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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Feb 20, 2023
Who used all the Wi-Fi?
Ah, apartment life.
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Maybe 2027 deserves an upgrade.
Coming August 2027, Four Lakes Properties introduces the brand new Union Station Apartments, furnished in-unit washer and dryer.
Internet included a great central downtown location, one to five bedroom apartments, and no double occupancy fees.
That's less adulting and more actually enjoying where you live.
Union Station Apartments, now leasing from Four Lakes Properties.
Wait, we have a washer and dryer in the apartment?
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Who used all the Wi-Fi?
Ah, apartment life.
Bad Wi-Fi, mystery laundry piles, and a roommate who says, I'll Venmo you.
Maybe 2027 deserves an upgrade.
Coming August 2027, Four Lakes Properties introduces the brand new Union Station Apartments.
Furnished, in-unit washer and dryer, internet included, a great central downtown location, one to five bedroom apartments, and no double occupancy fees.
That's less adulting and more actually enjoying where you live.
Union Station Apartments, now leasing from Four Lakes Properties.
Wait, we have a washer and dryer in the apartment?
1540
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America's first
50,000 watt blowtorch broadcasting 101 years ago from Waterloo and now our second long 100.5 FM You are listening to the Jacobson group with yours truly John Jacobson Scott Corey Mike Shane some terrific guests today and our sports cavalcade panel Scott
I feel that things are about to thaw.
I think that spring is inexorably
We're trekking right around the corner, just one more February show after this, and then I'm declaring springtime March.
You know, absolutely, John.
It's that time of year here in state of Iowa.
You know, we do have some days where it gets into the 40s, but we get the next day of a snowstorm or a blizzard.
But, you know, rest assured, though, we have wrestling going on in Des Moines.
So shout out to all of our local schools that have wrestlers down there in Des Moines.
The women's wrestling wrapped up in Coralville last weekend.
But when I always know that the spring is around the corner,
is when we start seeing the Girl Scout cookies going door to door, and I have to admit, one of the dealers got me the other day, John.
So I'm so grateful to have those thin mint cookies.
That was a hero at the
house.
You know, Scotty, it's a wonderful time of year.
We're coming into March Madness, hoop season.
Just came off a Super Bowl.
Lent is around the corner.
Maybe I can get my weight down a smidgen more if I fast appropriately during Lent, but we've got a wonderful show today.
We've got some superb interviews coming up touching on Iowa legislation as the legislature is indeed in session and some great sports stuff to recap from the Super Bowl.
all the way into what looks like our Iowa teams being very viable both men's and women's
The Hawkeye women, the UNI women that you'll be listening to, they're second in the conference right now.
It's a great time to immerse into the sports milieu.
It sure is, you know, there always talks about bowl season, but I love March Madness and the sprint to the conference finals and stuff like that.
It's gonna be a lot of great basketball and it's very, very rare to have the state of Iowa have so many great teams and we're so grateful for not only all the programs really producing this year, you know, like you mentioned, UNI has got a tremendous season going on.
Carver Hawkeye Arena with Lisa Bluter and Caitlin Clark.
They are just taking the nation by storm.
Fran McAfrey's turned it around.
Boy,
is
he ever.
And you know, we got the Hilton Magic sometimes.
Wayne's a little bit.
We'll be talking about that with Matt Garst and Chip Redman here in a little bit.
Tiger Woods is golfing.
Yeah.
With Rory McElroy.
Tigers back on the course.
Who to thank, you
know.
And spring football is just right around the corner.
About a hundred days until kickoff.
And pitchers and catchers are reported.
We're
almost in spring training.
Absolutely and don't forget the great American race that Daytona 500 kicks off on Sunday afternoon on Fox
and we've got the great Mike Shane here might grab that microphone for a minute here You know this guy is a veteran
I was listening this guy now I don't say Mike's old because he's really not
few years older than me but Mikey I was listening to you when I was an undergrad at Creighton and in the early 80s when you were the king of radio over there Omaha way play that sounder this guy the greatest sounder
Shane, how'd you put together that orchestra for that great sounder?
I don't know how I did it, because I was probably only six years old at the time.
The budget was a little bit higher before that program than ours.
Mike, I want to pay tribute to this guy.
I just witnessed this guy earlier in the week handle a massive power surge that just
brought everything down.
It would be like an EMP.
Everything went dim here in the studio, not the KXEL one, but a studio out of the Omaha area.
And Mike fixed this thing.
It's amazing.
He's like Scotty aboard the Enterprise.
Mike, are you unflappable?
Nothing seems to bother you.
I think if you walked in and the ceiling collapsed, you'd be the guy that would come out without any plaster in your hair.
Probably.
Yeah.
After those power surge, though, we all did take a quick look out the window to make sure there's no balloons over the building because he was ready to shoot that thing down if you had to.
Well, Mike Shane, we're also I just want to do a little tease here.
We're going to be heading into severe weather season fairly soon.
And Conrad Johnson from the old WMT radio in Cedar Rapids was the one that brought together
all of the national weather service and journalistic people back in sixty five i believe that was after the palm sunday tornadoes at ravaged iowa i was always been on the cutting edge of early weather interdiction mike you covered so did you uh... you covered some of those tornadoes in the oma area almost got a little bit of a record with tornadic
activity it does the biggest part i wasn't here for that was in here yet but i was in seventy five the big tornado in oma but uh...
