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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Tue Jan 3, 2023
Hello, this is John Jacobson and welcome to this podcast of The Jacobson Group.
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Terrific.
We're at the Advent of New Year's episode.
We've got a show today that will culminate our series on JFK.
We're gonna be getting you some updates on the COVID medical situation.
Housing is gonna be a wonderful show.
Let's roll.
Scott, it's always a pleasure for us to be able to talk to former Republican senator from the Quad Cities physician, Dr. David Hartsuch.
You know, he is one of the brightest individuals I think either of us have ever met.
He talks about, he's kind of a Mike Leach kind of character.
He can talk a little bit about pirates, but CPA and medical boards all in the same conversation.
And I mean that in the highest compliment, Senator Hartsuch, thanks for joining the program.
Hey, Merry Christmas John.
How you doing?
Merry Christmas doc.
What are we gonna talk about today?
Go ahead and riff my man Well, I think we need to talk about a loss of a file last week Against the board of medicine the board of pharmacy.
This is quite a scoop.
Let's bring up the special report klaxon here guys One moment here.
This is breaking news
Again, we're here with Dr. David Harsich, former Iowa Senator.
Doc, take it away.
We've got everybody on alert
here, a network alert.
Well, basically the Board of Medicine, the Board of Pharmacy have been conspiring against patients.
And on the one hand, what the Board of Medicine has been doing is going after any doctor who is prescribing ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine and also perhaps
not going along with the narrative that the government is wanting to propose about COVID.
And then meanwhile, the Board of Pharmacy, what they've done is they have been encouraging pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for the patients.
And so it's kind of like a tag team against the patient.
Board of Medicine takes out the doctors on which the patients rely.
And the bar board of pharmacy goes directly after the patient.
Doctor, can you explain just a little bit now?
Is this in the state court?
Is this federal court?
And who oversees both these boards?
Is this a federal board or is it a state board?
Well, this is the state board of medicine, the state board of pharmacy.
So this is in a state court and these are state agencies.
They're supposed to be responding to the state laws, the laws concerning medicine and pharmacy, but they haven't been doing that.
They're members of federal organizations that
in the case of Board of Medicines and Federation of State Medical Boards.
And they have been the ones that across the country have been trying to discipline doctors in order to silence them and prevent patients from getting alternative treatments for COVID that are very effective, by the way.
These aren't drugs that are illegal or otherwise they should not be illegal.
In fact,
the legislature passed a law which gave tort protection to doctors who utilize off-label drugs COVID.
So it's not a, if this is not anything illegal, in fact, it's quite legal.
And what the boards are doing is quite illegal because it's going against the wishes of the legislature and what the Iowa law is.
Now, doctor, do you know, is other states having the same issues with their medical boards or is Iowa unique in the situation?
No, I think this is happening all over the country.
It's especially worse in California under Governor Gavin Newsom who has been using the boards in order to silence doctors and and really inflict damage upon patients and and so we saw very early on two years ago within five days of Donald Trump calling hydroxychloroquine the game changer immediately the Board of Medicine put out
a chilling statement that basically was threatening the doctors if they prescribed the drug.
And I recognized that this was going against the scientific literature.
And I petitioned at that time the Board of Medicine in order to reevaluate their statement effect.
What I found out is they put that statement out without any consideration by the board at all.
And to me, that's just pure politicking.
And I had requested, and before I request for the scientific basis for the statement, they did not send it to me.
And when I petitioned the board, they didn't take it up for several months and finally got it just before the November election.
Figure that.
And they agreed with me.
And so they changed that.
I had requested the director of the Board of Medicine to send this out to the
All the licensees in the same manner that it was sent.
That was an email.
He refused to do that.
He said, no, I'm just going to post it on the website.
Well, nobody goes to their website.
Nobody knows.
And so the doctors in Iowa did not know they could use these drugs.
They were still under this threatening communication by the board.
And that set up a lot of dispute or contention among doctors.
over whether they can use the drug.
They could use it, they just didn't know it.
Dr, this is bombshell, this is bombshell stuff that you're saying.
So I'm gonna ask the question, in your opinion, did innocent Iowans die as a result of this?
Yes, the answer's quite definitively yes.
The scientific literature shows that early treatment with hydroxychloroquine definitely saved lives.
And most of the studies that have been done that show that hydroxychloric and no work were set up to purposely only test them in people who were in advanced disease very later on in the disease process, where the treatment is ineffective.
But early treatment, early intervention with hydroxychlorine, are ever active for that matter, does save lives.
The board could have done this, they didn't do it.
The truth of the matter is we would have been better if there was no board at all.
Scotty, we played late in December the Jackie Gleason song underneath this.
It's late in December.
I think we have the top story of the year here at the end of this calendar year,
you know, absolutely.
And, you know, as we learn more and more about the shots and things like that and the side effects and, you know, I think everyone in our audience has been affected by a loved one with either side effects from one of the shots or even a passing.
And the more and more we find out about it, I know my blood just boils more and more.
And I think I don't use this phrase lightly, but
Heads need to roll over this thing.
Don't you think, Dr. Hartsuch?
It's just one of those things that it's infuriating to know what transpired last two and a half years.
Absolutely.
