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The Jacobsen Group with Jon Jacobsen · Mon Nov 21, 2022
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Scotty, a lot happened this week in the news.
We finally got some of those house races counted, and I hear Elmira Gulch getting on her bicycle.
She's heading she's heading from DC back
to San Fran Scotty.
It's a glorious site.
She even gets to take Toto with her.
That basket is empty.
The other thing in there is a gavel and Paul is scared.
That may be a flask of some vodka too, but you know, it is quite a deal.
It's interesting, John, where you talk about Nancy Pelosi stepping down from leadership and the Democrat caucus as well as Steny Hoyer.
And so they are
making- And Jim Clyburn.
And Clyburn as well.
It's a trifecta.
And those people have been clinging to power for almost 30 years.
leading that Democrat Party.
So it's going to be interesting to see how they move forward.
I am going to be interested to see how Kevin McCarthy, the Republican leader, can handle it.
I still don't think he's up to the task.
I don't even know.
I'll just
say it.
And then we have the turtle himself, Mitch McConnell in the Senate for the Republicans.
That guy is one of those barnacles that's going to outlast us all, I'm afraid.
You know, I'm not pumped up at all about GOP leadership.
Democratic leadership is going to continue their leftward
arc, no question about it, but when all of a sudden done, despite the media and California drag out to deflate the euphoria, the fact is now Republicans have gained double digits.
in the midterm, in the house, they'll be at 222, which means they've got four votes to spare.
There won't be any Liz Cheney as speaker, even if one Republican defected, they've got the comfort zone now to govern, and that will put a proper.
check and balance as envisioned by our founders on the Biden administration and some long overdue investigations of potential criminal conduct.
You know, absolutely.
I think there's going to be a lot of looking into, especially where some of this funding has been going to Ukraine.
There seems to be a lot of questions regarding the multi-billion dollar packages.
There needs to be some oversight on that as well as potentially some laptops that Hunter Biden has had and some of the things that the DOJ has been not necessarily
been adhering to the law about.
Let's go out right now.
We've got a live embed at the Pelosi going away party.
Let's let's capture that right now.
Scotty,
there's some
euphoria going on there.
I see it.
You know, I think in a lot of Republican circles across the whole country, the sun is a little bit brighter.
The air is a little bit crisper out there.
And so it's one of those things that you will remember her leadership in the Congress as well as how she treated a lot of people.
And there's not going to be a lot of sadness to see her
leave.
There was talk of maybe her going to be ambassador to the Vatican, but the Vatican
as a policy, strict policy against fires at the Vatican.
And they were afraid she would spontaneously combust.
So she's out of the running for a Vatican
appointment, Scotty.
You know, that just, that's just so sad, especially as a Lutheran.
I was hoping to see her go over there.
But, you know, one of the interesting things too is now, you know, the Republicans are going to have to find their new foil moving forward as well.
They are.
Well, we're going to foil a lot of evil plots today with a great show and super interviews.
Stand by.
Let's roll.
Now we've got this great opportunity to do our ongoing feature on the Constitution.
Dave Overholzer is such a big proponent of getting these constitutional issues out.
We'll bring up our little panel discussion group here because we've got two special guests with us again on this show here this morning.
Dr. David Hartsuch, former Iowa State Senator.
Dr. Ted Fogarty, MD.
And guys, we love to talk about religious freedom and freedom of speech.
And we've got a concerning development in Iowa where we're seemingly following the California model that Gavin Newsom has unleashed.
Let's welcome back to program Ted Fogarty and David Hartsich.
I think our studio audience is, studio audience is applauding there if we go to Studio C. Yeah, they're familiar with you guys.
And you're having a conference in Des Moines today.
We'll have about 700 people, but you two have 25,000 listening in right now as we speak.
So this is the biggest medical freedom town hall going on today on air.
Kick it off, Dr. Hart, such this California thing is concerning.
Talk about it.
Hey, John, how you doing?
Great to be here today.
Hey, Ted, how you doing?
