KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - April 15, 2023

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We're going to have our round table our weekly round table with yours truly Scott Corey Super Hawk Tim Grover from the Mississippi Riverside of the state Chip Reidman from the Missouri Riverside of the state and later on in the show will have dr. Ted Fogarty on we've got some inside scoop on the Bobby Kennedy for president announcement and campaign upcoming in the Democratic primaries Barbara Hames Bryant

on with us about housing needs in the area.

And Scotty, let's do our McLaughlin intro here because we're gonna talk about a whole potpourri of things here.

I think we can start with sports, Scotty.

So I'm gonna let you throw it out to Govermeister and Reedman here.

Maybe we can talk about conference developments.

Issue one, issue one.

What's the latest in conference?

info here as we cover our Hawkeyes our Cyclones our

Panthers and our Bulldogs.

You know, it is a great day for the Big Ten because on Monday, Kevin Warren is no longer the commissioner of the Big Ten.

Yeah, I'm so happy.

I'm happy.

I can read.

I can retire my fire, Kevin Warren, hashtag for right now.

But since I'm a Bears fan, I'll probably have to re-up that come October.

But the four Bears, the Bears.

But Chip and then Tim, I'd like to get your thoughts on the naming of the new Big Ten commissioner, Tony.

He's not a well-known person outside of the sports sector because he has done a lot though But once you look at his resume, he is a powerhouse.

He has been at ABC.

He's been at ESPN CBS MLB He created helped create the MLB network He was one of the main men that created the BCS would eventually with Jim Delaney the then Big Ten commissioner moved along into the

playoffs as now they are expanding.

I believe this is the man we need to move forward as the Big Ten Commissioner to battle ESPN as well as the SCC moving forward.

Chip Reidman, your thoughts on the Big Ten Commissioner?

I have to agree with you.

It seems like a very good decision at this point.

Like anything, maybe Kevin Ward might have looked good at the moment, but yeah, his bona fides are very, very good.

The network side is definitely a plus when it comes to handling everything Big Ten commission-wise.

It's very obvious now that it's TV that's driving all of the conferences now.

That's the source of all the money, like if they follow the money, and it's very obvious that it's all going to come down to whatever the TV contracts are because that's going to be the income that's going to pay for all their extravagances that they want to have, new arenas.

stadiums.

If they do want to be able to get players stipends at some point, you don't know what that's going down the road.

I know we got NIL out there, but that's technically not part of the conference.

I think it's just a very, very good move because the guy knows the inside and out.

He knows all the people.

He probably even knows where all the skeletons are in the closet.

And he probably helped put some of them there too.

Yeah, he might be the guy that would be able to do the best negotiating that we could hope for.

One last thing about Kevin Warren as we watch the door hit him usually on the behind on the way out, is he has two good things that he did.

One is the USC and UCLA, which definitely cracked a huge wedge in the conference out there, the Pac-12.

And he did cut a good TV deal.

But other than that, his whole term has been a disaster.

You could blame it on COVID, that's fine.

I blame him for the response.

I blame him for his terrible response to COVID.

Thank goodness for the University of Iowa, the University of Nebraska and Ohio State for saving that football season.

I don't want any more, Kevin Warren.

Go back to Notre Dame.

Go back to wherever.

Get a federal judgeship from Joe Biden.

Don't go away mad.

Just go away, Kevin.

That's a great point.

Tim Grover, I'd like to get your thoughts on the naming of Tim Petiti as the new Big Ten Commissioner because he is going to be basically the face moving forward.

It is ironic that out of the 100 plus years of the Big Ten Conference, we've had seven commissioners and Kevin Warren is the shortest term commissioner.

Jim Delaney was the giant.

What are your thoughts on the naming of the new Big Ten

Commissioner?

To quote a past Super Bowl champion, I'm going to Disneyland.

The guy was so woke.

He must not have slept you so well.

Yeah, he did a couple good things, but other than that, I mean, you want to talk about somebody who, you know, compliant in that.

He was a poor leader to young people.

I totally agree with Reedman.

TV is going to be very, very important in the current recession that we are in.

Yeah, I said current recession we are in.

A lot of people are not going to be able to access life going to sports life.

So sports is going to be important.

It's going to be important with these NILs that we see young people like Kate and Clark with the values to have that kind of money dumped in their lap and use it responsibly.

Yeah, I applaud that great way.

I do not know much about the new commissioner.

But if he knows where the skeletons are and has put a few in there already, I think it's a step up.

You know, John, I think it's very interesting that they went with this decision because I had forgotten and I was reminded reading one of the articles.

I think it was maybe from SI or maybe the athletic.

He was on the shortlist the last time around when the big tank presidents and chancellors went with Kevin Warren.

So he was on their radar.

And I think having that MLB plus

media experience he knows how to deal with cranky people and you have a conference coming in where you have an Ohio State you have a Rutgers you have an Iowa you have a Nebraska and now you're bringing on

two California schools and, you know, all of the signs point to even more Big Ten expansion moving forward, maybe in this new deal, if not the next new deal.