Yeah, I was through the 80s and part of the 90s working with those, you know, doing a tornado warnings.
And, you know, the station I worked for, am I allowed to say it?
Yes.
The one that that new sound from KFAB.
The great, the great blowtorch there out of
Omaha covers a lot of ground.
And so and I worked at night when we cover even more ground.
So, you know, we did.
20 to warnings and severe thunderstorm warnings and all that stuff for practically the whole state,
you know for our listeners Mike I'd like to have you clear up one item
do what the weather people and the people that set out the warning such as yourself during these, uh, tournatic times and blizzards, you get paid by high V and fairway to, uh, hype up the storms that incoming.
You get like some free stakes when you go in there.
You know, how does that work?
No, it doesn't work that way.
Oh, I'm pretty sure those weather guys get some free stakes every now and then from high V and fairway.
Well, for our East Iowa friends, you know, there's been a supposition, Mike, that
Omo had a snow dome because Omo has missed all the snow until until this last week.
They got hit pretty well, didn't
they?
I did about about six inches or so.
Yeah, exactly.
Mike, so you can handle just about anything power surges.
Here's my thought, you know, people have their cell phones, but if you got severe weather and the electricity goes out,
and you can't recharge your phone, your phone's down.
Certain signals at night, particularly, have to redirect or shut down because of FCC rules.
And you know, sometimes those national weather radios even it's hard to discern some of they have a kind of a mechanical type of narration there.
I still and TV goes out cable goes out, dish goes out.
You know, those dishes.
There's still a big role for AM radio and FM radio with weather warnings, especially at night, right, Mike?
And especially AM because it covers more ground.
Generally speaking, at least in this part of the country for sure.
Like some places like New England where they have rocky soil.
The am stations don't go very far, but out here we're blessed without without that.
Um, but, uh, what a lot of people, even some people in the business don't know is that if you have an emergency situation and the time comes when you have to go to your night power or, or sign off, if you're a daytime station, you don't have to.
You can use your daytime facilities during the emergency.
I did not know that
can't run any commercials.
while you're doing that, but you can serve the public and, you know, have the coverage that you need to get the job done.
Well, and here's the beauty, 1540 goes everywhere.
This is one of the greatest signals literally in the United States of America.
There is no other 1540.
in north america
yeah i mean we do cover basically all the big 10 states and we even go into canada too so it just what jeff stein has us going on is just tremendous we're so grateful and in my chain you know talk to us just real briefly about what it's like now being on 1540 it's a lot better than being on that own law station isn't
it oh
yeah
absolutely i mean i at night i could not hear i didn't even know kfab existed i grew up on east coast but i could hear kxl
Absolutely KXEL
absolutely and and so it's great to be with you as always we got a fun show on this Saturday morning so Mike let's roll
Who used all the Wi-Fi?
Ah, apartment life.
Bad Wi-Fi, mystery laundry piles, and a roommate who says, I'll Venmo you.
Maybe 2027 deserves an upgrade.
Coming August 2027, Four Lakes Properties introduces the brand new Union Station Apartments.
Furnished, in-unit washer and dryer.
Internet included a great central downtown location, one to five bedroom apartments, and no double occupancy fees.
That's less adulting and more actually enjoying where you live.
Union Station Apartments, now leasing from Four Lakes Properties.
Wait, we have a washer and dryer in the apartment?
You know this is a high point in my week each week because I love our American free market enterprise system.
You know my dad built that love in me as a child.
I loved him because he was the only guy I knew in Mary in Iowa, other than perhaps Kurt Haymes who voted for Barry Goldwater in 64.
And you know, as a businessman for my career, Scott, I love Ronald Reagan.
I loved that supply site economics.
It worked.
He did what Jack Kennedy did.
It worked for Democrat Jack Kennedy.
It worked for Bill Clinton for crying out loud, working in that shotgun marriage with Newt Gingrich when they repealed
the capital gains taxes and that windfall came into the treasury.
Now I have one of my sons who teaches free market economics and is publishing all over the place, but today we get to go back to the well with the matriarch of commerce and family business in Iowa, in eastern Iowa, Barbara Hames Bryant, daughter of the late great Kurt,
and Norma Hames.
I started watching their television commercials as a young boy, Scott, about 53 years ago.
And what's happened since then?
Further excellence, a growth of a business.
And, you know, we all want to make a difference in this world, Scott.
I was reviewing last night.
I kind of have a decision tree trajectory of where my
Time and talents should be spent making a positive difference is it registers high on my little grid sheet there What can be a higher calling?
Then providing people with homes.
That's the most fundamental Pivot on Maslow's hierarchy.
It's the most basic fundamental need a man's home is his castle a woman's home is her castle and this great lady Barb Hames been doing this
She saw his little girl, her dad mom do it.
Now she's this wonderful civic leader, statewide in Iowa, heading up Iowa Federation Republican women.
And Barbara, welcome back to the show.
I see some handsome men on the website here too.
You've talked about the multi-generational aspects of this business.
What do you want to talk about today on Hames Homes?
