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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Tue May 30, 2023
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On this beautiful Saturday in May, we've got breaking news.
Scott, you're going to lead this off.
Here we go.
Well, thanks, John.
It has been a big day in Hawkeye Nation.
I think the tears of joy have been flooding the Missouri to the Mississippi.
Iowa fans, you know what I'm talking about.
Gary Barda is gone.
This is one of the greatest days in Iowa sports history.
The athletic director that has cost the university millions of dollars over the years with his frivolous lawsuits of aptitude is no longer employed.
It is a glorious day, Matt Garst.
And are we going to be here to break news that Matt Campbell will be the new athletic director
at
Iowa?
Matt Garst, your thoughts on Gary Barda and his replacement.
My pick for his replacement will be Beth Goetz.
I hope I pronounced her name correctly.
Former athletic director at
at Ball State.
She was a finalist for the Wisconsin Athletic Draft before she took over as Chief Operating Officer last September at Iowa City.
Matt Garsh, your thoughts?
Well, first of all, congratulations to all the Hawkeye fans out there.
I know Gary Barton's feet has been pretty warm for a while now.
I think change in leadership in the athletic department there is a good thing for the University of Iowa.
It's going to be interesting.
I'm assuming that that gets her date.
I don't know how to say her last name either.
I assume that she'll be the new AD.
Don't know what kind of relationship she has with the parents family, but you know, she will be Brian's new boss when this all finally occurs.
Pete's family broke this.
It's on all over Twitter now.
It's going to be, they'll be interested to see the timeline there and how that potentially affects Kirk Barron and his tenure there.
Mainly, does he get along with her and will he stick around once the dust settles there?
I presume that he will and he'll be able to leave on his own terms whenever he decides to do that.
But I'm more curious to see how this affects Brian Barron than anything.
You know, Matt, you bring up a great point too, because now here we are talking about Gary Barton no longer going to be the head of the Iowa Athletic Department.
In my lifetime, I've had two football coaches.
the great Hayden Frye and the great Kurt Farrance.
Now I'm on my fourth athletic director.
And just the optimism I am seeing across Hawkeye Nation, Matt and John and Chip is just amazing right now that the page has been turned.
And I think, you know, you point to a very important question too.
I'm not going to say that Kirk's time is done in Iowa, but we all know he's in his late 60s.
Fran is in his 60s.
Lisa Bluter is in her 60s, I believe.
So the new athletic director will be having to make some
some very important hires in the next few years for the three flagship programs moving forward.
So it's going to be very interesting to see how this shapes out.
And if I'm Iowa State, I'm a little nervous now that if Iowa gets this higher right, that how big of a problem Iowa will be because of the NIL, the new big 10 media deal, and now maybe a functioning athletic department.
That's going to be very interesting to see how that shakes out.
Obviously the resources that the University of Iowa is going to be dealing with
their media deal far exceed Iowa State's media deal with the Big 12.
There's going to be some important decisions that need to be made by whomever takes over when Bar to retire.
And I've not seen a timeline on when he is going to officially retire yet.
So that'll be interesting, particularly with the onboarding of two schools from the West Coast with UCLA and USC into the Big
Big 10, and then there's going to be some interesting questions with the deal that Kevin Warren had that put together for the media rights because there's some problems there that frankly, ADs and university presidents are going to have to deal with.
So I'm curious to see if Barda tries to write that ship on Iowa's behalf before he retires.
Well, I think I just got some information here.
Gary Barda is giving Kurt Farrance the greatest birthday gift of them all because Gary Barda is leaving Iowa August 1st, which happens to be Kurt's birthday.
And, you know, that's a great birthday gift for me too because mine is on August 3rd.
So I think that tells us a lot about the timeline.
It gives Barda a little bit more time to transition over to the new athletic director who we all figure Beth is probably in the
at the moment, but Matt Garst, your thoughts moving forward on how this could affect not only recruiting, but Jamie Pollard is putting together a great program there too at Iowa State.
How does he move forward too with his new operation at Iowa?
That's going to be fascinating to watch.
Again, as I alluded to earlier, the amount of resources that Iowa has versus or is going to have versus what Iowa State has.
means you're going to have to be a little more creative on your recruiting.
You've got to kind of sharpen the pencil and maybe take some chances on some guys that you think that you can develop and then hope that they don't leave for greener pastures.
I would say the same concept pertains to Iowa but to a lesser degree as I believe there's more NIL opportunities for some of their student athletes due to their affiliation with the Big Test.
You know, Matt, we appreciate everything you've done here, and I just want you to know, once we get through the Memorial weekend, I will be having some drinks at my home.
You're more than welcome to come.
It would be the new Hawkeye Ale that the Iowa Swarm Collective will be transitioning, I believe, in July.
It will be coming out with the new Hawkeye Ale, Golden Ale, and I know Iowa State's kind of be struggling for some money, so I'll let you take the cans home so you can redeem them for their
NIL
purposes.
Man, I'm curious to try that, that exile beer though.
Yeah, well, we'll talk to our good friends in the distribution center and we'll get a couple of cases at the Corey household, but Chip Reidman.
Yeah, good takes from Matt Gars today, Matt.
We really appreciate you weighing in with this electrifying weekend news.
Of course, we have it here on this great KXEL.
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Jeff Stein will be up with us shortly, but hey, let's go to our fearless Husker fan.
see what the takes are from our bordering state, Scotty.
I think you've got Chip Reedman on the line.
I do.
We're joined on our newsmaker line by Chip Reedman, who is going to be kind of sweating bullets now because Chip, you and I have some competition moving forward.