So the bill we're talking about today is bill number 2098, which was Gary Newsom, the governor.
who signed in the law in order to penalize doctors who say, mislead the information to the public.
In other words, their view is that doctors should only say what is considered to be the gospel of science, which in today's day and age is what the government says it is.
And in general, I think we're talking about whether the vaccine is safe.
effective, and whether they're alternative treatments.
The position of the government has been that there's no, that the vaccine
is
safe for everybody.
It is perfectly effective, in fact, the necessity in order to stop the pandemic.
And they also think that there are no alternative treatments, such as Cybermaker, Hydroxychloroquine.
And many doctors in the country disagree with this.
publicly spoken out and have been disciplined or is there a bit of under investigation by their boards but there's a constitutional question there about whether doctors have a right to free speech and gary newton thinks that they do not that they're that they are in a profession where people depend on their uh... their uh... expertise in making sure that they're saying correct information so therefore the government is going to enforce what is correct information
This is a great setup, Dr. Hartsich and Dr. Fogarty, someone myself who benefited miraculously from Ivor Mekton, who as a state legislator is aware of a plethora of cases where young males are suffering myocarditis.
Women are suffering miscarriages at an 80% or higher rate.
And to shut down that discussion,
is appalling to me.
And we see this now penetrating even into doctors that are working for Christian faith-based organizations.
I see religious freedom issues here.
I see speech issues here.
And what's really menacing about it is those of you that have an alternate view, the government agrees with you.
You've got great treatments and they're even putting money behind you.
Why are you guys getting persecuted?
Because we're dealing with literally a
nation-state racket and And you know
he's nodding her head here and as are several in the audience keep going doc
Yeah, you know having grown up in a family that's full of First Amendment folks in journalism and law.
Yeah, you're an Omaha boy.
Didn't your great-grandfather charter the city Omaha?
Actually, just just my grandfather grandfather Edward Fogart is a third and it was Edward Fogart a senior who?
Who did put the charter
together?
That's right.
And so when When we look at the free speech rights issues and we put this in a political football context You know
we
can just look to Florida just look to the state of Florida Look to that great leadership in the medical freedom that's coming from this
Florida Surgeon General, and also from our Hawkeye Husker crowd here, of which you have assembled, John.
You have assembled some of the most powerful voices in medicine in the Midwest across the Missouri River.
And the State Attorney General from Nebraska already pioneered a precedent in law.
Ted,
this is
amazing that you're bringing this up.
I was meeting yesterday with one of those courageous, heroic physicians in Omaha.
who's becoming a magnet for these other physicians that want out of the Fauci hierarchy.
And they're safe in Omaha and in Nebraska precisely because of that brilliant opinion by Peterson.
Whereas in Iowa, hey, Doc Harcich, I'm going to have to send a letter to my colleagues.
I think you know what I'm talking about to ring the bell about things that are going on in the Iowa Board of Medicine that are shocking, appalling and abominable.
I think the board of medicine has followed the California model.
I don't think we deserve this here in Iowa.
I don't think we want it here in Iowa.
And that California model is where the state has the right to silence the doctors so that patients cannot hear what their legitimate opinion is.
Yeah, go ahead, Doc.
Yeah, I've had patients to set my office and they asked me, Doc, what do you think of getting the vaccine?
And I tell them that actually I'm under, you know, the board of medicine has silent doctors to such extent.
So if a doctor speaks out, they could be called all up for discipline.
And so the silencing effect was such
that I
had to tell them, I said, honestly, because of this, I'm under duress and I can't tell you one way or another whether you should or should not be vaccinated.
So therefore, my opinion is about as fair as a two-headed coin.
And you talk
about informed
consent.
How can you give informed informed consent if you don't have the facts?
Dr. Fogarty, going back to you, I want to put it in a proper context.
Your methodology has earned Kara's money because it's been so effective.
Not only that, but we've done interstate commerce and setting precedents and the strategic.
communications in medicine point of view here that i'm broadcasting with you john across state lines frequently is
that
the iowa board of medicine is following the wrong and they're digging their own grave and they are also helping the federation state medical boards
dig their own grave as well.