Well as much as I'd like to talk about those two handsome men that are third generation I'd like to go back to what you started with and talk about free market economy
That's my oh, I love it when you talk dirty to me Barbara
My parents started this business in 1969 was all they had was their army pension They had no idea the amount of influence the government has on businesses
And they succeeded in spite of government regulations, not because of it.
All these people living in these homes, I don't think they realize how much we have to fight every day to keep bad laws from happening, to keep taxes from rising, to keep expenses from ballooning.
And we're trying to provide affordable housing here.
You know Barbara talk to us just a little bit about that affordable housing because if people are looking to get into one of those Great units you have there they can go online can't they and they can also if you they decide to pull the trigger and make a purchase you actually help them with the financing too, don't you?
Absolutely our website is HainesHomes.com H-A-M-E-S H-O-M-E-S dot com
It's a great place to view our entire inventory of new and pre-owned homes, the sizes, the amenities, and the prices are listed on there.
We're very transparent about that.
The price of a brand new manufactured home per square foot costs about half of what a site built home is because the homes are built indoors.
They're built assembly line style.
There's very little waste.
It's the original green housing.
And yes, we do have financing.
We have our own in-house financing company called Circle Finance.
But we also have access to local and national lenders to get the best deal for the borrowers.
You know, Barbara, as we were going into the beginning of February and everything, we've been dealing with some sub-zero temperatures and stuff like that.
Your homes are energy efficient as well, aren't they?
Yes, they are energy-star homes.
They are insulated the same as a site-built home and the furnaces and air-conditioners, the HVAC system is very energy efficient.
Now that's not to say that once in a while we do get a pipe that freezes up, but you can get that with a site-built home too.
That's right, Barbara.
Barbara Hames Bryant.
So Barbara, you guys are on the cutting edge nationally.
is leaders in the industry.
It's well known.
You sent a great team down to the Louisville Manufactured Housing Show on January 19 and 20 in Louisville, Kentucky.
That's a premier event.
That's the nation's largest indoor product show for manufactured homes.
And you know, you guys are down there.
It's fascinating.
You guys actually
collaborate with many of the manufacturers and lending partners.
How important is that for you to stay on the leading edge, both of the product and the financing?
That's hugely important.
Curtis Haynes the Forge, Curt Haynes' grandson, my nephew, and Clint Alderman, who is my niece's husband, went to the Louisville Manufactured Housing Show and spent two very, very busy days.
Looking at all the new floor plans new features new financing new energy efficient appliances Think we are staying on the cutting edge of researching what customers would like What is available in the marketplace and me and matching our customers to what's available because we stay on top of what's available
You know Barbara you may have
More microphone time than you think my son has a podcast that is fairly well listened to across the country on free market economics Also another one on faith in economics.
You might be getting a call from my Arthur generation the family as you knew my father and Mother whose mother still living but I might have to hook you up with mr. Pete doctor Pete for an interview on his shows.
I'd be happy to my
Degree at Drake was from economics and I'm very passionate about it.
Oh, we have a lot of passionate Drake bulldogs in our neck of the woods Don't we Scotty a great institution?
We sure do but you know this as long as they don't go to Creighton over there
in Omaha
That's that's where we draw the line with those folks over there though.
That's for sure.
That's tell me about
it Guys the great Barbara Hames Bryant get over there today get to Southwest Iowa drive through these beautiful neighborhoods absolutely
beautiful.
They are landscaped.
They are patriotic.
They are safe.
And my goodness, Barbara, what a legacy your family continues to build.
We're so grateful for you in Eastern Iowa.
Well, thanks, John.
I really encourage people to come and view these homes.
You just can't describe them until you see them.
It's true.
We're in the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road, Southwest and Cedar Rapids.
So Southwest Cedar Rapids, Wilson Avenue and West Post Roads is where you can visit us seven days a week.
Barbara, I was mesmerized when I came to visit you.
Not only did I tour those neighborhoods prior to meeting with you, I toured them again afterwards.
It was absolutely beautiful and stunning to me that we've got
First-class communities like this that are so safe and family-oriented.
You've got the pantry going.
You've got the dog park.
You do all things well, Barbara.
Congratulations.
You do your father and mother very proudly.
That's the greatest compliment you could give
me, John.
The greatest compliment you'll give us is when we get to interview you again next week, Barbara.
Until then, stay warm in one of those comfortable, cozy, warm, haims, homes.
Who used all the Wi-Fi?
Ah, apartment life.
Bad Wi-Fi, mystery laundry piles, and a roommate who says, I'll Venmo you.
Maybe 2027 deserves an upgrade.
Coming August 2027, Four Lakes Properties introduces the brand new Union Station apartments.
Furnished, in-unit washer and dryer.
Internet included.
A great central downtown location.
One to five bedroom apartments, and no double
occupancy fees.
That's less adulting and more actually enjoying where you live.
Union Station Apartments, now leasing from Four Lakes properties.
Wait, we have a washer and dryer in the apartment?
Well, once again, here we are into going into the March Madness.
We have some predictions that are coming out.
We're joining right now with Chip Readman, who is a alum of Iowa State and a huge Creighton fan and Matt Garst, who is a huge Iowa State fan that goes to Creighton Games.
And so they are under a lot of pressure right now, gentlemen.
And so we have some interesting developments this week as we get ready into March Madness.