In fact, I had put out an affidavit of these statements, sent it up to the legislature, to the governor.
I was very, well, I was kind of glad that they did get a new director.
However, his replacement, I think, is yet to be seen what's going to happen with that.
But more importantly, what I don't like is the fact that the old director got moved over to the Department of Education.
I guess they're going to be dealing with the issue of masking and vaccine of our children in our schools.
Is that what's going to happen?
I don't
know.
Dr. Hartsich, we're bringing you back.
This was extraordinary news today.
For the record, I've called on our oversight chairs in House and Senate to take a look at this.
And you can see some of my writings about that on social media and some of the releases and whatnot.
Dr. David Hartsich, thanks for joining us today.
Merry Christmas.
And then on the other side of the year, we're going to continue to fight this good fight, my friend.
Certainly will Merry Christmas John former senator David Hart says Oh Scott
On the advent of a beautiful new year the year of our Lord 2023 Mike Shane here at the controls and it's so great to welcome back Barbara Hames Bryant and boy after the weather we've had the inclement frigid temps is so nice to know that Barbara Hames Bryant is got two beautiful neighborhoods that had beautiful
safe, secure, warm homes all during this weather event, and the airlines might have been down and traffic may have been snarled, but everything was percolating beautifully in Southwest Cedar Rapids in your two communities, Barbara Hames.
That's right, John.
It was a cold couple of days, and I won't say that every home fared perfectly well and stayed warm, but what I will tell you is that
Our managers were there and available 24 hours a day, seven days a week to help residents when they had any kind of plumbing or water or furnace problems.
Barbara, what you say is so truthful.
And I was just out there.
I took the car literally through those two communities.
Absolutely aesthetically beautiful.
Scott Corey, the landscaping is impeccable.
There were American flags.
There were Christmas lights and bulbs everywhere.
It was the absolute best of suburban family living in America.
And it's right there in that burgeoning section of Southwest Cedar Rapids, the Hames Homes headquarters.
Beautiful brick ranch building is situated there right in the middle of those communities that are in a rural setting.
Scott, this is just
I'd live there if I could ever retire and move back closer to mom.
You know, that's a great point, John.
And the way you kind of described it to me is a mix between it's a wonderful life as well as a small town rural Iowa setting, but you're within all the big city amenities that you have there, Barbara.
And it's a lot going on right now in your community as well, because as we go into the new year, you have homes that are ready for purchase, don't you?
We absolutely do.
They're all set up.
The heat is connected.
The water is connected.
These homes are lovely.
They're up to 2,400 square feet, up to four bedrooms.
They're all on one level, so they're very livable for people of any ages.
And they're just
well decorated.
You've got to come out and see them like John did.
They're amazing.
And so if they want to go online, where's the best place they can check it out and maybe even schedule a tour and talk to you about some financing.
All of our homes for sale are on our website, www.hameshomes.com.
And we also post everything about the home, including the price.
We're very transparent about it.
We want people to know and understand what kind of a home they're buying.
You know, John, the best part about it, too, is, as we mentioned, it's a small town feel with small town amenities, but you have the big city amenities.
You're right there in the heart of Mary.
I popped over to Menards while I was in the neighborhood.
It's got interstate access, but truly against the backdrop of rural agrarian farm areas.
And Barbara, what I think is awesome is that we're in a housing vortex situation right now with the rising interest rates making some
homes here to four affordable, unaffordable.
However, based on the size that you're talking, the cost per foot, you cannot beat the pricing for these homes that, as we talked about earlier, are so sturdy, they withstood the ratio better than the other generally contracted houses.
That's right, including our brick office that you mentioned, our lovely ranch brick office.
The roof blew off of that during the derecho, but none of our homes tipped over.
None of them blew away, none of them came off their foundations.
It's a real testament to how well these homes are built and how sturdy they're installed.
Well guys, I think you should all get over there right now to Haymes Homes.
Where's your street address, Barbara, so folks can take a tour of these beautiful neighborhoods by their vehicles?
We're at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.
Wilson Avenue and West Post Road Southwest.
The Haymes Homes office is open seven days a week to talk to
fires and you can also reach us on our website at HaynesHomes.com.
Just click on contact us and the salesperson will get back to you immediately.
And I can tell you that your late great father and mother would be so proud that there were so many American flags flying on the flag poles in those homes in the neighborhoods, but also kudos to you.
You've still got that MIA POW flag flying with our liberties reprise and our rights.
We will maintain along with old glory at your corporate headquarters.
Proud of you, Barbara Hames Bryant.
Oh, let me tell you one more story, if I may.
Yes.
We had 10 volunteers from Grandview and Summitview manufactured home communities.
They spent four weekends making Christmas cards for veterans.
Oh, God bless you.
500 Christmas cards, about 100 of them were delivered to vets who live in our communities, and the rest were delivered to the veterans at the Marshalltown home.
God bless you.
These are the kind of people we're so proud of, Scott, in this state, this type of multi-generational leadership from the Hames family.
This is what being a great American is very Frank Capra-esque.
They're like the Jimmy George Bailey of this era.
It is.
It is.
And Barbara, you really are putting the community the best way you can.
And it's just amazing to see that.
It is a small town Iowa feeling that you have in your area, isn't it?