We're going
to have our
representative Henry Stone, Majority Whip on after we conclude this segment, but I think the Republican red wave in Iowa that was so strong is in danger of being eroded because of this cancer on the Iowa State Medical Board.
You know it said that every political defeat sows the seeds of victory.
My concern
is that this great political victory in Iowa, we already have sown the seeds of defeat by a runaway rogue board of medicine whose new executive director is Fauci on steroids and Gavin Newsom with not quite as good a hair.
I can't believe this.
Amen,
John.
You know, David, if you want to speak more to that issue, but the point is that we're, we are now as the Jacobson group and as these physicians.
We are the strategic communications group that is going to go on the offensive and we're going to take down these Goliaths and Naomi
Corey, our mom who was employee persecuted with with them trying to mandate her.
Fortunately, she found an exit route.
Naomi, I want I know you wanted in here for a second.
I guess I just want to make a comment.
Elon Musk just fired the.
quote, human rights, unquote, team at Twitter.
That's the same team that censored and throttled and suspended accounts advocated for bodily autonomy, medical freedom, parental rights during the pandemic.
Let's get that.
That's a brilliant comment.
I say good riddance.
Yes, I do
too.
They can't shut us up on AM and FM radio and streaming.
And Nick Burris, our commander at the council, tells me as long as he's got gasoline for the generator, we can even survive an EMP and broadcast.
So doctors, we ain't going anywhere.
We're gonna have you back on the show in a couple of weeks.
God bless.
Hey, John.
Yes, doc.
Can I say one more thing?
Please.
There's a very important case called Nifla versus Basara, which is in 2018.
Iowa, yes.
No, that was in California.
Oh, that
was the Cali one.
That's right.
I'm thinking of
the other Ireland one.
Yeah, go
ahead.
Yeah, the Basara out of
Cali.
Yeah.
What the Supreme Court said in that case is really just so applicable.
So the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the marketplace.
And the people lose when the government is the one deciding which ideas should prevail.
That is the wisdom of our Supreme Court.
That's not like David Overholster when he talks about free markets here.
Fogarty will let you go too, but you're an Omaha boy.
Any greetings for the Omaha folks back home?
You're rooting for the big red today a little bit, aren't you?
Of course I always am, but I just want to thank Sheila for very clearly and concisely articulating as a U.S.
citizen that we are now in a medical fascist state.
And indeed, and as Naomi is tracking it, we're fighting back.
Elon Musk has gotten rid of those control freaks there.
Maybe we'll have some opening up there.
Thank you guys very much.
We'll have you back in a couple of weeks as we continue to monitor this.
But congrats on the great successes.
Both of these physicians, guys,
have had patients basically throwing parties for them of gratitude for saving lives of entire families when judicial medicine was saying remnisvir, death is near, and ventilator.
That's not the way that these guys cure.
These guys have great track records.
Studio audience, what do you think of our doctors today again?
Fogarty and heart such.
Great job guys.
We'll have you back soon.
Bye
bye.
Bye bye.
And I'm going to drive up to those clinics in Ocoboji and in Scott County, Denver in my Honda.
You know, that's a great idea, you know, because Chip, you talk about your passport that you guys have purchased not too long ago, even though it's considered an SUV, it's getting good gas mileage, isn't it?
Actually, it's an improvement for the pilot that I had in 2014 I had.
I think I'm getting about two or three miles a gallon better on the highway and in town.
You know, the winter blend that you get for fuel right now, usually I would, I'd be pressed to try and get to 20 miles a gallon.
I'm probably getting close to 22 in town right now.
You know, Adey, we talk about fuel mileage and things like that, but it's not only the fuel mileage that you're saving some money on, it's the value.
When you go to turn that thing back in and make another deal, they don't lose the value on their trade ins, do they?
You know what, they do not.
That's what, you know, we talk about safety, reliability.
But another critical factor when it comes to buying a decision is that value, whether it's a traded value or if you're like I am in buy and hold, it's just still you know that you got a car.