Andy Katz has predicted in the Midwest bracket a number
number six Creighton taking on a number 12 oral Roberts and in the same bracket a number four Iowa State taking on a number 13 Drake and if Creighton and Drake and Iowa State happen to get past the first round they would meet up and also in the Midwest we have an Iowa team a surging Fran McAfrey Hawkeyes taking on the first round Nevada who is coached by former Iowa coach Steve Alford so there's a lot of drama in the Midwest and as we get into March
I'd have it no other way because we have a lot of great basketball going on.
We have a second place in the conference.
You and I panthers.
We have Caitlin Clark and Lisa Bluter.
Iowa surging right now, and we have a very good Iowa State women's team as well, guys.
Where do we want to go from here?
Who's going to be left crying at the end of the segment?
I'm not sure many teams are going to
be crying.
Maybe Nebraska didn't mention them.
They looked good at the beginning of the season, the women's team did, but they've kind of fallen a little bit on hard times.
So they might be pushing to get an NIT bid.
And I noticed that they're playing Iowa this weekend, which does not bode well for the Huskers.
But the Creighton women's team, I think they've got a good chance of making the tournament.
They're doing pretty well.
They're not technically not ranked, but they're sitting high in the rankings, or understandings, I should say, their third place in the conference.
So they have a pretty good chance of making it.
to the NCAAs.
Matt, I'll let you talk about that.
I'm sure you know more about the Iowa State women.
Let's you comment on that.
Yeah, Iowa State women look, they look good here.
They had some struggles here midseason, dropped a few games they probably shouldn't have, but overall they're solid top 25 team.
Just knocked off, I believe number seven, Texas earlier this week.
Ashley Jones continues to have a wonderful season.
must be TV though.
If you're a women's college basketball fan is Caitlin Clark in Iowa.
I don't know how she doesn't end up as national player of the year.
She's just fantastic.
I think Iowa State's in, obviously Iowa's in.
Creighton I think should get in.
It's just going to be interesting to see once we get past conference regular season play and then conference tournaments what happens there and how the chips fall and kind of see
you know, if you've got some big dealers there, you know, a team that was not predicted to make the tournament and they happen to win their conference tournament, then that takes a spot away from perhaps somebody else that would have gotten in otherwise.
So it'll be interesting on both the men's and women's side to see how that plays out.
I'd like to get both Mac Garst and Chip Ridman join us.
I'd like to get your guys' thoughts on what is going on right now with the Iowa State men because it looks like Coach TJ, his Hilton magic is kind of fading a little bit while we have Fran McCaffrey's Iowa team putting on a clinic Thursday night against Ohio State.
They have a tough game this weekend against Northwestern, but as Iowa State, did they surge too soon and are they in some serious trouble, guys?
I don't think
that they've surged too soon.
The problem is just maintaining a surge.
They've developed a real Jekyll and Hyde personality lately.
They can beat the ranked teams.
They beat Kansas, Kansas State.
They can eat TCUs.
They can do really well at that end.
But then the Hyde side comes in and they get really nice and they lose to all the unranked teams.
I just can't figure out what's going on.
I'm not sure if that's coaching or the players or if it's just a mentality thing, but they think they're going to win and they find out that's not always the case in this league.
You know, you're exactly right there, Chip.
I would say I think it's 14-1 at home this year, so I wouldn't say the Hilton match is gone, but that loss to Oklahoma State in Hilton was inexplicable to me.
We were real, real generous with Texas Tech here earlier this year.
Of course that game was on the road.
We built a 21 or 22 point lead and then ended up losing that game by three and overtime.
I don't know if it's player focus or you just have an off night.
The one big thing for Iowa State is fouls and foul trouble.
The West Virginia game was a classic case of that.
We're not real deep on that in the front court, but getting Jazz Coots back for Iowa State.
He had a wonderful game here the other night against TCU.
I believe had a career high 22 points.
He's a he's a big factor for us.
And if we're going to make any kind of a run in the FDA tournament, we need to have a healthy team.
So hopefully we can get through the rest of the regular season conference tournament and I have a healthy squad here with little depth.
You know as we get closer to conference tournaments and everything like that moving forward Yeah, we also saw in the big 10 Purdue actually lose two games in a row They as the number one team after they put on a very good game against other Iowa Hawkeyes earlier in the week is The big 10 is it Purdue and everybody else or is Fran McCaffrey and Northwestern and even I hate to say it Tom is what Michigan State can they pull the upset going into the tournaments is and Actually take down Purdue
I think just based on what we've seen with Iowa State talking about their situation, anything's possible.
You made a great point about the conference tournaments.
There's always surprises there that knocks someone out.
Purdue, I feel that they are the cream of the crop.
They just stumbled.
Maybe this is just going to be their wake-up call.
Maybe this is one of the deals where the coach will say, I'd rather lose now rather than over the next two weeks.
Maybe they got it out of their system.
Northwestern, I just don't have a feel for that team.
I know their second in the standings in the conference and and I was right behind them.
And if I remember right, don't they have to play each other yet?
Yes, we play this this weekend.
This weekend we actually go to Evanston and it's going to be probably a huge showdown and it will end decide if Iowa gets a double by moving forward into the conference tournament.
Well, that could be critical and that would move them at least after that game that would move them if Iowa wins at tie in the standings in the conference.