It was just announced that Iowa basketball men's basketball will be playing Creighton here in November.
We got the Iowa Hawkeyes.
You're dominating right now in the Big Ten tournament at Charles Swab Stadium.
Drank them dry again.
Way to go, Hawkeye
Nation.
It's good revenue for
Omaha, like to see them help that Omaha Chamber of Commerce.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And now, Iowa's going to have a new athletic director to go toe to toe with your boy, Trev Alberts.
Your thoughts as being a Husker fan on the change in Iowa City?
Thanks for having me on, Scott.
I appreciate it.
From this side of the river, our perspective, I guess, would be it good for them.
Obviously, Bart is going to just pull the problems.
Quickly touching on one thing that Matt said,
Regarding Kevin Warren and the TV contract.
I don't just want to say the lack of a TV contract.
Being that they found so many holes or things that were not taken care of eyes that were not dotted.
These that were not crossed.
So I feel sorry with his name, Pettit.
I feel sorry for him walking into an absolute.
Petito.
Yeah, Petiti.
Yeah, Petiti.
Yeah.
So on the athletic director, you mentioned, you know, several of the coaches are getting along in years.
Every program goes through that.
She's got some important hires, assuming that the lady you're talking about does get hired.
But I'd almost wonder, you always got the other side of the program.
What about the teams that aren't performing well?
Obviously, baseball is doing well now.
My memory serves me right.
I don't remember being a baseball team, but maybe they've all of a sudden, you know, crack broken through on this deal with a good team this year.
But I look at the women's volleyball team as an example.
Do they have, the new AD have some tough decisions coming with some other teams?
Because the Iowa's volleyball team, I thought, is far underperformed what they should be doing in this region of the country.
You can go to any state that Iowa touches, and you can find good volleyball players.
They're in Wisconsin, we know they're in Nebraska, we know Minnesota's got them, you know Illinois's got them.
So I guess I'd kind of like to hear what you have to say about that.
Is there anyone that's going to be on the hot seat with this in the next year or so besides Brian?
And I feel sorry for the new AD because they are stuck with a contract on on him for a little while already.
All I know, I'll just get in here for a minute, Chip, before I go back to Scott, I would be delighted to be put in charge of the NIL for the
volleyball team.
I think I could turn that into a cash cow.
Scott, I know you'd put all your effort into that to make sure that was right up there so that you could maybe try to bring a lived Livy Dunn back into Iowa City for that volleyball.
At least there's a Livy Dunn paradigm for generating NIL dollars.
I think that family has been ingenious.
Absolutely.
But I think, you know, I think, you know, Beth Goins or Gertz, however it's pronounced, I apologize again.
You know, since she's been at Iowa City since September of last year,
chief operating officer, she can go ahead and kind of break, you know, fresh perspective to these other programs that are struggling a little bit.
You know, the track team did very well in the big 10 title or championships here about a week ago.
And so I think it kind of serves notice to I think, you know, as we both know that
When a new athletic director comes into a program that person likes to put their fingerprints on the new coaches and so maybe You know it maybe changes good.
Maybe it'll help brands get over the Penn State hurdle maybe to help Heller ball in the Iowa baseball team, you know make a run to the College World Series Maybe to improve the softball and volleyball team.
So I think Right now I'm very optimistic now the key will be
How does she integrate herself with the donor base to make sure that they are welcome and that, you know, she's going to have to tour the state of Iowa and go on and talk about what her vision is for the program too.
But I'd also be remissed, Chip, if I did not say a huge thank you.
You know, I was told that President Wilson was a woman of action.
when she was at Illinois as their president a few years ago.
You have sources Scotty.
Scotty's got sources.
It's interesting who I've run into in my life that like to talk but I would say that you know she was not afraid to clean up that athletic department.
We were told through back channels this spring that she would act.
It looks like they found a way to get to move on from Gary after 17 years which is a great thing.
And so a lot of
of a lot of kudos to President Wilson on how she's handled this.
Now, moving forward, you know, this new athletic director and these new coaches, they will be saddled with President Wilson and her legacy.
So it's going to be very interesting.
To see and you know as Matt Garce talked about ship the athletic department is going to be moving forward We're gonna have this large amounts of money coming in through the new big 10 media deal And so it would be very interesting to see how the new athletic director handles this kind of the pressure because Iowa is a flagship of the state and so it's gonna be very interesting to see how the new athletic director works Not only with the here in the state of Iowa, but with her
with his or her compatriots in the Big 10 because even USC now is looking for an athletic director as well, John and Jim.
Scotty, I think the timing of this is actually very good and here's why.
Kirk's looking for one more Big 10 win to really cement his record to surpass Amos Alonzo Stagg and become the bronze medalist on the all-time Big 10 stand for most coaching victories.
And Scott,
The thing is, a program can get more abundant though if the coach stays a year or two or three too long.
Look at Bear Bryant, look at some of the other situations where frankly Joe Paterno stayed too long.
Bobby Bowden stayed too long.
And here I think this gives some adrenaline surge to making sure that there's not a languishing
Toward the end term of the program there.
I I don't think this really threatens Kirk and Brian as you alluded to I give you great credit for the observation This may be Kirk's last year with natural Attrition anyway, he's hanging in there for that one big big 10 victory there and You look at it and Fran McAfrey's kind of
I hate to say aging out, but you know, as a guy who's in his 63rd year, I'm aging out of a few things, not just a second, but probably in a year or two from certain professional and political enterprises that I've been in.