And why is it still valuable?
Because it's still reliable, dependable, you know, as a 10-year-old vehicle.
You know, that's a great point.
And Chip, we talked about just a little bit ago.
Matt O'Daniel has 91 vehicles in his inventory right now.
So he has the cars, the SUVs, and even the Ridgeline.
And so he has all kinds of vehicles that you can take a look at if you're going to buy a new, a used, or even go the least route.
He has that type of inventory.
Well, we were talking earlier about the Passport and the Pilot.
He's got good inventory there.
you are right it shows 17 ridgelines you like a pickup truck and ridgeline is a beautiful pickup truck you can definitely have a good assortment to pick from there and David always talks about that sexy Civic they've got 10 of those in inventory if you look online that you can scout out a little bit the CRV which my wife has great vehicle multi-purpose not as big as the traditional
SUV, but not as small as the HRV.
It's kind of a nice in-between size, easy to get around.
They have 17 of those in stock.
I mean, it's SUV heaven when you go to Maddo, Daniel Honda.
And you know, David, the nice thing about those CRVs and also the HRVs, they get tremendous fuel mileage, don't they?
You know what?
They do get tremendous fuel mileage.
My daughter has that 2019 HRV.
She's over in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
Yeah.
She gets great mileage out of that car when it comes back.
And, you know, with the all-wheel drive that these vehicles have, Chip, we know what the weather is going to be like here in just a few more weeks.
You know, we will start seeing the snow.
They had a blizzard up there in the Dakotas this earlier this week.
And so, you know, we know how good Omaha plows its streets.
We know, even out in the country, you know, on Highway 92 and Highway 59, it gets a little dicey sometimes there in January and February.
And having that all-wheel drive really makes a difference.
Oh, not even talking on age roads.
How about the side streets?
driveway can get treacherous.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And so, David, what's the best way we can check online?
Go to odanyohonda.com, odanyohonda.com, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Again, my daughter bought her car,
you know,
shopping from her living room in Iowa City, came over, signed the deal, 10 minutes later, she was getting checked out in a new, used Honda 7, a Honda Accord.
You know, that's the great thing about it today is that once you make that deal even online, you don't have to worry about Matt finding any up sales or anything like that.
The deal is the deal.
That's absolutely right.
And when I go and see my buddies, Henry Stone and Nick Kritellian Des Moines.
I'm always.
We are going into extra innings by popular demand.
Our 90 minute program today leading right into Hawkeye football.
Will the Hawkeyes grab that bowl?
Eligibility today.
You'll be listening to Ed Poelack and Gary Dolphin right after this show, but we're another 30 minutes extended.
Let's reboot Nick Burris.
Oh, this is an epic show.
We got people coming in the studio.
John Stewart's got a guest.
Tim Grover has just been talking about the excellent interview that we had with Drs.
Hartsuch and Drs.
Ted Fogarty.
John Jacobson here with the Maddo Daniel Sponsored, now you've heard all program.
How many plaques do we have up in this room?
We are, thanks Chip Readman, we're close to getting our 37 Iowa broadcast news association plaques up.
We think we've got about 30,000 listening in this morning.
And I'm here with Nick Burris, the Montgomery Scott of the Controls.
I need more power, Nick, more power.
But we got a lot of power, because we're on 1420 AM.
106.5 FM and streaming live on MyBoomerRadio.com.
I'm here with my co-chairs, literally, in the chairs next to me here in Studio A. Scott Corey, Chip Reedman, David Overholzer, Naomi Corey.
in Studio B, Jon Stewart and your guest, Jon.
My guest sitting here next to me is Jared Glass and he just recently got a job, he has told me, but he is studying for his CPA exam.
Oh, you gotta talk today.
We're gonna have a conversation.
Jared, welcome to the show, Jared.
Thank you so much for being here.
Now, so that means, so I've counted one, two, three, four, five.
6, 7, 8 in studio.
Kip and Sheila Murphy by Skype 9, 10.
Coach Knapp and Matt Garst 11, 12.