I think he's the right kind of temperament to handle that.

He almost has the temperament of a Jim Delaney, it seems like.

Yes, Scott, I think you're spot on there.

And you alluded earlier to the fact that he also has that BCS experience.

So not only does he have the media savvy,

CBS ABC and MLB but he's put together he's had to negotiate a fluid environment to set up Bracketology if you would even in football we've essentially now got a national semi-final that could come to a national quarter final pretty soon the whole way that the BCS vetted those out I think he's equipped experientially

to move to this next step of a true national championship that still suffers from the vicissitudes of

uh... subjectivity i would say

you know and if he can handle like the owners of the new york yankees and in everything else he can handle these presidents and commissioners i think he's the right man for the job uh... we also have a breaking news uh... that the colorado uh... board of regents are meeting on monday and i'm reading a press release from their statement saying they will be going into special session to discuss

legal athletic matters.

Now Chip and Tim, we all have heard the smoke most recently and this is coming all across well respected reporters as well as outlets that Colorado is looking to jump back to the Big 12.

Get your thoughts on that.

Is Colorado alone?

Do other schools go along with them to the Big 12?

And we all know Oregon and Washington have met with Big 10 officials to get in

to the Big 10, how desperate is the Pac-12 to stay alive?

And is this the reason why they do not have a deal?

And now with the Big 10 naming its commissioner, is the Pac-12 going to survive the next year?

Go ahead, Tim Grover.

We'll start with Tim and then go over to Chip.

Yeah, I don't know.

The Pac-12 is just looking at it from an outside fan point of view that don't really follow them intently.

They're definitely not a defensive conference in any of their sports.

You know, you better be able to score if you're going to compete in that league.

But they got a unique situation in that they still have free college in California yet, don't they?

Yes, you're correct.

With the

state, with the state regents schools, yes.

Yeah, so the incentive of getting a free education hurts them for recruiting, I think, and I think that's starting to show.

Interesting.

You know, I think that's a big factor in it.

But, you know, these commissioners, they're all going to have to be able to juggle a lot of things, because you've got a lot of demographics floating around out there.

I hate to see the Big 12 go away.

Big 12 is a strong, traditional...

The Pac-12.

Pac-12.

Oh, okay, you're talking about Pac-12, okay.

Yeah.

I'm still thinking like Colorado was, and you know, but...

Yeah, the Pac-12 was the saddest purpose.

They were kind of like, you know, when I was younger, always kind of, well, they were the place we all went to in January when it's cold here and

it's

nice and hot.

They've had their purpose, you know.

Yeah.

And so, yeah, you don't want to see him go away entirely.

Chip Reuben, your thoughts.

You are a Husker fan.

What are your thoughts of, you know, Colorado jumped to the Pac-12?

The same reason basically why Nebraska and Missouri left to go to the

Big

Ten and SEC because of the

issue in Austin, Texas.

And now it seems like that issue in the Austin has gone to the SEC and that's now Nick Saban's problem.

But now at the same time, Colorado is not going to get paid and they're seeing that the big 12 is actually going to make more money and everybody's being left in the dust by the big 10.

There's a lot of things to look at in regards to Colorado.

I've never been a fan of theirs, obviously being a Nebraska fan.

Well, I can remember a couple of Black Friday games that were pretty awesome.

Well, I also remember a game where the referees cleared one entire section of the stadium out because the fans were throwing stuff on the field.

They actually stopped the game.

They have fly-by-night fans.

The state is mostly a pro-oriented

state.

Yes.

Yes.

Go, fine, go to the big 12, that's fine.

They do have some name recognition, although their days are long, long past, like when you go back to probably the 70s and the 80s.

The rivalry that

McCartney ginned up was that McCartney ginned up was, there were a few years there where you really had a de facto rivalry, but boy,

it just seems to have dissipated.

Yeah, it was the right way to put it.

It was not a natural, or you probably can come up with a word, you know, from the ground.

Right, it wasn't organic thing at all.

No,

you're right, you're

right.

It wasn't an organic development at all.

I'm even kind of still saying, you know, looking at Nebraska, Iowa, you know, I'm waiting for that to be more organically developed rather than the media pushing it out there.

Yeah, because it is.

I mean, it's getting there.

but Colorado is just never there.

It is true.

It has not been a rivalry on the field.

Iowa's basically owned Nebraska since joining the conference.

Hey, I love it, by the way, guys.

A lot

of school.

But you

you are on your spring game though next Saturday for our listeners in eastern Iowa Nebraska has gone ahead and they're bringing back Frank so much to honor him trying to resurrect some of those They're trying to break the curse Is it true that Chip that at some point you and Bo Polini will go on the field with the cat

and raise it up to finally break the curse completely?

No, I haven't gotten that phone call yet.

So maybe it's coming.

Maybe I just got to go and check my spam folder when you're there for an email.

Yeah, the curse is right.