And I think to keep that momentum propelling, you know, Fran probably has a sense of urgency now to, to
ramp it up or maybe decide that he's had his run.
So I like the timing of this.
I think that it's a good time to pull this off.
Absolutely.
Chip, I'd like to get your perspective too, because since joining the Big Ten Conference, Nebraska has gone through several athletic directors.
Some were very good fits and some were not.
What are your thoughts moving forward?
Because unlike Nebraska,
basically the new athletic director is inheriting a stable stable of coaches and uh... you know it's completely different than what nebraska was looking at you know john just alluded to the the longevity of our our major major coaches here uh... what are some of your perspectives on that
i think it's an excellent point i've albert definitely walked into a firestorm with several things several coaches well into performing what they should have been doing
He's jumped onto the NIL deal pretty well.
Even though we all know that's outside the university, I'm sure at some point the AD has to kind of keep an eye on what that situation is.
Yeah, I'm lucky for whoever's getting a job in Iowa.
They do have a pretty good stable of people that they're going to work with.
There are going to be some minor tweaks they're going to have to do.
The NIL is probably the biggest situation because of the competition.
Iowa, at least from what I've seen,
I'm not against the entire big 12 or big 10, but they're not really on the upper end of it.
I know I think Nebraska is basically double the money that they have.
So Iowa really has to make a move in that area.
And we're not even going to talk about Michigan or Ohio State because they're probably quadruple what Nebraska is.
Well, you bring
up a great point about the NIL.
You bring up a great point about the NIL because we had some breaking news here about a week ago where Brad Hendricks, who's the person in charge of the Iowa Swarm, the NIL collective for Iowa, he stated in an interview that he had not talked to Bartha in months.
I mean, I was appalled when I read that, that the Iowa Athletic Director was not coordinating what they can.
I understand there has to be some firewalls there, but they're not coordinating with the NIL.
And so whoever the new athletic director is, I hope one of their first calls is not only to President Wilson, but to Brad Hendricks, the NIL director for the Iowa Swarm.
Well, that's basically a no-brainer.
You have to do it.
There's just going to be way too much money involved with that until
some organization, whether it's the NCAA or a new college football organization, comes in and starts laying down some rules about this.
That is absolutely critical.
You know, the other question kind of diverting for a moment is the lady that you're talking about, the COO, that is a good candidate for the job.
Personality is important.
Uh, Trev Alberts came in, he had a very good personality, although he had rubbed a lot of people at UNO wrong when he
Because of what happened over there, which I have to keep repeating, was not all his fault.
It was throwing his lap and he was given a bad situation.
But he's done well in Lincoln.
People really like what he says.
They like the direction he's taking things.
So, personality-wise, it's good.
Is this person you're talking about, do they have the personality, the charisma, to take them around the state?
I mean, you sure don't want someone who's going to come in and be just a cold fish and just can't talk and relate to people.
Well, yeah, I thought it was interesting, John.
It was that Scott Dockerman from the Athletic tweeted out a photo Friday morning about seven o'clock and I quote tweeted it.
I said that was a very interesting photo.
It was a picture of Beth Goitz.
along with Gary Dolphin at an iClub event and I thought that was a very telling picture because Scott was sitting on that photo for over a month.
Well, and Scott, you bring up another good point.
Obviously, Ed Polak is older than 75 now.
Dolphin's in his late 60s.
There'll be some determinations made about broadcasters.
What people did not anticipate a mere two years ago was the Caitlyn Clark phenomenon and how
Caitlin Clark and the women's team may actually populate more seats this upcoming season than even the men would and we've got to capitalize on that with the NIL with the portals and I think Beth as athletic director being a woman and appreciates for women's sports that might be the perfect synergy we need right now too with this unforeseen you know found
uh money so to speak uh with the unanticipated
extreme success of the women's basketball fandom now that follows this team with such verve.
You know
that's a great point too and you know we talked real quickly about it Chip was that it was announced that the Iowa men will be traveling to Omaha to take on Creighton in I believe in November for the for a tournament between the Big 10 and the Big East but my question is why didn't Creighton take on Caitlyn Clark you cowards I mean play Caitlyn Clark I mean I
I'd have Caitlin Clark versus Doug McDermott's team, and Clark would probably be a 10-point favorite.
Yeah, you know, I gotta chime in here, too.
I mean, I know they're scared of the Hawkeye fans drinking a lot of beer, but you know, if they really had guts, not only would they not insist on an Omaha home game, but it would be five on one, and I'm putting my money on Caitlin Clark on my Iowa sports app, passed by the Iowa legislature.
As long as you're in Council Bluffs
when you have to.
across the river chipper you want to any of that action chip well well that's a
good point uh... you know these schedules are set up actually in pretty short order as far as the basketball schedule i think right now still working on this fall and a lot of their games which i think is typical for a lot of school now on the other hand i'd i have never seen creighton and i will have a long standing
any competition anything Iowa State and Creighton particularly in basketball have a much bigger history as far as playing each other and maybe they feel that the one Iowa school is enough I you know I really can't answer that question it would be exciting to see now that we got Yukon in that obviously has changed Creighton a little bit because now they're looking to put into that game whenever they come to Omaha putting that game in the CHI center because they know they can pack it in because Yukon is a traditional powerhouse
I really don't have an answer to that question.
It'd be nice to see them play.
I don't understand.
There's been so much emphasis over the last maybe a decade of trying to get games that are closer to home instead of traveling so far across the country.
That was a perfect match.
On the other hand, you can look a lot of the Missouri Valley teams.