Dr. Hartsuch and Fogarty 13, 14.
We're going to get to the sweet 16 quickly here.
We have got is time to queue up.
Can I interrupt for a second
and
ask a public question?
Sure.
This is mostly for Mr. Overholster.
I've been hearing this a lot on the radio lately about Roth conversions.
How long can you still do that to get it on this tax year?
Great question.
You've got until December 31st to do a Roth conversion.
John such a land bearer and he's got that abacus rolling constantly to just do his debits and credits Scottie
Oh, the best part about it.
He has to figure out his tax schemes in all three different states It's gonna be interesting to see how John manipulates that I had a rumor out there that he actually won the Powerball, but Good God if he would have had two billion dollars, he'd own the state of Missouri.
Oh my goodness.
No kidding guys.
Let's get right in to decision 22 the postmortem
We've got two superstars on with us here today.
Guys, welcome to the show and our studio audience.
In Studio C, we've got Henry Stone, representative Henry Stone.
Iowa's new Iowa House of Representatives Majority Whip.
How are you today, Henry?
Doing
well, John.
Doing well.
Thanks for inviting me on.
And then our other Des Moines guest today, the one, the only, the inimitable, the first American in 150 years to be called to the ends of court in Britain, to be called as a bespoken member of the ends of court, the head of the Iowa State Bar Ethics Commission, former head of the Iowa Trial Lawyers.
Captain in the US Coast Guard multiple award winners legal counsel the flotilla.
He sent elementary school balloons in the outer space He has worked on the Jewish Christian dialogue in Des Moines with great success Welcome back the show Nick Crotelli studio audience see they're on their feet again, too Guys we're gonna How's that separate products
for you there Nick?
Yeah, good afternoon.
You guys sound like you're having way too much fun and way too much caffeine
Well the key is no show prep Nick.
You know you're a due diligent lawyer and we just you know like we said earlier We heard show prep would never kill anybody, but none of us wanted to take the chance Right and I'm gonna start with Henry Henry.
I thought about my dad a lot the last two days
Thursday was the Marine Corps' birthday.
He was a Marine up in Korea.
And Henry, you have family ties to Korea, don't you?
I
do.
My mother's Korean.
I was actually born in Korea.
So yeah, I have a lot of family over there.
And then, of course, yesterday Veterans Day.
And we've got quite a sports program here.
We've won a lot of brass for our sports awards.
But Henry, you're a former football coach.
I am.
I am.
I coached high school ball for quite a few years while I was in the service and then I transitioned to college football and so I coached for six years at Waldorf University, Waldorf College at the time, up here in Forest City, Iowa.
I did that for about six years.
I was the
ended up being the office of coordinator quarterback coach for them
you know that's kind of sounds like uh... we might have a job opportunity here for you at a certain university just south of you uh... you know i will could be looking for a new offensive coordinator quarterback coach you might fit the builders representative
yeah no idea uh... i think uh... coach parents uh... you know uh...
knows what he's doing.
I
appreciate that.
You have to qualify that.
That's Kurt Ferris knows what he's doing because Brian Ferris does not know what he's doing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Point well taken.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You know, I go ahead.
Well, I was just going to say, you know, I love college football.
There's nothing like it.
You know, I actually in 2010, I was a guest coach for the Detroit Lions during OTAs for a small period.
But college football, I mean, there is absolutely nothing like it.
But as much as I love college football, I love representing my district and representing Iowa down in Des Moines.
Nice segue, Henry.
Now, Henry, you were there when we lauded and honored the great barrister Critelli for his work with that joint resolution.
It's hard to get a unanimous vote on that floor, but we got one for Critelli.
That was impressive, wasn't it?
It absolutely was.
Well deserved.
I love being a part of that and being there and seeing everybody's support.
And it was just a tremendous opportunity.
I'm honored and blessed to be a part of that.
Nick Critelli, welcome back.
So Henry's a good Republican.
They were serving the legislature.
And I want to give a shout out to Henry for this.