Also, just give him his due.

He had a great career.

He did fine in Nebraska, nine and three and you're fired.

I mean, that's absolutely just disgusting to even go through that.

But we went to Ohio, had a good career there.

He's a native son, just because he's been involved in the high school sports around here.

I guess he was technically from Ohio, but he just has so much history in the state of Nebraska.

I think it deserves his recognition.

And it's probably about time to get that done.

Very good, guys.

We're going to go to issue two.

We're coming right at you from Cedar Rapids Waterloo Iowa City area, but I am going to posit that the University of Iowa is America's team However last night CFB home tweeted Iowa is not beloved by all here are a few teams that dislike Iowa Minnesota Iowa State Nebraska

Penn State.

Scott, is that because they're losers and always lose to

the Hawkeyes?

Absolutely.

And I feel really happy about that list.

You can look about.

You can look at some of my comments on Twitter about that.

I was very happy and laughed it up quite a bit.

And it's interesting, though, that's what makes college sports great is you have the rivalries and things along those lines.

And, you know, Nebraska doesn't like us.

I'm very crestfallen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And those

up north they really don't like us and I really don't care but at the same time it's one of those great things and it's funny we talk about the rivalries and everything that's what makes sports so exciting and right now I say that this is what is helping drive everything in Iowa it seems like with the way Lisa Bluter and the women's basketball program has taken off nationally we have so much attention on the University of Iowa that we are so great

And I've put it out there the other day that we need to redo Lisa's contract immediately to get her over a million dollars that we need to pay Jan Jensen, the assistant head coach as well.

But you judge it by who you don't like and boy, that's a good program right there not to be lumped into.

I'm waiting for the Iowa State to wear their traditional black jerseys again, Chip Reidman.

By the way, Chip Reidman, North Carolina really doesn't like Creighton.

I'm not some interesting comment.

Every school has a list like that.

Again, like I said earlier, it's a media-driven deal.

Just someone going out and creating a poll.

I'm sure you could probably say the same about Nebraska, find a bunch of schools that probably hate Nebraska.

We all know you can do that about Ohio State because, what is it, 14 teams in the conference?

So we know all 13 have one common enemy in Ohio State.

So yeah, there's always going to be that kind of thing going on.

It's, you know, Cale and Clark did have a good run.

It is women's basketball.

It will pass its time.

We'll eventually move on to football and then it'll be a whole new topic.

Um, has there been a decision as to whether she's going to stay or

she will be back next year?

Um, she said that she does have another, uh, possibility to come back for a six year due to the COVID year.

So waiting to see, I do know, uh, from some donors that they're working on some major NIL.

We got to

get that Stanford girl

to

sign the one Iowan utilize the portal.

We've got an open slot.

We need a big post player and.

that young lady from stanford would be the perfect fit

scottie do you think we can get her i think there's a chance and we have a great core we have katelyn clark coming back we have marshal back as well as uh gabby gabby and so we're going to be in great shape and so moving forward it's going to be interesting and as chip as you mentioned too you know tim grover we have to

start pivoting because we're coming to the end of the athletic year which means we're in July and August and there's going to be some I think some changes in the athletic department moving forward.

Tim Grover are you hearing anything in your neck of the woods?

No not so much you know I think the women's basketball situation

settled a lot of that down a lot.

You know, the things are working good.

Yeah.

I'm amazed.

I never knew Lisa's not making the many dollars.

Is she about the only coaching?

Is it?

No, there's a few others in the conference that are not.

She's at 800.

And some thousand and she had 300,000 and bonuses for making it to the championship game So she was over a million by the end of the end of the season and so but her base salary absolutely needs Well,

here's the deal Tim Grover

with that.

Well, I'm just talking

Iowa

staff.

Oh Yeah, that might be because I

think certainly

Yeah, certainly the basketball and football are making it.

And Tim, here's the deal.

Are you telling me Bart did not give her pretty close to the same compensation the men are getting?

That is very true.

Let's just say she is paid on the same level as Brian Farrance.

Well,

Tim, here's the deal now with them reissuing and opening up last week season tickets for the women's games.

They were going to be at capacity.

They literally had to temporarily shut down the processing because you've got different tiers in pack.

Is that to figure things out?

It looks very possible, Scotty.

Like she's going to have more butts in seats than maybe even the men's team next year in

Carver.

Yep.

Absolutely.

And you know, I've said to Tim that the issue is not Carver Hawkeye arena.

It's how Carver is set up during the men's game because you have a lot of fans that sit there and they knit during the game and they're not loud.

Looks like

the Potawatomi County Republican sense committee meetings are all dipped in formaldehyde nonagenarian.

Exactly.

And so I think there's a few things they can do.

They can move the students section on.

under one of the baskets and things like that.

There's a lot of wasted space there and redo it.

And I think moving forward though, it's basically Lisa Bluter's court until she proves otherwise.

Yeah, I gotta agree.

She's made the splash.

Also, I haven't been there for a long time.