But still, you know,
Like we're talking about Purdue, you just cannot take games for granted week in and week out.
You mentioned math, the Texas Tech, and Iowa State gave them their first conference win.
Well, since that game, I noticed that I went and looked online, they lost their next two, and the next two after that, they beat two ranked teams.
Maybe Iowa State woke up Texas Tech.
But just an example, you just don't know what's going to happen.
You can't take anyone for granted in this conference to play.
You know, that's a great point.
And that's what makes March Madness so much excitement and things like that.
Well, thanks a lot for joining us today, gentlemen.
We appreciate it.
There's going to be a lot of great basketball, not only from the University of Iowa, Iowa State, UNI, Drake, as well as Creighton.
It's going to be exciting times.
So buckle up.
Scotty, we're so delighted to welcome to the show on this beautiful February Saturday morning.
Mr. Curtis Bauer.
Curtis is a wonderful patriot citizen.
He served this country very admirably and honorably in our armed forces over in the Middle East.
He is an attorney and he is fashioning some
Excellent legislation, Scott, that I hope sees the light of day.
Welcome to the program, Curtis Bauer.
Curtis, thanks for joining us this morning.
No problem.
I appreciate the time you've given me.
Well, you've got a great audience today.
Folks are listening in on 1540 a.m.
The blowtorch, America's first 50,000 watt beacon.
100 now in 101 years ago.
There is no other frequency in North America at 1540.
And Scotty, we cascade through all the big 10 states and then we add onto that our 106.7 FM signal and Cedar Rapids.
So Curtis, you got a big blow torch today.
The Iowa legislature's in session.
Scotty, I'm not sure any of us safe to come out of our homes yet while they are in session.
I don't think so.
I think, you know, it's one of those things where you keep one hand on the steering wheel and the other hand on your wallet until they get out of there.
So talk to us a little bit about your bill today, sir, and kind of how you'd like to see this fashioned and why it's an important issue to a lot of your constituents.
Well, it is Senate File 274, and it has to do with the awarding of joint physical care to parents who are already awarded joint city.
Um, it is simply adding two lines to the child custody code in 598.41.
And what it does is it basically says that, you know, unless you can really rebut why it should not be that way, um, the best interest of the child is to be with both parents half the time.
And
we're doing
that for a lot of different reasons.
Um, the biggest one is we found that fatherlessness, which
Typically about 90% of the cases are fathers who are taken away from their children that, you know, they get, they live in the same community and they only get to see their kid like every other weekend or maybe one day in the middle of the week along with that.
But we found that crime rate is higher.
We have found that.
the mental health aspects of children, they're significantly increased.
And even with even the Princeton School of Medicine has come out with a research study that says that it can be detected at the cellular level that if they lose their father or the absence of a father due to like incarceration death or divorce, that's a huge, huge hit.
to the cellular health of the child.
So we're holding that it's in the best interest of the child if possible to maintain both relationships with both parents half the time.
Well said, Curtis Bauer with us here today.
Curtis is an attorney and an outstanding American veteran, served with great honor.
Over in the Middle East in
during our warfare earlier here in this century.
Curtis, you've laid out a very good case and properly have indicated the mantra that's always reviewed in family law, best interests of the child, best interests of the child.
And you've got science backing you.
It is so critically important for fathers to be involved.
And when you see crime, truancy, drug abuse,
other issues pertinent to that, the missing link is always a strong father or foster father or male present.
So this seems like, again, one of those bills that should be pretty simple, but as we know, nothing in the Iowa legislature is very simple.
It's Lobby Row down there, and they're always a Gordian nod of lobbyist, some of whose philosophical takes on bills
are even puzzling at times.
The good news is you've actually gotten a bill number assigned.
So that's progress, right?
And it sounds like you must have some champions for this on the Senate side to get the ball rolling.
Absolutely.
Senator Garrett and Senators Zahn fully support this bill.
I mean,
those are too heavy weights.
Those are good guys to have in your camp.
Oh, absolutely.
They didn't even flinch and saying yes, but they would support it.
It was very heartwarming to hear that.
Okay, now I'm a house member and we know how it is to herd cats in that operation.
I'm going to just surmise that it's not quite as Evervescent in the house right now.
No, unfortunately, no.
I sent the same language to the house judiciary and I didn't get any favorable feedback.
on the same language from the House Judiciary.
Are we talking Chairman Steve Holt there, if I can mention a name?
He is one of the persons that I did talk to about this bill.
I have also talked with Representative Locey, Representative Jones.
They said that they would take it under advisement and that they would look at it.
But from what I understand, following caucus last week, early in the week, they weren't going to allow the bill to...
uh... advanced through committee
so jones and losie are both attorneys holds chairs the judiciary committee uh... what about leadership in the house is there a way you can go directly to leadership
well it's really difficult to say as far as leadership uh... i will say that uh...
Representative Grassley seems to be supportive of it.
I mean, given his own personal situation, I would think so.
And then there's Representative Winshittle, when I did speak with him about it, several of my colleagues who were there present watching me.
exchange between me and Representative Winshittle.
He's a marine that served in Iraq as well, and he seemed very annoyed with the topic.