It is, we like to call our managers here the mayors.
because if you look at a map of Iowa, if you put our two communities together, we've got over 2,300 people, and that makes us bigger than 80% of the towns in Iowa.
That's exactly correct.
Well, you're a mayor that would win with the unanimous vote, Barbara Hames Bryant.
That's why Scotty and I are still conspiring to get you to run for office someday, aren't we, Scott?
There is a couple statewide offices.
We've been kind of eyeing for you, Barbara, but don't worry about it.
We'll take care of all the details for you.
You guys are incredibly flattering.
I think I'll stay here and help all my residents.
Well, help Fran McCaffrey get that basketball team back in good shape too because we're cheering like gangbusters for the Hawkeyes across the state.
Well, I'm going to be watching the Music City Bowl tomorrow with some friends at home cheering on the Hawkeyes.
Well, you know, Barbara, it'd be nice to if you ever need to get into the coaching position.
We might have an offensive coordinator spot for you to moving forward.
You never know.
Well, I will tell you, I couldn't do any worse than
that.
That's why we love you, Barbara.
We love Barbara Hems Bryant.
Thanks, Barbara.
We'll talk to you next week.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Go Hawks.
Go Hawks.
Barbara Hems Bryant, folks.
And now we go to John Jacobson as he reports from the Kennedy Library in Boston, Massachusetts.
Can you guys hear me loudly and clearly?
We sure
can.
It's a merry Christmas to everybody.
I'm so proud of you guys.
We are live on the weekend on Christmas Eve, unlike almost every other radio program that's a pre-record or a best of and yes, visiting family from Boston and my sojourn today to the John F. Kennedy
library and museum, and it's just an astounding compendium of political artifacts, memorabilia, the histories, of course, and just a tremendous treasure trope.
Things that stand out, you know, Scott, you've been working with me and Laura Bellin and Dick Douglas and Bruce Crawford and Coach Patrick J. Knapp on our recent series on the
JFK assassination and the thing that comes through today in this library although it's embedded in Boston which now in the heartland we know is a Progressive territory what comes through time and time again here was the president's military services patriotism The they have several video films that they're showing the one that
Cuban Missile Crisis is absolutely splendid.
The NASA Space Administration program, his thoughts and reflections, you can see the pension with the CIA in these exhibits here.
You see it with GFK's frustrations in 1963 with brutal assassination.
of a president, them, and South Vietnam, and the fallout from that.
You see it with issues involving the Berlin Wall, but also very interestingly too, that failed Bay of Pigs invasion.
And of course, we don't know what all the ramifications are of that, but you can tell that there were tensions even at that time.
between the way some of the intel agencies were evaluating and handling some things.
The DM assassination in Vietnam was a little more murky.
That looks like that was more of a native plot there in South Vietnam, but obviously we did not intervene the space program.
And much about his roots in Hianah's port growing up with that huge family.
I was struck by that.
Robert F. Kennedy desk.
They have such a treasure trove of data here.
So many of your original desks are here.
The dictaphones, the hotline machine that went to Russia, and to the Soviet Union here, the First Lady exhibits, Kennedy and the children.
And again, this guy was a tax cutter.
And the library itself takes on very much the visage of the former.
First Lady, she commissioned the architect.
It's out here on the harbor.
And so many neat things.
You see the memorabilia of appliances that were invoked in the early 1960s.
I saw so many things that we grew up with as children, that we grew up with as kids.
We saw one of the first books I read as a
fourth grader of political history fourth fifth grader profiles in courage you also saw the book that bobby wrote the enemy within certainly bobby was very aggressive as was john f kennedy in the senate in taking on some of the big labor union corruption uh... which possibly touched on organized crime uh... you saw the uh... emmy awards that uh... uh... first lady jackie got
for that White House tour that our friend, the Brian Douglas's father, was the cameraman.
They also have a booth there, a very quiet booth on the assassination.
No pine exhibits, just the flashes, and then essentially some of the funeral coverage, and then they had a nice legacy as you walk out.
But it's very well structured as you move through the exhibits here.
You basically go through the chronological trajectory.
Another thing that stands out is President loved to play golf.
He was quite a sailor.
He loved maritime.
He loved the sea.
Again, though, as you sat here in the theater and saw those Cuban long-range missiles that were pointing to Omaha and Nebraska in October 1962, and you realize that we did have statesmen that were able to diffuse a crisis
in a very creative way.
I kind of chuckled in the theater when Colonel Curtis LeMay, our cigar-chomping friend from Omaha Stratcom, and his lawyers wanted to go in with a full-fledged invasion into Cuba.
Unfortunately, four of those missiles in Cuba were already operational at the time.
They could have fired those if we had gone in.
And then another mystery unbeknownst to us
was
when
we did the naval blockade, the quarantine as we called it, a 500 mile quarantine, the Soviet ships like Gagarin were coming over with the equipment to complete these launching pads and missile sites.
They were accompanied by Soviet submarines.
What we did not know was that those submarines each contained a fireable nuclear missile.
So there were four fireable nuclear missiles in those submarines as they
began to almost breach the quarantine barrier.
What's fascinating is that just in the nick of time, of course, Kennedy had basically, I think, come to an agreement with Kushov that in return for promise not to attack Cuba, Kushov would remove the missiles.