But the last time I was there, again, you're looking at

A lot of times you get seats from alumni, they're in their 70s or so, and they show up with certain gains.

The 60s are 70 years old.

And it's very tight seating in there.

The last time I was in there.

And it's deep stairs.

And they hang out around the top, and then they come down.

Especially the closer you get to the floor, the seating is very tight.

So probably a refill on the seating and a little more comfort.

And maybe you'd lose a few seats, but you could also raise the two prices for the comfort.

You know, Scotty, and Tim, and Chip Redman, I'm just reflecting the great Miller six-pack team that went on that undefeated tear all the way through that perfect Big Ten season in 69-70, the co-eds who were cheering at the field house during that season.

as college kids at the University of Iowa, rockously cheering at the field house.

Sophomores, juniors take midpoint age there of an undergrad.

They are 74 years of age now.

So those 74-year-olds at Carver Hawkeye might have been those teenagers jumping up and down that field house.

It's just amazing how fast time flies.

And we are farther away now from Niall Kinnick.

And when I was at law school at Iowa, we're almost as far away now as we are from this point in time, back to the poldak, Larry Lawrence, 68 season, and that Miller six pack team is incredible.

You know, you bring a great point about that.

And I've said this on the show and other shows that we do, John.

Katelyn Clark is now surpassed, Nile Kinick.

In my opinion on Hawkeye lore and she still has two years to cement that and take it even further and Chip I'd like to get your thoughts as somebody who is not a part of the Iowa establishment and program on your thoughts on that and this is no slight This is no slight whatsoever.

What Nile Kinnick did.

He was a Heisman trophy winner We named the stadium after him, but Caitlin Clark has wrapped up all the awards this year She took Iowa to a national championship game.

She gave it her all they had

I mean LSU played a great game.

They were on fire take nothing away from their shooting the questionable calls and Kim Mulkey's actions were outrageous during that game.

Yeah, but at the same time Caitlin Clark has galvanized

not only the state of Iowa, but the nation.

She is the face, I would say, of basketball.

When you have Patrick Mahomes, Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas, The Rock, you know, they're doing skits about her on Saturday Night Live.

I forgot Saturday Night Live was even on.

You know, how far can Caitlyn Clark take this?

I think there's

still a lot of headroom.

There's a lot of movement that they can probably generate with her.

especially coming back another year uh... i thought you're going to go to should be naming something after her

that that will happen

yeah and i think you've got to give that i think you've got to get that you know ten years or you know sometime letter get into the pros letter develop some kind of a record uh... i think some schools have done that on short order and then live to regret it i'm not saying that she would do something bad down the road but you surely don't want to be too ambitious about it and find out that

You know, she's got a skull in her closet or something.

But I'd say she's definitely on the road to having something named after her.

The court is the court at the arena.

Is that named after someone?

Like they did Thomas Bornfield at Memorial Stadium.

Is that a possibility?

If she develops the women's program, are they going to do like Creighton did where they actually have their own arena or something?

for the women's programs, like creating it for women's basketball and women's volleyball.

It will be something that she could generate.

Chip, it will be so

fascinating.

It will be absolutely fascinating because where we're at right now, I believe, is where will she go from here?

She's such a grounded young lady.

out of Dowling Catholic.

Her parents are just superb people.

She has her head screwed on straight and I don't think at this point she's going to allow herself to be co-opted for anybody's political agenda.

Her PR team has shown some adroitness actually in how they've handled some of the recent things.

I'm beginning to think that the only thing that can stop Caitlin's Clark's offensive productivity is Brian Farance himself.

But you know Tim Grover your thoughts on Caitlyn Clark moving forward I think she is the face of not only men's women's basketball, but men's basketball because Everybody in the country is talking about her.

She trends they come out to see her.

She's on the Dan Patrick show ESPN Gets your on regularly.

It's basically Caitlyn Clark's world.

We're living in it

Yeah, you know

If I had to think of a typical Iowa girl, I'd think of Katelyn Clark.

Yep.

Yep.

Like he would, uh, not okay.

In fact, I think I was starting to see this theme growth guy.

I think I've seen a couple shows where they're, they're, they're comparing her to now, Kenny.

And, you know, the reason she's getting compliments from these men is because she sits out there by the her key local logo.

Yeah.

And she's nothing but that.

Yep.

Yep.

And it's not just every once in a while.

It's several times a game.

Yep.

yep exactly

like it nothing but net and she's pretty much out there shooting off a her key feet and uh... uh... that that's pretty darn impressive but to get into uh... uh... you know going back to the kennec era you know that's during the bay brook and all that you know for years with we've uh... for years in this country

who sports heroes were in their daily lives wasn't important to us.

And I think going forward, how old does Caitlin need to be to be governor right now?

I think we worry too much about people being too perfect.

We want them to be perfect.

And if she's got issues in her life that has nothing to do with her,

fail to hit the bottom of the net from Hercules Beach.