He seemed very annoyed with me, and it was discouraging to see that because I find that
The best interest of children are are are really important issue and you know it when I see that he it felt like to me like he had bigger fish to fry and I'm of the opinion what could be more important than our children today.
Well said we're here with Curtis Bauer who's introduced a bill.
to bring fathers further into the picture with joint custody and joint visitation issues.
Sounds like a good approach to me, Scott.
Take it away for some follow up here, Scotty.
You mentioned a little bit about how Senator Brad's on of Polk County has been one of your main supporters.
Has he mentioned that will there be any public hearings or committee hearings to move this through?
Because for our listeners, what's called funnel week is coming up here in Iowa Legislature.
So bills basically have to make it through the each chamber's committees at some point so that they can be on the debate calendar.
Has he given you any indication about how this bill is proceeding?
So the subcommittee has been assigned with Senator Garrett, Senator Reichman and Senator Bisignano.
It has not been assigned a date yet, but I assume that it's probably going to come in the next week because it's moving really rapidly in the Senate from what we can see.
Uh, is there any other senators out there or members of the Iowa house?
If people are so inclined to support this bill that they can reach out to them either by email, phone calls, or even at their legislative town halls.
You know, it's, it's, it's an excellent question because we've had a lot of support from the other side of the aisle as well.
Um, representative Levin, um, representative Molly Buck also reached out.
She supports
it.
If our listeners, those are Democrats, correct?
And John, you probably served with some of them.
They're not exactly what you would call middle of the road Democrats.
So you have Brad's on on the far right and you have some of these folks on the far left.
They're coming together to support this bill.
Is that correct?
Well, what's interesting.
Curtis is that I yeah and Curtis I think what's interesting is there's a lot of ways to wheel power With respect to legislation.
It's not always top down Sometimes a bottom up bipartisan effort can can get you there and Scott you and I are kind of old pros at this There's always that five seconds left.
You're at your own three yard line fourth and 97
There's that long bomb called the standings bill, which hangs out there like a wraith, which...
still could be a late inning RBI.
Absolutely.
You could sneak that in through the standings bill.
We've seen that happen on a lot of issues and you know leadership in both chambers actually can move bills pretty quickly too depending on how they want to do it.
Talk to us just real briefly.
I know we kind of got off the train of thought here but you have bipartisan support in the Senate which is rare because Republicans dominate the chamber 34 out of the out of the 50 seats.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Yeah.
So talk to us just a little bit about the bipartisanship.
You're actually reaching out to this because we always hear how right now the trifecta of the Republican control is just their way or the highway.
But you have broad-based Democrat support for this.
We absolutely do.
And oddly, you know, all it took was really sitting down and meeting with both sides of the aisle about this issue because Democrats are very, very supportive of the idea of
family anything we can do to reduce crime anything that we can do to reduce issues with mental health especially within children and you know this is one of those things where if we can mitigate you know a tough time for
Children, especially in a divorce type situation or their parents are separating, they get this really good feeling about, hey, at least my parents love me and at least my parents feel very strongly and support me all the way through this process because under the typical process, which is one parent is awarded the physical care and one parent is awarded every other weekend.
In those situations, it is evident to see that
Those kids feel like they got to pick a champion or they got to pick a winner, and it puts them back in the middle, and they don't want to be in the middle, and it causes them substantially more stress.
So on the Democratic side of the aisle, that is widely recognized.
And we don't see a whole lot of opposition to it on the Democratic side of the aisle other than maybe...
an occasional attorney legislator that might say, Hey, I've seen a lot of family law cases.
We don't want to subject these people to domestic abuse.
If it's, if it's not necessary, if they are in that situation, and those are all things that we understand as well.
We don't want people in domestic violence situations either.
That's why what we're suggesting is, is the code is already written that you can't get joint legal custody if you have a history of domestic abuse, but
you can't get joint physical care if you don't have joint legal custody.
So it's already written into the law.
We're not changing the restrictions on domestic violence.
What we're doing is we're just saying, hey, this is what's in the best interest of kids.
What a lightning round quarter hour that was.
This was fascinating.
Curtis, we got to bring you back and follow the trajectory of this bill.
Please join us again in a couple of weeks.
And thanks for being a stand up guy and joining us this morning.
It's great to hear from you.
Well thank you.
Curtis Bauer ladies and gentlemen.
Well, respected attorney in Iowa here and one of our terrific veterans serving over in the Middle East.
And Scotty, he's got an idea that has some momentum.
You know, absolutely.
And it sounds like they've placed in some safeguards to that the judiciary can look at when an awarding custody.
But at the same time, you know, we always hear about, you know, the polarizing bills that are going through the legislature.
But this seems to be one of those few that are nonpartisan that it has a sport of both caucuses in the Senate.
And I'm a little surprised it doesn't have the support in the house.
I'm afraid that the influence the bar association might have something to do with that lobbyists lobbyists Yeah, absolutely, but you know if
you do support this, you know be sure to reach out to your state representative and state senator and call the governor's office as well to let your voice be heard
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Scott, this is a favorite moment of the program every week for me.
One of Iowa's true heroes.
He's a medical doctor.
He's a CPA.
He's a former state senator.
David Hart such.
He's really a renaissance man.
He's a man for all seasons.
He does so many things so very well.