However, Kushov went on to his national televised address and said, and also, Kennedy has agreed to take the missiles out of Turkey, which were threatening and menacing the Soviet Union.
At the time, that was a problem because the deal was not to take the missiles out of Cuba.
Here's what's fascinating.
When all was said and done, the Soviet ships did return back to port in exchange for a personal communique from Arboretus Kennedy, that not only would Cuba not be attacked, but that missiles would be withdrawn from Turkey at the last minute.
One thing that is very, very little known
One of the four Soviet subs
was
submerging because of US depth charges that were throwing off warnings to the Soviet subs accompanying the Soviet ships that were about to break through the 500 mile radial quarantine.
One of the Soviet ships submerged very deeply because of these concussives and the temperature rose to 120 degrees.
They lost connections with Moscow and the Soviet captain of that submarine
ordered his crew to prepare to fire a missile, fearing he had lost contact with Moscow, and that war was imminent.
There's an unsung hero named Arkhipov, not the same man who, in that near accident in the 80s, also presented a Russian sub from Launcey nuclear war.
This is an earlier unsung hero we've never known about.
Another officer on that Russian Soviet ship, Arkhipov,
convince the captain to essentially not load the missile and to return along with the other ship back to Moscow.
We had angels in our midst on those 12 days in October of 1962 and I think Jack Kennedy threaded the needle very well there.
He had Hawks and Doves and a rather large XCOM committee there and maintained the poise necessary to get us through that.
So
A thousand days in office, but some tumultuous activity, everything from the Berlin Wall ongoing situation, French, Indonesia, South, East Asia.
One thing that comes across is Jack Kennedy was an historian, and Sheila Murphy has always said this, and it came through today.
Jack Kennedy did not want to be in politics.
He wanted to be a history professor.
He left history and came in rather at the last minute as a politician running for office.
He called running for office.
a grind.
Of course, it's not so bad when Frank Sinatra's singing your campaign theme songs.
But I think what's amazing is that he had done extensive travels to Poland, to Russia, and even to Asia, while a young man, when he was a student in his father was Ambassador of Britain, he toured all of those countries in Europe.
He hated communism.
He said that Poland
and Russia were terrible, dour gloomy, depressing places.
And he truly comes through this as the ultimate Cold Warrior and yet pragmatic peace maker.
Today, I don't know how many JFK Democrats there are left, but I can see why people were drawn to him because of his historicity, his love of maritime,
His confidence in front of microphone and also he had a Sabloff there a cool He was not a knee jerk.
He was not emotive probably the perfect foil against Kushov and that Dan H Scottie and gang I can just tell you and David I know you would feel this way too I think if I ever had the opportunity to retire Dave and I say we can never retire I think if I ever had the opportunity to retire
I think I would just like to spend my days going to presidential libraries and museums.
I think I could get lost in there for years in all of these.
But, you know, this is where it started, Boston, you know, Lexington and Concord, Boston.
John Jacobson back here with Scott Corey and Mike Shane as we conclude our series on the JFK assassination who done it solved by Iowans and Scott as we Brace for a great new year.
I'm in a who done it mood The the co-max and the Jacobsons over break on Christmas Eve caught the Netflix release of
the glass onion a knives out mystery kind of the sequel with Daniel Craig that was a great who done it you know we've been projecting these weeks going back with the original sound clips from that fateful day in November 22nd we've been arcing forward with many guests including Laura Bellin who rejoins us we're gonna give Laura the final word today Laura of course the founder and publisher of bleedingheartland.com
terrific political website in Iowa and and of course kerming across the United States as well as Facebook and Twitter Laura welcome back to the program
thanks for having me back
yes Laura I just kind of reviewed here reflectively as as I just got back from the GFK library in Boston
It was really poignant and emotionally sad for me as I walked out of there after staying there probably for three hours.
I could have stayed a week there.
And Laura, we didn't know how present we were, but in the midst of doing this series, I wanted to get your thoughts and just to recap, I think we've maintained all the way through this series that David Bellin was acquitted, vindicated, proven to be right.
about the single bullet and and Oswald as the uh... blistically identified uh... killer of jfk but now we've had bubble up again with the uh... ongoing saga about why is there still been a delay by both trump and Pompeo and now by the bite administration releasing some of these gfk documents that as a result of your father's work really
Propelled this desire to get these documents out Tucker Carlson a few weeks ago Basically identified and we played that clip last week He identified a source that he says was definitely in the know that said that there was some CIA nexus to the JFK killing and in isolation that might have been one thing but Robert F. Kennedy, Jr
who I've occasionally texted with immediately went on Twitter.
So it was the most courageous journalistic report in 60 years and basically RFK Jr.
said the CIA murdered his uncle.
So I want to bring it back to you.
Your take on these recently developing news and wherever you want to riff from here, Laura, we're all ears.
Well, I was a little skeptical of Tucker Carlson's unnamed source.
I mean, this person.
There was a lot of news earlier this month about files that still haven't been released.
And I think we talked about that already.
My father fought for more files to be made public.
He knew that keeping things secret was going to fuel suspicions that not everything had been disclosed.
And I think everybody who's done serious research on the assassination believes that all of the records should be public by now.
Gerald Posner and I were on a podcast last month.