Why Drake?
Why aren't they playing?
You don't go back and play in some of them.
Wichita State and Northern Iowa.
So you could probably scratch your head about a lot of games, just wondering why they don't get played.
But, you know, every coach has a prerogative and it's that home and away series that always is the arguing point, you know, who's the bigger dog and who's going to get the home and who's going to get the way and which one comes first.
You talk about scheduling, you know, John and Chip, I had to get both your guys' thoughts on this, is that when you talk about football too, there's a lot of talk moving forward is that, you know, what will Iowa's football schedule look like?
What's USC and UCLA are onboarded?
You know, who will be our protected rivals?
Are we going to the pod system?
Where does Iowa's new athletic director stand on expansion?
You know, President Wilson will make the final decision, but, you know, there has been a lot of talk out there that Washington, Oregon, possibly maybe
some ACC schools or even Cal and Stanford could be headed to the big 10 within the next few years.
So there's a lot of important decisions that this new athletic director is going to have to work with.
President Wilson on to get Iowa stance on that because it was Iowa along with Ohio State Penn State in Nebraska that went to war against Kevin Warren when he shut down the football season in 2020.
Scotty, you're so pumped that Barda is retiring.
I'm so psyched that Kevin Warren is writing off to the sunset.
You know, I locked horns with them when I was in the legislature and asked them for some documentation because the Big Ten was not registered to do business in the state of Iowa.
You know, it took a while to even get a reaction from them.
I was not impressed, but someone I am impressed with bringing him in live here on the newsmaker line.
Here we go.
Oh, that means special reportage.
Scott Corry, the doctor is in the house.
Jeff Stein, the patriarch of KXEL, the chief, the main man.
the mogul himself when he's not busy subbing for Todd Starnes and the Bohannon Show heirs.
He's deigned to join us today.
Scott, is this epic
or what?
It is.
It is a big news day here in the studio and Jeff Stein, you know, has to feel to be part of a sports winning program where we just broke the news that Gary Barda is out in Iowa.
Are they still playing sports?
Oh, Stein, you're killing me.
I had lost touch on that.
He's got that pamphlet
contract, remember?
No, yeah.
Don't remind me.
Well, the timing of this is interesting.
The fact that it's breaking, going into a holiday weekend, usually if you want to bury this stuff, you do it a little later in the day, but I cannot imagine this ever being something that would be
swept under the rug and...
So that'll give the Twitterverse something to talk about into the Memorial Day.
You know, this is just par for the course.
Gary Barda over those 17 years has been known for the holiday Friday news dump and now it's his retirement.
I use the air quotes in that on the Friday before Memorial weekend.
It's just a glorious way to go out, Jeff.
I mean, you know, I can't wait to see the day when, you know, John Jacobson leaves the bank.
I mean, those people were cheering in the Capitol when he
out of the capital.
I can't wait to see what they do with that security national bank.
Well, keep in mind, I only picked up the phone because it was not his number.
Same.
He's got a lot of burger numbers out there.
That's what threw me to be honest.
Well, you know, I guess if if I if I want to have the kind of successful career that the legendary John O has had, I better get started.
But I've already reconciled myself to second place.
Well, we talk a lot of big important issues going on out there.
You got some breaking news of your own there.
Don't you?
That's why we're really bringing them in today, Jeff.
Break out the clarion bells.
You are Mr. Big.
Talk to us, man.
Well,
we're having
a
nice little cross-platform conversation about issues.
The radio station that I have my base at, News Talk 1540 KXEL, it's a 50,000 watt clear channel station based in Cedar Rapids and Waterloo, Iowa, and we have partnered with one of the nation's premier production houses, Mud Advertising, based in the Cedar Valley, along with a national newspaper chain to
put together a series of conversations, which we are calling Iowa Talking Points.
And we think this will be the first comprehensive, first and only comprehensive cross-platform conversation series.
Obviously, the layer on the radio, they will be live streamed at IowaTalkingPoints.tv.
They will be available video on demand, and we have the print coverage, et cetera, because of Iowa's unique position.
We not only lead the nation in so many economic ways, not just agriculture, but manufacturing as well.
Government reform, right at the top of the list.
Again, we're the first in the nation caucus state.
So we decided it was a great opportunity to take advantage of some unique synergies, and that includes bringing presidential candidates in.
where I'll moderate a conversation, we'll have others on the panel.
Big thing though is a studio audience will be there and we're rolling these out, our first one going into Memorial Day weekend and we're really looking forward to having a good extended conversation about issues.
This is not just about the caucuses, we'll be talking about broader issues but you can't miss the opportunity to have all of these future leaders of the free world.
Jeff Stein,
you were doing this over a third of a century ago.
I saw it at the University of Iowa when you were helming news coverage there at the University of Iowa Public Radio Station.
And of course, you're one of the few journalists I know that is aware of my one absent
vote.
I actually did not vote in one election involving a presidential selection.
The Iowa caucuses of 88, Jeff, you knew that I was gone for those caucuses, honeymooning in Kansas City with the lovely and gracious Mrs. Jacobson.
Really bad planning on your part to miss the presidential precinct caucuses.
I think she would have understood.
And so I missed voting for George H. W. Bush at that juncture.
Hey, and Jeff,
You were at Iowa almost at the time when I personally saved Nancy Reagan from a surly mob by doing my Maxwell smart shoe phone impersonation.
So we go back quite a ways, don't we, my man?
In ways that I don't wish to claim.
The one thing that goes back even further is how long I've been covering the Iowa caucuses.
Yes, it
does.