Yeah, but it is to make there is nothing out there that we know of and so we're just saying if there was anything You know, she's she's just you know talk about what she's done the food bank was going to actually pay her to Her and I yell to do it and she did that support for free John and she made she's doing a couple camps this year one in the morning

saw her with the special needs kids California with wooden she's genuine.

She's authentic.

She's

an Iowan

Absolutely, you know, and she's doing a couple clinics this year, one in Des Moines, one in Iowa City.

They were very reasonably priced.

And I mean, she is what you'd say a true Iowan.

Scott Corey, when you hear that sounder from the great Mike Shane, you know something important is afoot as these 50,000 watts carry them across this continent to all of our

Big Ten States and especially to our beloved listeners between Des Moines and Clinton and the Quad Cities and Dubuque and Iowa City and Cedar Rapids and Waterloo, John Jacobson with Scott Corey and Mike Shane.

And it is time on the road to the White House to take a look.

Scotty, things are really starting to take shape now.

We've seen a lot of GOP candidates dip their toes in the proverbial water while the Colossus himself is embroiled in all of his issues.

And we would be remiss if we did not look at the democratic side of the aisle.

We have what I think could be a changer.

in the race.

And we're joined here again with regular commentator on our show, the great Dr. Ted Fogarty, studio audience on their feet, Ted from the Okuboji Spirit Lake area, and we've got just a tremendous ability here with Ted today to open up the announcement last week by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

that he will seek the Democratic nomination for president and run against Joe Biden.

Uh, this, he filed the requisite paperwork.

He gave a speech at Hillsdale.

Now politics, Scotty is strange bedfellows and you and I are rock, rib Republicans, but this is a very intriguing announcement.

And I think incredibly good for the body politic, for the public discourse.

We need Bobby Kennedy because he is the single person, I believe, who can focus the light on one of the greatest crimes in history, this homicidal conduct that occurred.

beginning with covid as it was unleashed from china and i think only bobby can get this to the public residence based on his skills as an accomplished trial attorney and the legacy being the nephew of the late president and the son of the late attorney general senator uh...

Did you share those

ideas, Scott?

I do, I do.

And I know John, you and I have had this conversation and I know a lot of other people have too that, you know, that we make the quip that if Jack Kennedy was alive today or even Bobby Sr.

was alive today.

They'd probably be Republicans.

That's all far to the left.

The Democrats have gone.

And what Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

is doing right now is he's actually running an insurgent campaign very similar to what his uncle Ted did against Jimmy Carter in 1980.

And he helped run his uncle's campaign in 1980.

Absolutely.

So it's very interesting.

And I look forward to see moving forward how how much sway that Kennedy name has with voters.

that are over 60, but the most important, the 30s and the 40s and the 50s.

How much sway does that Kennedy name still have with those voters?

Well, we're going to find out from someone who is an acquaintance, perhaps a friend, and who knows Bobby Kennedy very well.

But let's take a listen to just last weekend some introductory marks that Bobby Kennedy made at Hillsdale College.

I'm very, very happy to be here.

Can you hear me?

If you can't hear me, raise your hand.

I'm really happy to be here.

Although I've never been here before, it feels almost like a homecoming because of the incredible role that this institution played during COVID-19, where it was the only college left in the country that really stood up for freedom.

And, you know, as college was established in 1844, abolitionists were despised.

The vast majority, 90% of the people in our country, hated them and thought they were crazy and that they, you know, that they were unrealistic.

And it wasn't really until three years into the Civil War that it flipped.

And that, you know, the president came out and freed the slaves, and he couldn't do it because of just the public antipathy or abolitionism.

So it's really, this institution has an extraordinary history, and it's been very, very faithful to the values upon which it was established, which is this love of freedom.

no matter what public opinion, no matter what the public cost, no matter who pressures you to stop or to stand up for it.

And it's really a testimony to something special.

And the investment that has been made here, not in building a pile, teaching students to build a pile for themselves like most colleges and whoever dies with the most stuff wins.

but instead building character and demonstrating character.

Oh, thank you.

That's a good opening, Ted Fogarty.

I like the tone he set.

What could Bobby Kennedy bring to the public discourse that we desperately need?

Me as a Republican asking you this,

You from probably an Irish Democrat family originally in Omaha, but you're probably more aligned with us now.

Put this into context for us, Dr. Fordy.

Well, this is huge.

Our nation no longer nation.

It is a nested, racketeering subsets that are running literally right out of the profession of medicine.

We've had a coup d'etat.

at some level, not by one individual, but by one profession.

Well, that's what Bobby Kennedy said.

He used that very word the other day when criticizing the federal health establishment.

He says, there's been a coup.

Continue, doctor.

I think you're on to something.

Well, and the fact of the matter is that there's no public figure in America right now who has the kind of integrity that Bobby Kennedy Jr.

has.

He's actually, you know, he's been in law practice.

He's been doing things for longer than his father had an opportunity to do.

And he really truly is this incredible bright light and genius of helping make things right, fighting corruption.