Gerald Posner is the author of Case Closed.
a really great book from the nineteen ninety yes and he has also said that the more that they can release the better but he's very skeptical that these files that haven't been released have any kind of smoking gun proof there have been some media reports citing a researcher named jeff morally who claims that they're smoking gun proof of course tucker carlton didn't mention his source but tucker carlton claim that his source was very familiar with the documents
i'm skeptical uh... gerald poster doesn't believe that anybody as have seen these documents uh... of course they should be released but we know that the c i a has not been forthcoming about its activities and many many areas we know that the c i a has not always been forthcoming with congressional investigators and that that not just related to the kennedy assassination but when my father with executive director of the rockefeller commission in the nineteen seventies
The CIA was also not forthcoming.
You were trying to suppress, well, maybe not the CIA, but powerful people were trying to suppress the chapter that your father had written for the, one of the chapters that your father had written for the report.
Yes, they were.
I mean, he was at loggerheads with a bunch of people at that time.
But the, right now, I think that
What happens when there's a huge event like this, and there's a lot of conflicting information that it's natural for people to believe, well, if somebody's hiding something, it must be because they had a role in the assassination.
There could have been a lot of things the CIA was trying to hide about its activities in the 1960s, including possibly illegal activities spying on Americans that wouldn't necessarily prove that they were involved with the assassination or with Jack Ruby.
As we discussed before,
uh... there were there were all kinds of happen that that contributed to jack ruby being in a position even to kill a lot of wild outlawed should have been transferred
or before jack ruby even got downtown every week and he was downtown was because one of the dancers at his club wanted him to wire some money in the only western union office that was open on a sunday morning with downtown
truly has dogs in the car
Right.
So I mean, this would be very difficult for the CIA to engineer all of these circumstances, including the postal inspector deciding at the last minute not to go to church,
go downtown and participate in Oswald's questioning and so on.
But there are a lot of things that we still don't know.
And I think that the more they can release, I wish that the Trump administration and now the Biden administration, I wish they had released all the documents related to these
happenings.
Speculation Lord just just want to get your take on this Carlson Tucker Carlson was really upset with Mike Pompeo and His source do you think his source could have been Trump?
Well, I think that his source, it seemed to me like his source had some kind of a score to settle with Mike Pompeo.
And the general tone of Tucker Carlson's commentary seemed to be to buttress this idea that he has about a deep state that is more powerful than anything that is engineering a lot of things.
So I just question how much of this is really related to direct knowledge.
of the Kennedy assassination and how much is related to other political lines that Tucker Carlson or his unnamed source may have wanted to push.
I'm very cautious about using unnamed sources myself.
I feel like at this point if somebody has smoking gun evidence related to the Kennedy assassination, come out and put it on the record.
And I wanted to say, since you said a final thought, one thing that I was thinking about since we last recorded for this series
The story that my dad used to tell, one of his areas within the Warren Commission, there were eight staff counsel to the Warren Commission, and his area was researching the gunmen.
And so as part of that, he went down and took depositions from everybody who had worked at the Texas School Book Depository Building with Oswald.
And again, he only worked there for a few weeks.
before November 22nd.
But my father asked lots of questions about Oswald and many of them were not directly relevant to the assassination, but just to get an idea of how he struck people.
And one question he had is what did he usually wear to work?
Well, there was one person who said that Oswald always
came to work in a t-shirt he didn't work he didn't wear shirts with a collar
and then there was another person who said that he typically wore button shirts and i never saw him in a t-shirt
so this doesn't have any bearing wow assassination but it's an example of how well-meaning people i'm sure that nobody
had any reason to lie about what Lee Harvey Oswald usually wore to work.
But it's an example of how when you have multiple eyewitnesses to something, people remember it differently.
And so now imagine the chaotic scene on November 22nd when you have literally hundreds of eyewitnesses and eyewitnesses and people see and hear all kinds of different things.
They see people running in different
and they see a flash that then later they think could have been a muzzle of a gun.
But in any case, the fact that people remember things differently is not proof that anybody is lying or covering something up.
Yeah, that's great.
That's a great point, Scotty.
You know, one thing that I think we've kind of touched on throughout the series, and then you kind of brought up just to hear a few moments ago, Laura.
was that there's that whole mindset of the American people that a young good looking president who was popular but he was also struggling in the polls at the time could be taken out by a lone gunman and then we have all these comedy of errors for lack of a better term where you know
Ruby shoots Oswald in front of all the cameras and things like that and they just keep escalating and then you know like you said people's memories could be a little foggy and and just different things like that and I think that's the hard part for society to kind of Go through and then you have you know the movie of JFK coming out Oliver Stone's movie with Kevin Costner and then you have that scene with a key as a key for Sutherland I believe and on the park bench with with
Costner you know talking about mr. X or however that played out I can't quite remember the name of that character But you have all that and then you have the CIA who has been caught red-handed operating in the continental United States at the time which was against the law And there is a lot of suspicion out there, and I don't know how any government
Uh, agencies such as the CIA can actually have any confidence in the from the populace or the elected officials moving forward.
I think you basically have to gut that system and basically start over because they are so tarnished from what they pulled over the last 60 years that I don't think anybody's going to actually believe even if we had all the documents today, they're not going to believe everything we see.
