's get you into a Hames home right there in Southwest Cedar Rapids.
We're only 20 minutes away from the campus.
We're so close to everything here in Southwest Cedar Rapids.
It's amazing.
We're 10 minutes from the Eastern Iowa Airport.
We're maybe 15 minutes from the Imana Colonies.
We're right across the street from Cedar Rapids Steel Transportation, CRST, and just 10 minutes from downtown Cedar Rapids.
Our residents like to say they feel like they're living in the country, but with all the amenities of living in a city.
Barbara, our listener base, on these 50,000 watts of clear channel, charming across all of eastern Iowa, and the
complements of our FM band.
We got a lot of folks listening in on on Saturday and Sunday this weekend.
Barbara, how do they find you?
Address, phone, and website.
Let's start with the website.
That's the first place most people look for us.
It's HainesHomes.com H-A-M-E-S-H-O-M-E-S.com
We're at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest, and we're open seven days a week.
Our phone number is that Good Legacy Marion phone number 319-377-4863.
319-377-4863.
Our wonderful, helpful failstaff here can get people started on the home they've always wanted at a price they can afford.
Barbara, I'm not certain of many things at this stage of my life, but I am certain of several things with apidictical metaphysical certitude.
I know that your late great-father and mother are very proud of what you have done to lead your family in this multi-generational legacy of providing people with that most basic of all
desires, wants, and needs, and that is a beautiful, safe, affordable home.
That's how we see it too, John.
Thank you.
God bless you, Barbara Hames Bryant.
Have a great, safe holiday weekend here.
John Jacobson, we're going to head back to the studio, do what I do, go over there in beautiful Southwest Sea Rapids, drive to those beautiful neighborhoods at Hames Homes.
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