I mean,

You look at this man's career and he has taken on the biggest, most powerful entities.

Absolutely.

In the

world.

Absolutely

true.

In the world.

And we have a sitting president who's basically an agent of Communist China, whether actively or just passively.

He's going to get it.

We are marching Vox Step towards World War III because of his administration's policies.

I agree, Doc.

This terrifies me.

We literally are marching inexorably toward a nuclear exchange based on the madness, the insanity of the Biden foreign policy.

Yeah, and I don't care about these and ours.

I look at the human being and who they are.

Amen, brother.

And this country so badly needs Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

to win the Democratic nomination.

to actually show the world and America that there still can be a real election, because if he doesn't win, it's just another sign of all the election fraud that's gone on in the last five to seven years.

And we have this horrible, horrible situation where we legitimately do not have a real country.

We don't.

And we've been in martial law, basically, because of this smile weapons war.

Yep.

Yep.

You know, Dr. Fogarty, find it interesting that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

has kind of taken up the mantle, as we mentioned, of his father as well as his uncle, Jack Kennedy.

They were both anti-establishment type politicians in their own right.

When Jack was president, I mean, he stood up to the CIA.

He did not like a lot of the things that were going on there as we found out most recently in the last couple of months with the release of some of the files about how he basically

They said, I'm going to smash the CIA and do a thousand pieces.

We know Bobby Kennedy's war on the mob, as well as racketeering and things along those lines.

How dangerous of a game is he really playing and how far do you think he's willing to push this in order to be victorious?

He's going to go all the way.

There's no doubt about it.

And I just want to really kind of shine a light on what my medical mission has been in the Northern Plains with Dr. Albert Crum.

patented, antiviral concept.

Dr. Crumb is from Omaha, and we had this Manhattan project for the defeat of the pandemic in one of the Harvard Club in New York City's storied rooms, which was one of the reception rooms for...

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'

's parents, and we are literally defining how to stop all pandemics now and forever, which has evolved into aircraft HBOT.org concepts, and then on the boots on the ground, the Aeronautics Performance Clinic, where we are handover fists.

We are rehabbing people's immune systems

who have been

damaged by the spike protein, by the vaccines themselves,

and

by the virus itself.

And so there is a very, very small interconnectedness here between Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

and Albert Crum and Paul Harch at LSU who penned in the English language the answers for Wuhan, China on the hyperbaric front for saving lives.

And so there literally is no other group of physicians

than

us in Iowa and Nebraska.

and the Dakotas,

who

are in my nexus, who are the great warriors and shield makers against this pandemic and anything else that comes down.

Dr. Fogarty I like to get your opinion and John's on this that where is the Democrat Party at right now because we have Robert F. Kennedy Jr Basically going to the right in a lot of ways of what Biden has done You have Tulsi Gabbard out there who has been very critical of the foreign policy of the United States as well as the Biden administration as well as Congress and it's spending and you have a Kennedy going to Hillsdale College that would be like Ronald Reagan rising from the

grave and going into Berkeley.

What is going on?

What is going on?

Well, Bobby clearly understands this is a spiritual mission.

It's a spiritual battle for America and all of us.

And he's just not going to let any of this ridiculousness and politics get in the way of helping save this country.

And that's exactly where the mainstream media is lambasting him as an anti-vaxxer.

And he and I have for years been working on the simple concept that we can vaccinate safer.

It's a matter of logic and reason.

There's no reason for a vaccine on day one of life to interfere with every child's maternal relationship.

And I personally also believe that is why we have a whole lot of gender dysphoria and dysfunction in this country.

It's from 40 years of vaccines on day one of life.

She is the safety guard with me and we are going to change this whole thing.

Here with Dr. Ted Fogarty, Omaha native.

And doc, just as we wrap up here, a human vantage point during this whole COVID thing, we've seen families split right down the middle.

In my family, we've got siblings.

just dug in at both sides of this issue.

I'm obviously totally anti Fauci and for medical freedom in every aspect.

I've got other family members who bought into all of the masking and all of the social isolation and you know, it's caused some strife.

even within my family, and I know it's got to be tearing it, Bobby, a little bit.

He's got siblings that are dissing him because of his stances on the issues.

Yeah, his own.

I just was reading through some of the media last night as I was reading films all across the country and in the great state of Iowa, in particular, from out of Nebraska.

And almost every one of these robojournalism pieces, including those from CNN, are saying in the last line, even if Sister Kerry says that on this matter, this issue, that this is a very dangerous stance of our brothers.

And, you know, it just goes to show you.

how problematic the power of medicine and public policy is when you start to realize that public policy, public health is de facto a violation of the Hippocratic Oath.

When you put a group of people ahead of your singular patient, when you put the needs of the state and herd immunity and the greater good,

ahead of your singular patient, you're violating the Hippocratic Oath.

And this

is

happening every single day and incrementally, much more frequently in the last 20 years.