That started actually in 1980.
Wow.
Started in 72.
Right.
But I was a high school kid just starting in radio and I covered Bob Dole at a sale barn.
John Connolly at an all night diner in the hometown.
I mean, it was it was really exciting stuff.
And so every caucus cycle since I've done something for either print or radio or television.
And so it's kind of just kind of what we do around here.
And it's
So unique what one of the things I found in talking to the candidates especially those who are bumping along at two and four percent They are the ones going to pizza ranch.
They are the ones who are stopping by at local coffee shops To a person they talk about how impressed they are with Iowans now that may sound like polishing the apple but I can detect
They're really serious, and as they point out, they get better questions from citizens than they get from so-called journalists, and they really appreciate the fact that Iowans take this role seriously, and that's why it's so important, in my view, to retain it.
Well, I think Jeff, a lot of it is, is that there's, you know, day-to-day real questions.
I use that quote because, you know, it is the kitchen table, the coffee shop questions.
It's not the Beltway questions of inside politics.
It's the bread and butter that really makes the Iowa caucuses that important issue.
Well, absolutely.
And that's why the problem with big cities generally and the coasts and the Beltway in particular, it's so insular.
It's so insulated.
Here's a great example.
I like to watch Twitter.
I'm not obsessed by it, but that is sort of my social media of choice just because of the format.
Well, as we all know this past week, Governor DeSantis decided to launch his presidential campaign with a technology plagued Twitter Spaces conversation.
All of the national journalists were talking about how this would be
the metaphor for his failing campaign, the fact that it crashed and burned from the start, et cetera, et cetera.
At that same time, however, a journalist was actually talking to voters attending a Tim Scott event in Northwest Iowa.
And they wanted to, the journalist wanted to know, well, what do you think about the census and the Twitter fail?
And is this going to be fatal to his effort?
And again, to a person, the Iowa voters said,
We have no idea what you're talking about.
We don't care.
We don't really get all caught up in Twitter.
We're here to see Tim Scott.
When Ron DeSantis comes to town, we'll see him.
There is such a disconnect between the elites and people on Main Street.
So to your excellent point, you're going to get better questions from Iowans because they actually have to worry about feeding the world, about producing equipment, about all of the things and care deeply.
They're not standing there at their kid's soccer match, you know, playing with their phone and saying they're a good parent.
We don't do that around here very much.
Jeff, it's so organic, and that's why I love this process.
They're stripped away from just their little echo chamber with the elites.
I think of two great stories.
Mitt Romney, who never cussed, smoked, or drank, walking into an Iowa Veterans Hall,
that was so smoke filled you couldn't see the other side of the room booze was pouring everywhere and people were dropping F bombs on him because he was a Republican the other great story 76 Morris K U doll the great Arizona representative the tall Lincoln S figure is walking through a diner
hi i'm oh you don't i'm running for president some kind of overall says yeah we know we was just laughing about that the other day you know the sense of humor that all these parties have jeff
well and again you got real people here you know and i mean that's the key and you can learn a lot about how the country but what makes the country work what makes the country great you learn that by just going up and down
rural areas of the country, and I'm partial to Iowa, obviously, but the Midwest in particular, I mean, this is where it all really happens.
This is the heartbeat of America, not to steal a car ad slogan.
And to have a process like the Democrats have proposed, and actually it's not the Democrats, it's the Joe Biden wing of the party
he's the incumbent, so he's in charge.
Okay.
Iowa rejected him multiple times in both the caucuses and a general election since
1988 to be precise since 1988.
Well remember the plagiarized quote from the British leader happened at the 1987 Iowa State Fair before the 88 caucuses.
Neil Kinnock if I yeah Neil Kinnock great memory Jeff.
He didn't get out of Iowa in 2008.
Obama Biden ticket lost He lost then the carcasses in 20.
I mean you just go on it on so he's giving a middle finger to Iowa, but it's not just that it's The entire central and mountain time zone.
right.
Yeah, everything.
Yeah, just absolutely It's just absolutely ridiculous in terms of
how they think that by going to Michigan, they're covering the
No, this is all payback.
South Carolina is payback for resurrecting a dead campaign.
Yeah,
he owes Clyburn.
Yeah, this is a solid for James Clyburn.
Sure, absolutely right.
It's so transparent.
That's the thing.
It's so transparent.
It's laughable.
And I don't know how you fight against those back room
things other than to as you do every week shine the light on.
Well here with the great Dr. Jeff Stein.
Doc, I predict that your technology on these Fridays and these other days when you ramp this up is going to be a little bit better than Elon was able to do with his guys the other night.
Here's what
I will
say.
We tested our systems
Before we start apparently the story did you did you guys see this where
no you're breaking news for us break this news for us Jeff we were unaware of this
Well, apparently the people at Twitter said yeah, we didn't test the system before we went live
okay.
What a great plan Wow
How do you not test the system?
I'm glad they're not charged with a rocket ship if I'm going to be flying on that rocket, you know.
Well, I had heard that Elon
had... You better just hope that he's not cross-platforming employees.
Well, I had heard that Elon was actually giving the employees in charge of Twitter one-way tickets on that rocket.
They were going to be shot
straight into the moon after what happened with that DeSantis deal.
Well, he has the ability and he'll drive them there in a Tesla.
So they may not get to the launch pad.
Well, they
don't have a charging station along the way.
The Trump people also did some epic master trolling of their own.
Jeff, I think this is going to be a knife fight that will make Reagan v Ford look like Rebecca, a Sunnybrook farm.
What say you?