And Nick was involved in some
discussions on on on nix helped with a lot of our pro-life legislation but henry um henry ran some great medical freedom stuff for us last year henry you remember you and me in that committee uh state government committee uh fighting off christina bohanan
yeah i remember that
well anyway um
Henry's been a champ on medical freedom and I won't get deep in the woods.
We just had doctors heart such former Republican State Center on and Dr. Ted Fogarty.
And Henry, we've got a real problem with the new director of the Iowa Board of Medicine.
He's a
Big Planned Parenthood pro abort who lobbied against every medical freedom bill that's come up in Iowa and somehow inexplicably now we're to the left of Gavin Newsom in California.
You guys in the house are going to take a look at some of this stuff to maintain your good record of promoting medical freedom in Iowa, aren't you?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I'll never stop fighting for that segment.
I truly believe in it.
You know and so otherwise I wouldn't have proposed the bill that I proposed
the bill that I ran.
The fight is still on.
They might say COVID is over but there's a lot of lingering effects of that, things moving forward that we need to protect against and so absolutely I will never back down.
Henry, one of the doctors that helped you and me, I won't mention names,
is one of the doctors they're going after with this new regime there in Des Moines.
So as you know, my term's 50 more days, but then after that, I've still got a valid law license in two states.
So I don't know what's scarier me in the house or out of the house, Henry.
What are you putting your money on?
Well, I guess that depends on what side of the ball you're on.
I mean, I'm an offensive coordinator, so I'm about taking it to him.
So I'll always
want to move the ball down the field and make the other side play defense.
that's kind of my, that's how I approach things.
You know, why, you know, a lot of people say, well, it's not happening here in Iowa or there's only a couple of cases.
Well, I mean, do we need to wait until so many people are
hurt?
Exactly.
Let's fix it before that problem exists.
Well, Henry, you led the party, helped lead it to a great red victory in Iowa.
But that did not happen nationwide.
And there's a lot of soul searching going on right now.
Dave Overholster, Scott Corey, Chip Reidman, that red wave barely materialized.
It was more like a red puddle.
We had a little bit of a red stream in Iowa and Nebraska.
But Nick Rateli, what went wrong?
What's going on in the country?
You are.
Almost an octogenarian you are very familiar with across the pond with what's going on in Europe like our super mom Naomi Corey is and Nick where are we at as a country?
It looks like we're another 50-50 country.
Are we in perpetual stalemate or are we becoming a socialist?
I don't even say Republic we've got the rule of law even under question
John you
want the good news or the bad news?
Bad news first, always.
The bad news is you're in for a rough time.
The good news is this is normal.
Okay, talk to us.
This is normal.
Look at what you saw this midterm is not unlike what you saw with respect to other midterms that we've had.
It
goes like this.
What you've got right now are both houses are divided, both parties are divided and they're fighting over the government.
This happens all the time.
They hate each other.
They're polarized.
They throw their names at each other.
Okay?
Go back in history.
This is not the first time this happens folks.
This happens about every 40 years.
For example, I want you to go back to what occurred during Jimmy Carter's years.
The Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan transition.
What caused that?
The country was polarized like it is now.
Now, admittedly, we didn't have social media.
where you have twenty four seven in your face philosophical news all the time but the country was polarized in the last you went into the same situation with regard to uh... bush and clinton this is a natural phenomenon of a democracy like ours a republic like ours necessary democracy so it's natural what you end up with is you're going to have with the predictions hold true
the republicans are going to take control of the house the democrats will have control of the senate and have control of the uh... presidency okay you got divided government which means you've got to get together compromise and do something one of the problems that we've seen when one when one party controls both houses of congress and the presidency is they really don't do a lot other than
throw mud at the party that's out of office.
You investigate everything to death.
Frankly, we need less investigations and more legislation.
Well, how about a budget for starters?
It'd be nice for the Congress to come up with an actual budget.
We haven't had a budget in what?
Since Lincoln was around?
It's been over
20 years.
We've been going
on
continuing resolutions for two decades.
get responsible.
But this is normal.
I'm seeing the same thing happen over in the UK.