And back in the 60s, before we had all these vaccines, there weren't any pediatricians or family practice docs running around making money to ensure for their insurance company executives and quality assurance numbers that they had 95% of their patients vaccinated.

When they

didn't feel like a vaccine was appropriate, they never get it in the 60s and 70s.

And it was never done with this kind of intensity.

From a radiological standpoint, if I were out there with the American College of Radiology saying, we need to do four head CTs on every child before the age of one, just to make sure there isn't a brain tumor or something in there so we can catch that one out of a million brain tumor in a kid, that's a radiation dose to the brain that is totally unethical and literally.

a waste of time and money.

And that's exactly what's going on with a lot of these vaccines.

You don't need a second vaccine.

You don't need a booster if you've had a response that is appropriate.

And yet no one is checking.

No one is actually putting that forth in medicine because we can't possibly go against what Big Pharma tells us.

We can't possibly go against what the CDC tells us and dictates to us.

because we have a nation of former physicians who are now just distribution agents for Big Pharma and they really aren't actually professionals.

Dr. Ted Forty, I will say this in my seventh decade.

I think this was, this is the greatest crime that has been perpetrated worldwide in my lifetime.

What was done during COVID was so evil and so homicidal.

I think it's the worst thing in my lifespan.

Dr. Ted, who'd have thought?

55 years ago, when I saw that 14-year-old young man who spoke at his father's funeral after the assassination, the eldest of 12 children, one in utero, Ethel, was expecting at the time.

Who'd have thought 55 years ago that he would be leading this charge?

Life is amazing with its twists and turns, isn't it, Dr. Fogarty?

It is, and I'm just here to say that I would have never thought that the Bill Gates-controlled governorship of Doug Burgum in North Dakota

would have its hands tied by the North Dakota Senate for ever writing a mask mandate to the great state of North Dakota because of what I taught the Senate.

Awesome, awesome.

Ted Fordy, you're our hero, man.

That's where we have you on.

You speak truth to power.

We want you back in a week or two.

And do you think we should take Bobby to the Dubliner in Omaha, a little Irish pub there of musical notes?

Yes, I think that would be phenomenally wonderful and a true, a true Omaha Irish experience.

It is the second greatest concentration of Irish in the country behind the Boston area.

And not only that, but his father gave that amazing campaign stop in North Omaha talking about poverty in North Omaha and then went down the Creighton campus and called out all those Creighton kids for their privilege of not having to go to Vietnam because they were punching their college exemption ticket.

He had them reeling by the end of that speech.

So the Kennedys are not afraid to

to talk truth to power, sometimes to their own harm and detriment.

Ted Fogarty, thank you for being with us today.

We'll have you back soon, my friend.

Sounds good, and thanks again, John, for being the barometric broadcaster of the Great Prairies.

You are the physician par excellence.

You are the uber doctor, Ted Fogarty.

Talk to you soon, my good, curative friend.

Scott, this is my favorite time of year.

Easter has come Resurrection Sunday.

It is springtime.

The Masters Golf Tournament.

We heard Cardinals.

We saw Azaleas.

And this is the time I've noticed in the real estate market that people are really starting to get out.

you know they've been hunkered down has been a long winter with an extended winter and not much spring but now the temps are popping so much so that we're seeing severe weather across the country but we've got

our favorite person in the world the Scott you

called her what

the

uh she's the Caitlyn Clark of uh the manufactured homes in there in the political world as well Barbara how do you juggle that and live up the high expectations that Caitlyn has set for us

Barbara Hames Brian take it away welcome again to show on Barbara

well thank you guys it's always a pleasure and regarding the Caitlyn Clark nobody meets

Caitlin Clark standard.

You can go ahead and flatter me all you want, but she's the one and only.

Well, you know, you're the one and only Barbara because your communities.

Oh, I was out there a few weeks ago.

Things have not all greened up yet.

They're going to be greening up pretty soon.

And in your

two communities there.

You've got these beautiful lawns and landscaping.

So impressive.

And what we'd like to talk about today with Hames Homes is the general concept of safety.

People obviously are looking for safety.

That's why they get home in the first place.

It's their stronghold.

It's their shelter.

It's their beacon of safety.

Your homes are safe in many different

Respects Barbara, the community itself, but also the sturdiness of the homes when Mother Nature strikes.

We sure found that out during the derecho of 2020.

All of our homes that were in our communities, none of them tipped over, none of them blew away.

Incredible.

Incredible.

2900 people.

Right.

We had 140 mile an hour winds for 45 minutes.

The roof blew off of our brick office.

Half a mile away, we had the side blow off of a commercial building, but all of our homes stayed right in place.

Now there was shingle damage, some skirting damage.

All of it was fixable, but in general, we were so astounded and pleased at how sturdy Haynes Manufactured Homes are.

They've always been great back from when your mom and dad Over 50 years ago.

We're marketing them to so many families that needed them Back in the day in council blossom area in Hiawatha.