You can already see it.
Yeah.
Because again, don't tangle with Trump.
All right.
He's the master at it.
And so if you're going to beat him, I don't know that, you know, a verbal fisticuff at every turn is going to do it.
What's interesting is the Trump approach.
Right now, he is welcoming everybody else to the
Nikki Haley enters the race.
Here's a news release that says how wonderful she is and welcome to the race.
Tim Scott, this past week, same thing.
Not the case with DeSantis.
And you'll notice DeSantis was going to be at the theme strip picnic in Northwest Iowa and then come to an Iowa GOP event Cedar Rapids.
Boom!
Trump plans a rally to upstage
it.
DeSantis is coming to Iowa to start his campaign.
Boom!
Trump comes back to Iowa so that he always has the last word.
It's sort of like what he's doing is saying, you go ahead and look at those other people, but don't forget who the original article is.
And so he just can come in for a comparison and is banking on the strength of his past experience.
Look, he has more than 50% support right now.
If you take everybody else combined, they don't beat him.
And so that's a real tough path for victory, especially for DeSantis, who's saying, I'm Trump without the drama.
I'm the successor to Trump.
Well, Trump's still here.
So a lot of people are going to say we're happy to talk about a successor when he's no longer there and that's not the case.
the Bastion confronting Eihart, like we try to do, the great Dr. Jeff Stein.
Think of the service that you and we both provide, Dr. Stein.
I mean, you're at one end of the state.
We're with you on weekends, but we're in the western part of the state the other time.
And think of how many Iowans, Scotty, that we're saving from simple Simon and
I have to go with Jeff Angelo.
You know, absolutely.
And that's
the one great thing about KXEL is you get those quick one-liners from Jacobson on a Saturday and a Sunday, Jeff.
I mean, how do you tell your sponsors that you're going to get that and keep them on board?
I don't mention,
John, when you go out and talk about the radio station, especially to clients or listeners, either one.
Oh, so you just told me you played dead
air.
sit there of its own volition.
Um, it's, it's sort of the, uh, the elephant in the room.
Everybody knows it, but none of us want to talk about.
Hey, Stein came all the way out to Omaha for our wedding, Scotty, a third of a century ago.
Hey, speaking of Omaha.
Jeff, would you be surprised that the Iowa fans have already drank all the beer out of Schwab Stadium with the Big Ten baseball finals and that Creighton will only play Iowa in basketball if it's A in November, B in Omaha, and C without Caitlin Clark?
I say they're cowards at Creighton.
Well, that's your alma mater.
You need to complain to the Alumni Association.
I'm
a Hawkeye, remember?
I'm a Hawkeye, Dr. Stein.
I'm a Hawkeye.
Don't tell him I went to that other place.
Well, you really want to get some dirt on Jacobson, Mr. Stein.
Last Saturday, we have evidence that Jacobson wore a Notre Dame t-shirt around in public.
And needless to say, there was a lot of hollering and hooplin' about that kind of situation.
The love and grace of Jacobson packed all my t-shirts.
She didn't wash my Des Moines Gun Club t-shirts.
and i wasn't going to wear a star wars t-shirt for crying out loud with luke solo in princess leia on there
well if you have one with luke solo that's that's the question
i was just going to say i don't
remember whatever whatever the
heck his name is
the broad thought i have on it's got is this
Anybody can lose a bet and have to wear a Notre Dame T-shirt.
I said that.
But the thing is, if he did it of his own volition, and he's not smart enough to know that if you turn it inside out, you have limited the damage, I can't help
you.
Well, it was kind of even funny.
Even the homeless guy at the corner was like, well, you're wearing that?
Well, you know, I heard the story that that's how John got the shirt because the homeless guy on the corner was giving it.
No, no, I have no interest in this.
Oh my goodness.
Jeff, back to the two web the two websites differentiate between those two.
I've gotten into them.
They're really great and kind of give our audience again.
When's the best time to tune in or archive for these?
Well, the problem is that it's an occasional theory, because we don't know when people will be in town, and so the best thing to do is to go to IowaTalkingPointsPlural.com, IowaTalkingPoints.com.
That's where all the information will be posted, and I think there may even be a way where you can get updates.
It's a work in progress, but IowaTalkingPoints.com is for the information.
to view a live stream of an event or video on demand.
It's IowaTalkingPoints.tv.
Very good, very good.
Well, this is a marvelous enterprise and Jeff, I congratulate you.
You're truly a pioneer in this and this kind of connects the state together.
Kind of reminds me of that first
Iowa sports network with Bob Hogue and Charm Sherman Jeff remember when they put together all those Iowa affiliated cities and had their own sure in-state sports network, so to speak
Well the Iowa television network pioneered college broadcast coverage absolutely right and this goes back a long ways the first play-by-play announcer was legendary news anchor Ron Steele
that's right director at the time and so he was actually the
the original play-by-play guy of Hawkeye basketball on the Iowa television network.
But I have to give credit to other people.
The folks at MUD had developed this technology.
Studio 5 at MUD is the entity, and we're looking to utilize their services in a variety of additional ways because they do car advertisements for other businesses as well around the country based in Iowa, good homegrown family business.
And they developed this technology and the prototype and they did a few things and said, would you like to jump on board?
And so the train was leaving the station, but I was able to grab onto the back before it picked up speed.
Hey Jeff, one quick final question.
It is Memorial Day weekend.
You've written a wonderful book on Iowans in their war service.
You talk about that book.
Is it still available?
Well, actually, it's a documentary.