We had a prime minister for what?
A month?
30 some days?
What the
And you look at it, okay, it's the same situation.
The difference is this, folks.
The people over there have a parliamentary system.
Parley means to talk.
You got many different factions.
that are represented at that table all talking to one another.
We have a two-party system, a congressional system, and our state legislatures based on the same thing.
We don't have multiple parties.
So what you end up with is compromise.
You have to have some system designed to get compromised, or you get nothing done.
Here with
Nick Ratelian.
Yeah, you've set the table beautifully, you guys.
So we're going to entertain some questions for Henry and Nick.
I'm going to start with Henry, and I know Sheila I think has a question for Nick.
So Henry, you represent what I think is good, and that is new blood in leadership.
And I'm telling you, I'm familiar with midterm elections.
And Barack Obama got dropped.
And Bill Clinton got dropped.
George W. Bush got dropped.
Donald Trump got dropped.
We have a cognitively affected president that basically didn't lose seats in a midterm.
Henry, I'm not going to put you on the spot, but Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy and Roman McDaniel, they got to go.
They screwed the pooch.
They blew it.
They lost the midterms.
and even some fault redounds on former President Trump.
Henry, I'm glad that in the Iowa House we are getting some new blood in there.
You're basically just starting your second term.
What visions do you have and why do you think Iowa has maintained an ability to come out with a coherent message that the rest of the country wasn't able to produce?
I think there's obviously there's many facets.
that, right?
Obviously, when you're talking about Iowans and the message that the Iowa Republicans had, you know, we can talk all day long about taxes, we can talk about inflation, you know, we can, we can talk about $6 gas.
But if people were truly concerned about $6 gas, California would be solid red, right?
People aren't voting a lot of the youth today a lot of the people today aren't voting on those issues If this is a culture war, yes, we're battling and we need to change the culture we need to protect our kids We need to educate them in a way that you know gets rid of the
the liberal mindset.
We have to be able to teach our kids to talk to each other.
As adults, we need to be able to talk to each other.
And so I think that's actually what happened.
The culture here in Iowa, you know, Iowans saw that the Republican Party is moving Iowa in the right direction, whether you think it's incrementally or you think that it's big steps.
regardless, we're moving Iowa in the right direction.
And so that's why there was such an outpouring for Republicans up and down the ticket, right?
From state executive positions to the Iowa Senate and to the Iowa House.
Iowa was like an oasis, Henry.
Representative Stone, majority whip elect.
We'll let Henry talk about that too, but Nick, your first shot at that.
Let me put this out here.
I am not a Republican, nor am I a Democrat.
I'm an independent.
I was a Democrat.
The Republican Party, as it exists today, not five years ago, but today, is really Kennedy Democrats.
When I take a look at what the party stands for, capitalism, good work ethic, this type of thing, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your
That's my kind of rhetoric.
That's John F. Kennedy, Democrat.
Lunchbox Democrat.
But the problem is, is that the Republican Party itself hasn't identified with regard to the boots on the ground working people.
It has an identity issue, and I think this election brought that to the field.
To some extent, John, there's a bit of a political science malpractice on behalf of the Republicans.
She didn't analyze it well.
Who are the Republicans?
I'll tell you who the Democrats are.
The Democrats are the party of a subsidized class, the unexperienced and over-education professional administrative class people, and the ultra-wealthy environmental and technology moguls.
But they had nothing to do with the Democrat Party that I was a part of at all.
keep in mind those people okay the the unexperienced overeducated uh and professional class control things and the media controls the the airways as Sheila has indicated the public republican party needs to go out there and yeah encourage absentee voting my god you had enough evidence of that in the last election you know you need to deal with it and it's the same states
where we've had this problem it's Nevada, Arizona, Georgia
Pennsylvania Scotty
wants to operate because it's conservative by nature it wants to it wants to run this election like it has the last 10 well that doesn't work
we'll have stone answer here but Scotty you got a quick rejoin yeah
a quick question from actually both of you talking about the Republican Party well in Iowa the Republican Party owns the trifecta now we have the governor's office and Kim Reynolds we have now a super majority in both the Iowa House I think it's 64 out of the 100 representatives are
Republican in the Senate, 34 are Republican out of the 50.