You had people coming in to work at Collins radio now Rockwell on the Apollo moon shots and and the services you provided those families were wonderful, but

Technology continues to improve and half century later, they've got materials that stand up to terrible winds and rain and hail.

And for that, you can probably thank Curt Haymes back in the early 1970s before manufactured homes were tied down like they are today and installed like they are.

A tornado went through West Branch and knocked over some homes.

And my dad, Kurt Haymes, realized that manufactured homes would never be accepted unless they were believed to be safe.

So he worked with the Iowa legislature to create and implement the first tie down laws.

And that is part of the reason that the manufactured homes are so sturdy and well built today.

It

is a great testimony to Kurt Haymes, a great man.

I knew him.

my family knew him and your your wonderful mom Norma they continue to be icons in the community by legacy through yours and Troy's and the rest of your family members that are so involved with the business Barbara.

You know, that's the great thing about having a family-owned business that you operate, Barbara, is that you have that wealth of knowledge spread out through so many generations, through trial and error, and you know what's right for the people.

But you also go that extra step, don't you, when it comes to your homes, because you do a screening process, too, to make sure you get people that are on the up and up and so that people feel safe in your communities as well.

Yes.

Anybody who lives in a Haynes community, Grandview and Summit View in Southwest Cedar Rapids, goes through a background and a credit check before they move in.

I don't think a lot of people understand that a manufactured housing community is actually a private neighborhood and it's managed and owned and operated as a private neighborhood.

It's a great

point, Barbara, to bring up.

That's a very important, very salient point.

Yes, so that's how we have the right and the obligation to screen residents before they move in.

So if you live in a Haynes community, you know, you're not living next door to a registered sex offender or a drug dealer.

Right, right.

Well, I know you've got 24 seven on call emergency services.

That's huge because the complaints I always hear from people

whatever their situation is, even if they're in an HOA during a winter blizzard as they can't get a hold of anybody after hours or on weekends, and you've got additional police patrols, you've got security cameras positioned appropriately there across your, I call them your two small towns, you know, you're like mayor of 2,900 people there, Barbara, as you just alluded to, you've got the tenant screening process.

You've got the ability to track vehicles to make sure that there are not predators scoping out the neighborhoods and casing the place.

I'm impressed at night you've got that beautiful outdoor lighting and you do have emergency storm shelters and what I think is best is you've got and this goes back to your dad and mom but we always say here when you scratch the surface of Iowa nice it's

Really means neighbor helping neighbor and you've codified that into your whole business dealing Mojo for the last 50 plus years Barbara Hames Bryant.

Well, that's why we call them neighborhoods There's you can put all the security cameras in place that you want to but nothing beats neighbors watching out for neighbors No place is perfectly safe no matter

how many on-call managers you have.

So that's why we encourage people to look out for each other and look out for themselves.

We have a text message blast that we can send out to our communities.

So for example, a couple weeks ago we found out that there was somebody going through the neighborhoods and getting into unlocked cars and rifling through them.

We were able to send out a

immediate text message blast said reminder please keep your doors locked awesome your cars you know use some common sense folks

awesome that's great well Barbara you've got you know we're on America's first 50,000 watt

clear channel station that broadcast in the entire western hemisphere there is no other fifteen forty a.m.

is fifty thousand clear watts and a hundred one years ago on kxl it began and now they've added of course that that wonderful signal of one hundred point five

in Cedar Rapids, Waterloo.

We're actually carrying out to about 10 of the big 10 states right now.

What would you say in closing this segment today to this vast audience that will hear you twice?

Many of you are hearing us on our original Saturday show.

Some of you are listening to the Encore Sunday afternoon presentation.

Barbara, what's the best way these folks can get a hold of you?

The best way to reach us if you're outside the Cedar Rapids area is our website.

Hayneshomes.com

H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S dot com.

We have our full inventory of manufactured homes for sale on our website and we're very transparent about pricing.

Also, if you're in Cedar Rapids, come and visit us.

We're at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.

Wilson Avenue, West Post Road, Southwest.

We're open seven days a week.

The great Barbara Haynes Bryant our studio audience is enthralled against Scotty the studio audience loves Barb.

Oh everybody

loves Barb She's just one of those great people that the state of Iowa is produced in

I think Barbara might have some higher expiration or expirations coming up before too long.

Congress, governor, senator.

There is no race to the White House too, you know,

John.

I think expiration is a lot better than expiration,

guys.

Well, Barbara, it's always a joy to be with you.

We're fully engaged in springtime now.

Get out there and look at these wonderful Hameshomes communities.

You will be so impressed.

Godspeed, Barbara.

We will talk to you next week.

Thank you, John.

Thank you, Scotty.

Thank you, Mike.

Barbara Hames Bryant, the great one.

Get over there to Hames Homes and check them out online.

And boy, what a terrific website that is.

Check out Barbara's blog.

It's wonderful.

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And thanks to Ted Fogarty and Barbara Haymes Bryant, to whom we wish you and all a very safe and happy weekend.

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He has risen indeed, as He said.

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