We did a video documentary called From the Battlefront to the Homefront, Iowa Broadcasters Go to War, and it's kind of you to mention it.
It is, in fact, telling the stories of how Iowa journalists covered war from World War II through the First Gulf War, so it's a 50-year period, and it is available at TotallyIowa.com, and it's the journalist telling the stories
of how they covered iowans and it's uh... it's an interesting uh... portrayal i think anyway and hope others think so too totally i would dot com story can order that dvd
i i have it is it's it's a wonderful uh... uh... item and i was at your lecture jeff in north the morning there where you did such a that's a job with that and uh... just think jeff it's hard to believe nineteen eighty five
Total now of 38 years ago this August when we were those a woeful afterthought section Niners that they created in the law class of 88 just because they had oversubscribed and we were thrown together and I probably passed law school because you open up those radio studios and let the study group study there a nice peace and quiet those evenings
Well, the sad part is that we've known each other since 1985 and if you are now going to blame me For you getting through law school and inflicting that career on the world I'm just gonna stop answering the phone all together Already, I may just stop answering.
Yeah, I don't need I don't need that kind of pressure
I'd be more worried about the class action lawsuit.
It's gonna be filed
against you on
Tuesday
i i think that you're right on board uh... uh... well
i don't remember torturing nick johnson because he was the left-wing uh... lbj fcc appointee and i have a slightly different vantage point
slightly jacobson is a slightly different vantage point on anything hey what do you know what is entertaining
when you saw it for
Todd Starnes again, you national big shot.
Friday, June 2nd.
All right.
Ooh, that's a good, that's a good day.
We'll be listening in on Friday, June 2.
What time, Jeff?
It is live 11 in the morning till 2 in the afternoon.
Todd Starnes.com or we air it on the blowtorch of KXEL Friday night, 8 to 11 p.m.
I have Robert Bork, Jr.
confirmed to be on the program to talk about his father's legacy and antitrust law.
Judge Jeanine Piro was on the program.
to talk about her new book, Crimes Against America, fridaytoddstarns.com, 11 a.m.
to 2 p.m.
Yeah, but you're very good.
You'd bring back Robert Bork Sr.
Come on, Jeff.
And as I've told you, that's the stuff I leave for Art Bell.
Hey, Scotty and I asked for a late night UFO show.
You still haven't delivered.
What up, man?
You get a sponsor and we'll talk.
The great Jeff Steif, our studio audience.
Rip Roaring with applause here.
Congratulations on these great landmark achievements, Jeff.
We will talk to you soon.
Thanks for joining us this weekend.
Guys, it's always a pleasure.
Have an excellent time and a safe weekend.
There he is, the great one, the patriarch at KXEL, our nation's very first 50,000 watt clear channel, caroming across the big 10 states on the exclusive Western Hemispheric 1540 AM signal, 100.5 out of Cedar Rapids.
And on that podcast, kxel.com slash Jacobson, J-A-C-O-B-S-E-N.
Tim Grover joins us.
We got to play our special report music again.
and Mike Shane one more time.
The great, great bumper of our studio engineer, Mike Shane.
This music means something big's going on.
And Tim Grover was texting live and telling us Scotty that he had heard the news.
And Tim Grover, very interesting.
I have to play Mr. Grover.
There's a sound effect that you sent me.
I wonder if it has something to do with the Iowa sports news that we broke today.
Let me play your sound clip that you sent to me Scotty
Only Tim Grover could give us Ethel Merman's version of everything's coming up roses and roses as if the Iowa Hawkeyes don't cover those roses.
You know absolutely Tim it's a great day in Hawkeye Nation.
Your thoughts on the retirement.
I use that in quotation marks of Gary Barter from Athletic Director.
Yeah that was great.
There were some rumors floating around that he might retire and become head of engineering at Twitter for a while there.
Uh, I wasn't too surprised about that.
Oh, I figured I heard he was going to be ahead of sales at the Bud Light and Target.
I figured that's where he was going to go to, uh, the way he can, uh, really destroy a marketable program.
But, uh, you know, Tim, you're in Eastern Iowa right now.
Uh, I've been texting all last few days with some, uh, donors and some alums there.
It is a, I can't.
really describe it.
It's almost as if Hawkeye Nation has a giant smile on its face.
They feel like an albatross has been lifted off the program.
Yeah, exactly.
And really we have a shot at some roses now.
So some real roses for what?
You know, I've always been one.
You just give me a Rose Bowl when I'm happy.
You know,
John, if I won the Rose Bowl, I fear for my liver because it would be a tremendous, tremendous accomplishment.
Scotty, I came into this world in 1960.
The last I have a Rose Bowl win was 1959.
I have not lived in my three score plus years to see
a Rose Bowl victory.
I, too, want to see that.
I want to see the promised land before I check out.
You know, that's a great point.
And I just did a little research before the program started, Tim, is that since 1947, Iowa has only had seven athletic directors.
And I would make the argument that Bump Elliott is probably the greatest athletic director at the University of Iowa.
He was there the longest.
Your thoughts moving forward on who could possibly
it.
Is it Beth Goetz who was at Ball State in the finalist at Wisconsin or is it somebody else that we just don't know about right now?
Well, you know me.
I'm usually out of the box and I'm probably out of left field, too.
That's
why
we love you, man.
Thank you, buddy.
But I would I would I would use part of salary and get myself a couple good assistant athletic directors and make Kirk the coach and athletic director.
Well, that would not be the first time it's happened because, uh, the great Eves Chesky was football
coach,
won the Rose Bowl, won a national championship and then he moved on to be
at Bob Devaney, Barry Alvarez.