In another life, he could have been one of our investment guys at the Trust.
division because he's got the metrics down on stocks, his bonds as well, too.
But on our ongoing series about the importance of medical freedom, informed consent, patient treatments, utilizing cutting edge treatments, no one better on here than David Hart such and boy, doc, we've had your patients on the show before.
extolling your virtues of how you help them during covid you seem to be one of the physicians that was able to crack the code uh by some really good innovative front end antiviral therapies but you guys that were on the cutting edge in iowa seem to be
persecuted for it and you're trying to write that wrong i'm trying to help write that wrong in my own way as well welcome back to the show and can you give us an update on how things are going i'll give you an idea that i have but as i hopefully can converse with some of the folks next week on my agenda well we're doing great and doc uh... what i'd like to start out with is
You know, I'm going to compare Nebraska and Iowa.
And during this whole COVID-19 situation, the Iowa Board of Medicine really went after, in a negative way, the doctors that had the best COVID records that were using effective front-end antiviral treatments that indeed have been vindicated in the studies subsequent to the outbreak of the pandemic and
uh... nebraska's retiring attorney general peterson i call it nothing short of a magnificent legal opinion that you know by virtue of having been issued by the attorney general at the force of an attorney general's legal opinion in nebraska basically green lighting physicians to practice as they saw fit using best standards and uh... also
Interdicting and preventing those who would try to be punitive against those physicians Sadly that wasn't the case in Iowa.
I think in Iowa.
It would be great for Attorney General Brenner Burt our new Attorney General to take a look at replicating a similar opinion that would cut to the chase and really Put the Board of Medicine on the sidelines from being able to be
such nosy old parkers screwing up the doctor-patient relationship with respect to this pandemic.
What say you, Dr. Hartsich?
Well, first of all, John, I would say that I think that most likely the doctors in Nebraska are still getting investigated by the board of medicine without the attorney general's knowledge.
And the reason why I say that is because the board of medicines across the country
belong to what is called the Federation State Medical Board.
Fascinating.
Now take us on a little journey here and for our listeners that have heard this for the first time, describe this for us, doctor.
So all of the states have gotten together to make sure that bad doctors don't practice in other states.
And so therefore, if you undergo a disciplinary action in one state, if that information gets shared through the Federation State Medical Board to all the other states,
And they basically make sure that you don't practice ever again in another state.
In other words, whatever disciplinary action is dealt out in one state, they fill it out in the other states.
And it's really problematic for some doctors who have multiple licenses.
They end up with an action in one state and it gets propagated to the other states.
Before you know it, they have 50
different cases going on across the nation because of what happened in one state.
Well, Scott, that sounds to me like the ultimate in blackballing.
Absolutely.
It's almost bringing back the McCarthy days back in the 50s and 60s.
I mean, is that's kind of where we're at right now?
Absolutely.
And that works if it's something that's important like a doctor who is, you know, somehow injuring patients.
You don't want that replicated in the other states.
But what if it's something like using hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin?
This is a case where whatever happens in one state gets propagated to the other states.
And so if the, in Iowa, in fact, it even goes, you know, some doctors in New Zealand, even as an example, they cooperate internationally as well.
And so,
Uh, you know, basically what happened to a doctor is if they don't tell the line, they don't practice anywhere.
So Dr. David Hartsich, I'm scratching my head.
Um, I thought Iowa was a medical freedom state and yet it looks like Iowa is being severely punitive against the doctors that literally had the best record of COVID saves.
that to me is a hell of a conundrum explain that if you can
well i think the biggest problem is that there is no there's no governmental control over the board the boards do what they want that they have hope a great degree of government you know society is granted them a great degree of autonomy with the assumption that they're going to be doing the right thing for the public however if you take a look at it the governor doesn't have much control over the board they only have the ability to hire and fire the directors
or decide on reappointment of who the members of the board are.
However, if you take a look at what the powers of the board are, we have a bureaucracy which controls the board, not the other way around.
It's the deep state, is that administrative branch, isn't it, of these investigators and these civil servants?
It's just like in DC, we've got them in Des Moines.
Right, exactly.
Basically, the bureaucrats tell the board what they want and the board rubber stamps the behavior of whatever the bureaucracy is doing.
And the bureaucracy is under the control of the Federation of State Medical Boards.
Federation of State Medical Boards is this non-governmental organization of which all the states are members.
And what I've found in my investigation is that by the bylaws of the
federation state medical boards the states can be sanctioned if they violate the contract which they have with the federation state medical boards.
Oh that's just ridiculous.
Now the moment I don't know what that contract
is.
That's just ridiculous.
But we
should not have a board which is under the control of federation state medical boards with any kind of contract.
Absolutely correct Dr. Hartzitsch.
You're spot on with that and you know I'm putting on my emeritus legislator hat here but
You know, no state may deprive citizens of equal protection due process.
That's the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
And if folks are interdicting with your physician's rights to utilize your free speech to treat people with informed consent, free speech, I mean the bellwether case about government interference and free speech,
is Tinker versus Des Moines Public Schools right out of Iowa.
That's the landmark Supreme Court case.
There's a thing called the Section 1983 action that pierces even to personal liability for any state actor who'd be breaching these rights.
I'm worried the citizens of Iowa are going to get soaked with lawsuits if they indemnify these folks for trampling on your rights.