Listen to
Scott Curry sounding
like Frank Church.
This is, this
is
amazing.
Go Laura.
that could be very true i mean there the cia has done plenty of things to discredit themselves and i think that we discussed earlier in the series there were so many mistakes
in the investigation.
The fact that the doctor who performed the original autopsy burned his notes because he didn't want bloodstained pages to fall into anyone's hands.
The fact that the police, this was something that I didn't even know until I read Philip Sheenan's book called The Cruel and Shocking Act.
This came out in 2013 for the 50th anniversary.
It's a great history of the Warren Commission and he mentioned
that there was a key eyewitness to the murder of officer tippet who the dallas police didn't even interview this is a guy who picked up shell casings he used of the police radio to call in the fact that the officer had been shot and then when they came to the scene he he was never thoroughly interviewed as a witness he was able to identify as well but this is all in philip sheen's book so that when when people here
about incompetence.
It's easy to think that it wasn't incompetence.
It was somebody trying to cover something up.
Laura, we just appreciate it so much.
This has been a great series.
The Iowa Nexus to this Scotty is amazing from Tom Pettit who was just at W.O.I.
rolling down and there for NBC, the only live TV coverage when Ruby shot Oswald and of course David Bellin who
took on Nelson Rockefeller.
Man, that's my kind of guy, Laura Bellin.
I was not a Rockefeller Republican.
Ironically, my father was a Rockefeller.
I know, I know.
He was willing to take on Rockefeller himself.
I really appreciate the time and space you've devoted to this story.
It is such an interesting chapter.
Well, Laura, you should be very proud of your father.
He did exemplary work as a young man in his prime.
And you should all be proud of this legacy that he has left all the members of the Bell and family.
We look forward to you now that we're both kind of on the same side of the journalistic aisle, trying to do oversight in Iowa to continue future.
discourse on radio here Laura.
Thank you and and we sure are proud everyone in my family is very proud of our father's legacy.
You should be and you should get press credentials and maybe if you uh you and I apply at the same time they'll reject both of us.
We'll have to see or maybe we'll get lucky guys.
Laura Bell and Laura real quickly how they get a hold of you and read your good stuff.
I'm at BleedingHeartland.com.
I'm at Laura R. Bellin on Twitter and various other platforms now, Post, Mastodon.
I'm also on, there's a Facebook page for Bleeding Heartland website as well.
And of course, she's been the past expert on the Democratic caucuses.
She's got a great archive up there on YouTube on C-SPAN interviews.
Laura Bellin, B-E-L-I-N.
Thanks, Laura.
Happy New Year.
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Guys, we're back with some tremendous physicians in Iowa.
They've got some great updates for us on what's going on here in our ongoing coverage of the pandemic.
Dr. Brad Meyer, Dr. Lee Merritt, and Dr. Ted Fogarty.
And I'm proud to say that this troika are from the western part of the state.
A lot of you are listening to us on the eastern flank of the state.
And of course,
Dr. David Hartstich will be on with his report from the Quad Cities.
Let's go to Dr. Brad Meyer.
Doc, welcome back.
You're up there at the Aeronautics Clinic with Dr. Fogarty and Spirit Lake.
Talk to us today.
What's the update?
Yeah, we continue to clean up the aftermath of this COVID injection.
the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic with so much spike protein again.
So many millions of people have been absolutely had their health health and lives changed significantly for months months after they've had these vaccines or quote unquote vaccines and uh and so the the trajectory uh in in the background of that is just to remember
Where we've been and where we're going here because where we've been is I'm a family doc on the front lines I was treating patients early on May of 2020 with ivermectin hydroxychloric when having incredible success When the CDC and the big government was saying no no no you have to do it this way you have to do remdesivir You've got to you've got to use our protocols which were not working.
They were the standard
They were the standard care, and I was working on providing standard of care.
And that meant that I was innovating along with some of these other great doctors across the plane states.
And that included an acetylcysteine.
Our clinic specifically were using hyperbaric, which there's an NYU study that came out.
The phase one actually came out in May of
of 2020 to start to validate the use of hyperbaric.
Huge academic study,
yeah.
Huge.
So we continue up here to help folks from across the states get themselves back on their feet again after they've been damaged by this bio weapon.
And so we have to remember, we can't just close our eyes and say, oh, well, that's in the distant history right now.
As the data
shows and more and more of our family and friends that have gotten these injections are getting sick and some dying unexpectedly we we really we have to hold those accountable that were saying you know do nothing or you know the injections for the right way to go and and so uh... that's that's the purpose of the people are great citizens of the state the ever-mid west is to hold folks accountable that were inhibiting
doctors from like myself and you know doctor hartsich doctor merit doctor poverty to give proper informed consent to patients to say hey this is an emergency use injection that we don't have long-term safety data on so really um the fact that those doctors are the ones that are being persecuted still and come after in light of this data bending strongly in favor of the positions we took
We can't just turn a blind eye to those folks that were telling those doctors to basically shut up.
This is magnificent encapsulization of what's going on.
I am very critical of the Iowa Board of Medicine and I firmly believe heads need to roll and you set it up beautifully.
Dr. Brad Meyer.
Let's go over to Dr. Lee Merritt.