We've had multiple such situations.
That's my thinking.
There's Alvarez.
Yeah,
but give Kirk a chance to put his stamp on the Iowa flag program.
Uh, you
know, he's, he's, he's been there a long time.
He's as big of an icon as, as Hayden became.
And, uh, you have a chance to put a stamp on this.
All he needs is a couple of systems that do the day-to-day work.
As long as Brian Farance doesn't report to him, though, Tim.
Huh?
As long as Brian Farance doesn't report to him.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
But, uh, I would, it'd be interesting because I think, uh, I think we underestimate Kirk.
Kirk is not a good interview.
Let's be honest about that.
He's not a press man.
Yeah, but I do believe he knows how to organize things and set an agenda I know have we really had any trouble with the team so much as far as Discipline or anything over the
years.
It's amazing.
They've gone to a bowl game 95% of the years that he's been coaching I mean he's in his close to 27th or eighth year.
I think they've only missed a bowl
four times and a couple of those were early on when he was building the program.
It's really...
an incredible run in terms of getting the bowls.
You know, and that brings up a great interesting point that you both are making is that the new athletic director, whoever it is, will have to make some serious changes moving forward because, you know, Lisa Bluter, Fran McCaffrey and Kurt Farrance are all in their 60s.
They're not going to be around probably the next five to 10 years.
That's a great point, Scotty.
Five years, we might see a wholesale change there just because of aging.
And then you bring in USC and UCLA coming into the conference.
Who knows what the conference
is going to look like the next time the media deal is up in seven years.
We could be at a 20 or 24 team conference.
So there is going to be some interesting times moving forward in Iowa City at the athletic department.
But if I was Iowa, I'd actually model my search.
And if it is not Beth going to, it sounds like it probably will be her.
I'd look at somebody like a Jamie Pollard.
Look at what Jamie Pollard has done at Iowa State.
And as much grief as I give Iowa State fans, he has done a tremendous job in that athletic department.
Yeah, it's very much Iowa.
You think of Iowa there with Iowa State sports.
I mean, it's very grassroots.
reflective of Iowa values, I think.
So yeah, he's done a pretty good job there, I would
say.
And I'm not saying we should go higher, Jamie Pollard.
It's kind of the model I would look at moving forward.
But John, it's an interesting comment, too.
In the last 25 years, look at the impact Iowa has had on college sports.
You had Bump Elliott.
Then Bump Elliott went down to Kansas State with Bill Snyder.
Barry Alvarez was at Iowa under the great Hayden Fry.
Look what he did at Wisconsin,
his head coach.
Stoops.
Bobby Stoops, you know, Mark Stoops, all those Stoops brothers.
It's very interesting how everything kind of circles back to the University of Iowa in the heydays of the 1980s.
Even America needs farmers and how that
reach out now manifest to the Children's Hospital.
We have so much to be proud of at Iowa.
It's great legacy of racial integration and as Tim alludes to really running clean programs.
Great comments from Tim Grover guys.
We've got to segue into our final segment and give some props.
to Barbara Hames Bryant here, and her recent award, Great Matriarch of Commerce that she is in Cedar Rapids.
Thanks, Tim Grover, as always, for being part of the panel.
Thanks, guys.
Scotty, we saved the best for last here, but a tip of the fedora
A tip of the hat to Barbara Haymes Bryant.
These wonderful people at Haymes Homes.
I literally drove through their communities on Thursday, Scott.
It is beautiful there.
The landscaping, absolutely perfect.
They've got the streets paved beautifully.
These are communities of about 3,000 people at the two communities at Haymes Homes.
They're in Southwest Cedar Rapids.
They have just been awarded
Barbara Haymes Bryant and Troy Haymes, her brother, now in this generational family business of manufactured homes, just been awarded from Connect for a Cause for their excellence and generosity in the food pantry that they have there that feeds regularly at least five to six hundred people a week.
These are great community servants in addition
to their legacy of providing safe, affordable, beautiful, and spacious homes for families in eastern Iowa, Scott.
You
know, that's a great point, John.
And, you know, with the homes like that that they have there, they are secure.
They have a great neighborhoods.
And the best part about it, it's like a small town, but with the big city amenities.
And you can check them out there at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road.
Dial them up on the telephone at 319-377-
four eight six three and schedule a tour and move forward because as we know with the economy kind of sluggish right now they have just great competitive rates moving forward too.
Yeah they've got financing give them a look on the web at www.hameshomes.com this H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S
www.hameshomes.com Get out there to their wonderful communities there and Scotty, I was out there that area Southwest.
I was just percolating with residential commercial.
It's just robust, healthy affluent Iowa.
And yet they're in a rural landscape because they are on the outskirts of town.
And I've got to tell you, I've gone through both summit view and grand view, both of their adjacent communities.
And you go to their headquarters, their management on site, flying that POW MIA flag.
They've got financing, Scotty, as you said, they've got their safety people, their onsite maintenance people.
You can't do better than Hames Homes.
They have been are and always will be the Homes people.
Thank you, Barbara Hames Bryant.
And congratulations on your award for the generosity of your family continuing to this very day with your receiving the Connect for a Cause Excellence Award for your food pantry work.
Well Scotty, this was a wonderful show again today breaking news as always We had the patriarch Jeff stein on with us giving his imprimatur to the show Scotty, I'm gonna just say it is Pentecost Sunday weekend Billions of Christians celebrate 50 days after that Resurrection Sunday that Easter Sunday Check out our podcast at KXEL
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