Tell me how I'm wrong here.
No, I think you're right John.
In fact, I even thought if the overview of the government is so thin and becomes Essentially vacant with regard to oversight of the boards then it can hardly be said that the board is a state agency at all But they're just a private organization like kind of like the Boy Scouts created by the government But which aren't under the control of the government and that's that's not which one
you know that you cannot rule with that kind of an organization because the separation of powers and the fact that they you they have to have suitable oversight uh... you know we have a we have a government three branches of government judicial executive and legislative and when those are called mingle there has to be sufficient legislative oversight to make sure that that's what the legislature uh... uh... determined however in the case of the board of uh... of medicine
And I would add the Board of Pharmacy.
There is no oversight.
And as a result, they are their way off the grid here in terms of what their legal standing is.
So Scotty, the irony, they passed this MedMal hard cap bill to supposedly keep doctors in the state or attract doctors.
But this Board of Medicine is trying to chase doctors across the border into Omaha or Sioux Falls.
This is not medical freedom, not
my book.
No, absolutely.
And I always look at who the phrase in politics is always follow the money.
And we do know for a fact that Pfizer and some of these other organizations donated very heavily to both the Republicans and Democrats this last go around
along with big hospitals and insurance homes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, doctor, as we approach the three year anniversary of the upcoming shutdowns due to the pandemic in 2020,
Have we learned anything from this, or is this one of those things where, you know, we're just still flying by the seat of our pants?
No, I think, first of all, we've learned a whole lot about this disease.
However, that information is not being shared with the general public or among doctors themselves.
Why?
For fear of doctors, because of the fear of doctors having their licenses revoked.
You know, the truth is we invest a lot of money in our education.
And we are compensated for that.
And a lot of doctors are afraid to lose their license.
My view is that, honestly, patients deserve the best quality of health care.
They deserve the doctor has a fiduciary relationship with those patients who are obligated to.
You know about fiduciary relationships, John.
I do, my
friend.
And that means that regardless of what the licensing happens, even if it's to your detriment, you have to do the best thing for the patients.
And I think that's the thing the board doesn't understand.
I undertook this lawsuit at a time when basically they let me off the hook.
And instead I have said, no, this cannot stand.
And so I filed a lawsuit against the board of medicine, the board of pharmacy.
As I put it, it's kind of like a world
a wrestling federation with a one-two punch to the patient, a body slam, the board of pharmacy prevented patients from filling their prescriptions, while the board of medicine did a body slam to the doctors to keep them from prescribing.
I saw this in the legislature, doctor.
I saw this with my physicians, with my constituent patients.
It was
Evil what was done.
It was evil and it needs to be remedied and dr. Hartzich you are a hero For having the balls to go after these bad actors.
I salute you I
Think right now.
I think that the the case really rightfully is in Brenna Bird's office the the attorney general and the reason why is
She's got an obligation to not only defend the board in what they're doing, but she has to defend the laws of the state of Iowa and the public health in general.
And right now, those two are not in agreement.
The board has not followed the law, and they have not been concerned about the public safety as well.
And so I've made a proposition to the Attorney General's office
to have somebody appointed from her office to represent the public interest and the public safety, which I just can't do as a pro se litigant.
And basically that case needs to be heard within her office so that she can come up with an appropriate strategy of where she thinks the state should be.
Doc, we do have some people across the state that would like to get in contact with you.
They've been listening to you on various of the segments that we have had with you.
What's the best way for them to get in contact with you, Dr. David Hart, such MD from the Quad Cities of Iowa?
Yeah, John, if anybody wants to get a hold of me, they can call me and call my number at 563-293-7424.
That's 563-293-7424.
They can also text that number, which is probably the best way to get a hold of me.
If anybody out there has been injured by the vaccine, please text Injury to that number.
That's 563-293-7424.
Well,
we've had your patients on doctor with their testimonies about how you helped them so tremendously during the
pandemic.
You're my first call if I get into trouble.
David Hartsuch, ladies and gentlemen, the honorable David Hartsuch, state senator, now leading the charge for medical freedom across the state of Iowa.
Very bipartisan approach.
Doc, we're going to talk to you next week.
We want to return appearance again.
That sounds great, John.
You know, to leave on a light side.
Yeah.
I want to just tell you that I found that this hyperbaric therapy works so well for headaches.
Yeah, I've had a gal who I recently treated who's at Palmer School of Chiropractic.
I don't know if I can say that.
But anyhow, she had terrible headaches and three or four times a week.
And I gave her treatment a month ago.
I wanted to find out how she was doing.
The headache went away in about five
minutes, pulled her
back, and it turns out she's not had a headache since, and that's been over a month.
And that's with one treatment.
It's amazing.
Well, that's where you are.
You're on the cutting edge, Dr. Hart.
Such hyperbaric shows so much promise.
And it makes great sense when you think of the chemistry and the biology.
behind that dock.
If I bang my head on the ice again like I did yesterday, I'm coming to you for a session in the hyperbaric chamber.
Absolutely.
I got the seat well open for you.
Well, you know, the Quad Cities isn't too far from here and they finally got the interstate cleared off.
David Hart, such ladies and gentlemen, the great healer.
See you next week, doc.
Heck of a show, Scotty.
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