Lee's from north of where Scott and I are originally from.
They're in that Council Bluffs area.
Dr. Merritt, welcome back.
Thank you for your service to our country as a military physician previously.
Chime in on what Brad said and you had offered, talked about a few things that you wanted to visit as well.
Well, I've been looking at a couple things because Dr. Jim Thorpe is a friend of mine.
He's OBGYN.
He's very active in showing the devastation of these vaccines.
And, for example, I mean, he points out this is in the New England Journal of Medicine.
I'm being criticized by the Iowa Medical Board, by the way, for not supporting my statements with medical literature.
So let me just show you the medical literature.
There's an article by Shima Kubiteru et al.
Japanese name.
Anyway, this is from June of 2021.
And what it shows that if you were pregnant and you took this vaccine in the first trimester, or second trimester of pregnancy, the so-called vaccines, you had a 90% spontaneous abortion rate.
This is
unbelievable.
lost the fetus now terrible in mind that r u 486 the abortion after after mourning after pill has somewhere between an 80 to 90 percent efficacy in preventing and terminating the pregnancy so quite frankly this vaccine does a better job as an abortion agent scott this is just this is
terrible isn't it scott
it sure is horrible and and here's the point i'm gonna make i
looked at the Iowa numbers.
Okay, we have about 3.3 million people
in the
state.
I looked at the Iowa numbers last the winter of 21-22 of the, this was just all cause mortality, but it's after we started this vaccine program.
Okay.
And we are, we have an average compared to the previous, like several years going back where you can, you know, five years going back, we have
300 excess deaths a month, and about 200 to 250 excess stillbirth, miscarriages, lost in pregnancy.
So no, it's births.
The births are down by 200 to 250 a month, and the deaths are up by about 300 a month.
Now the question is, I'm not an actuary, but you run those numbers long term.
That is a huge decline in our population coming up, and that's
That's not everything, because here's the problem.
And this is why I'm speaking out right now.
It's not just about the military mandate.
It's still about a mandate for our children going into school.
There's concern by these experts.
I'm not an OBGYN doctor, but there has been a concern for a very long time by these experts, based on the data, based on the scientific evidence, that this is not just rendering adult women sterile
but that it is damaging the ovaries of the female fetus.
In other words, you're pregnant, you have a child in the womb that's a female.
That ovary is even if you manage to deliver the baby, which is a 10% chance, roughly.
This is now, you have a possibility of damaging the ovary in that fetus, so the next generation doesn't reproduce.
We're
in a demographic nightmare.
The governor around the country,
But credit for stopping the childhood mandates for the COVID vaccines for their school children.
Well, that's all fine and good.
But if you go to the box now that says on the flu vaccine, that it's a combo.
It's a combo of the flu vaccine and the COVID vaccine.
And that's still being mandated for our children.
The flu vaccine should never have been mandated, should never have been on the child panel.
And it doesn't matter what, you know, I heard that the, you know, Iowans for informed choice, Iowa,
Well, they're thought to be kind of extremists because they're against all vaccines, but here's the problem.
As these guys have said themselves at Pfizer and Moderna, this technology that they've developed for this COVID shot can be easily transmitted into any other vaccine.
So what's happening is they're cleverly, people are not paying attention, and they're still vaccinating their children with this stuff.
Dr. Lee Merritt, ladies and gentlemen, that's some sobering news.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, working our way back up to Spirit Lake and the aeronautics clinic up there.
We give you the last word here in our quarter hour segment.
Dr. Fogarty, your partner, Dr. Brad Meyer and Dr. Merritt have let off strongly.
We're gonna give you the final word.
How would you like to put this in a perspective today?
Thanks, John.
Hey, I'm actually shouting out to you from Western Nebraska and Lake McConaughey area, where I'm home for Christmas and the new year.
Okay, we gotta play the ringtone.
We gotta play your old radio ringtone for you here.
There we
go.
Do you feel at home now?
You're at McConaughey and you hear these dulcet chimes.
What do you think, Fogarty?
Absolutely.
Well, as the former chair of the University of North Dakota School of Medicine, Radiology Department, and one of the top pediatric imagers in Western North Dakota,
longstanding history of being the go-to guy in the state capital of North Dakota for pediatric radiology.
I am chagrined and it's horrific.
What I'm seeing at night across multiple states and also within the medical and scientific literature coming down from pediatric MRI studies and research on how damaging
this
biotech bioweapon really is.
And it
truly
is.
a bio weapon.
The the the MIRNA vaccines are a bio weapon in and of themselves.
And then when you look at it from the J&J perspective and the and the live virus, the adenovirus version of the vaccine with an insertion of a spike protein, that is actually a gain of function that a corporation in America did to create a second bio weapon in a secret viral species.
And now when we look and you know, I'm reading films down in Florida,
One of my first Florida cases back in 2021 was an ER doc who strongly recognized that this kid had come into his ER, a 12-year-old kid, and had just had...
a Pfizer vaccine, put it on the request, got a chest film, and this kid had CHF signs on a chest film, a 12-year-old kid and an ER doc in Florida.
And I'm reading this film, and I'm calling this guy, and I put it in this kid's chart and on that film.
This needs to be reported to the various database, and that he should not have another vaccine.
I'm continually across state lines speaking the truth.
and wielding the free speech rights that all of our physicians need to have to not be muzzled by these boards in saving lives through communication.
And God bless Governor DeSantis, who is going after these, going after these vaccine companies with the grand jury trial system in Florida, the Supreme Court just signed off on it.
And there's a whole bunch of other Republican governors that better get on board with that whole process.
Yeah, we need to get grand juries going and certainly we need to revamp these medical boards.
until they get it right.
Guys, this has been an awesome conversation.
We're gonna bring y'all back on in 2023.
Ladies and gentlemen, doctors, Brad Meyer, Lee Merritt, and Ted Fogarty, heroic doctors of courageous conscience that have the best curative records in the state through the pandemic.
Thank you all for joining us.
Happy New Year, everybody.
Thank you.
Amen, John.
Well, Scotty, we're in the middle of Hawkeye Hoops and a great bowl game, but boy, that was a tough loss.
to the big red because you know we hang with these Nebraskans and they're insufferable when they win Scott.
Well they're just insufferable no matter what the season is John but yeah it's been a tough stretch here for Fran McCaffrey's ball club the shooting has just been abysmal.
When you're
hot you're hot when you're not you're
not.
Yeah I just don't know what it is it's almost like they don't have any confidence in their shots and who's going to be that guy on the on the team right now and so it's kind of surprising because as we've gone through so many years with Fran McCaffrey
he's supposed to be known for his toughness and this team just isn't very tough right now.
So it's very disappointing, but there's a lot moving forward.
The Big 10 schedule is going to be very tough.
We have, you know, Purdue is going to be a top one or top two whenever we meet them, as well as, you know, Michigan is struggling right now, but the league is built pretty solid this year.
So it's going to be a lot of pressure on Fran McAfrey's team because he's going to have to start getting them on a roll if we want to have a good seed going in the Big 10 tournament.
Yeah.
And a lot of teams are riding roller coasters right now, you know,
and who had been in the top 10, lost five in a row.
It seems like they're getting back on the winning track.
But Scotty, I think that the portal and NIL has changed everything.
I think now you can literally build teams overnight.
I think it helps a Fred Hoiberg type at Nebraska.
programs are in the doldrums, they can roll the dice and and get lucky.
You know, that's a great point too.
And, you know, Pat Hardy had a great article here right before Christmas talking about the tumultuous situation between the swarm, which is the NIL portion of Hawkeye Athletics as well as the athletic department headed up by Gary Barda.
And there was a lot of tension between those two organizations where Barda didn't want to share a lot of information.
And we saw a lot of pushback on social media and in the blog blogosphere about that.
and it was very good to see Kirk Farron's come out and be supportive of the NIL because he needs it as much as anybody else on that football team and you know Matt or excuse me Lisa Bluter as well as Fran McCaffrey needed as well as for their program so there's a lot moving forward but not all is well right now at the athletic department and we need to get to the bottom of that.
Yeah Scott,
excellent point on NIL.
Kevin Warren, maybe moving on to the Bears.
I got to tell you, I won't be sad to see him leave as commissioner of the Big Ten.
I've been critical of him for how he handled the pandemic.
And I hope he goes the Bears, the McCaskey family.
They fumbled more than just footballs.
And I think we need to get back to the Jim Delaney mode of running the Big Ten.
This is serious decisions are going to need to be made.
And we need someone in there who is
the right person for the job.
You know that's a great point John and you know a lot of credit was given to Kevin Warren for bringing in UCLA and USC earlier this year as well as the multi-billion dollar media deal for the Big Ten but there was also a lot of conversations going on in the background that I had heard that
kind of the person that was leading the forefront on all that was Ohio State's athletic director, Gene Smith.
And Gene Smith was kind of always been known as the de facto commissioner of the Big Ten the last few years.
And so that's the name I keep an eye on.
And as we move forward into the new college football playoff negotiations with ESPN, Fox Sports, the SEC and the other conferences, we need somebody that's going to be tough.
And, you know, I would not be opposed to bringing back Delaney for a short stint.
to get those negotiations under control and that way the Big Ten's position is solidified and we will deal with expansion moving forward.
Maybe
even an Alvarez keep him in the picture because he knows how to cut deals.
And I would actually I'd like to see a triumphant of Gene Smith, Jim Delaney and Barry Alvarez.
I'm all in.
I think that would be tremendous for the conference as well as for Hawkeye Nation.
That'd be a
Troika, that'd be quite a Troika there.
Scott, one thing that I've been amazed at is we've seen some defections.
in the portal and as we conclude the program today I just want to say
But there's been a very endearing pushback from Iowa veterans.
They're not punting on the bowl to go to the pros, and some are coming back for another season.
There's still a lot of loyalty to Farron's and the program.
There sure has been, and it's been a tough year for Hawkeye Nation, and I'm going to be glad when the season this year concludes.
But I will give Kurt Farns a lot of credit.
He is adapting.
I joked the other day that we were on Kurt 6.0, and good for him for trying to adapt to these new rules.
You want to see more flexibility in that athletic department, but there's a lot to be hopeful for as we go into the 2023 season.
Well,
we're going to have a great new year, God willing, with you all.
Thanks as always for listening.
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