Representative Stone and as well as Mr. Critelli talked us a little bit about the battles that are going to be waged on the soul of the priorities and ideologically of the bills moving forward because a good friend of mine who used to be the Speaker of the House, I'm not going to mention his name, said that when he was in charge, the Democrats in the House were your opponent.
But those expletives in the Senate are your enemy.
And so is that kind of where we're at right now?
Henry, take first whack at this.
Let Henry go on the neck.
Yeah, no, you know, I think we need to work better together.
I think that, you know, the what I've seen in my two years, there is a lot of
discussions that do happen, and probably more than I saw behind the scenes.
Obviously, I wasn't in leadership.
And so reaching out across the aisle, meaning to the other chamber, I believe that maybe we can do a better job, or maybe we can articulate our points better.
And this is all speculation, obviously.
I'm just getting into leadership.
But what I have found is that there are a lot of us.
Um, that are of the like mindset, uh, with each other, uh, between the house and the Senate.
And so I've always tried to forge relationships, uh, you know, with my, my colleagues over the Senate, um, bounce ideas off of run bills concurrently.
And so, and that's kind of where I'm at now.
Um,
I'm getting people bored on both sides.
So, hey, you know, we can pass good legislation on both sides.
Now, when it comes to the soul of what we're trying to change,
said previously, I truly believe that this is something that comes down the culture and changing the culture, changing the mindset.
And that starts with our children.
It starts with our children and how they're educated.
and what is being taught to them and making sure that we stay focused on an education without interjecting social ideas and things like that into daily curriculum.
Representative Stone, you've been strong on that.
We're going to go to Nick in just a second.
Representative Stone, I want to give you kudos.
We did get some...
medical freedom through, your bill was one of them and didn't you shepherd that bill to protect school children from forced uh, Myrna's?
Um, I did actually, um, you can't mandate, uh, the COVID vaccine, uh, for children in order for them to go, uh, to school.
And, and the key part about that, um, is, uh, you can't deny enrollment.
And so it used to be enrollment was defined as, you know, in, in the
in the school.
Well, COVID came along and now enrollment meant you could teach at home.
And so I wanted to make sure that you didn't discriminate against a child that did not want the vaccine.
Their parents didn't want to have them have the vaccine that you said, okay, well, you're enrolled, but you can only take classes from home since we have an online system.
And so I wanted to make sure that I protected kids, allowed them to be with their peers.
in school being taught day to day without giving up their medical freedom.
So it was a pleasure of mine to run that bill, to author that bill and get it through and signed by the governor.
Yeah, and part of the reason we had that carve out was because, frankly, the Senate and the governor told us they were not going to sign a comprehensive omnibus medical freedom bill.
And what Henry did was
What we could get done, but Henry, you were such a good supporter of my omnibus bill, but that got derailed because you know, the governor and the Senate.
would not accept a standalone bill without some tort reform on there.
And, you know, we lost some of our folks that, you know, wanted to also protect the trial attorneys and it was tough.
So, Henry, I hope you can take that spirit in there because like on the carbon, carbon capture pipeline issue, the house put a moratorium on and Eric Brandstad ran up to Capitol Hill and got the Senate to cave in an afternoon.
We need some people with balls, don't we?
No, absolutely, absolutely.
And I know we put the moratorium on there.
But before that, I actually wrote the bill that would prevent eminent
And so that didn't go anywhere.
I understand it.
I do understand politics in that aspect.
But I do know that myself, along with other legislators,
are taking a more comprehensive look at eminent domain usage of pipelines as we move forward into this next session.
Yeah, Barrister, Critelli, I hate that kilo decision and so does David Overholzer.
He hates it with a passion.
What about this eminent domain thing, Mr. Critelli?
Well,
you know, we've had, we've been fighting eminent domain since this country was created, John.
Okay.
One of the foundations of your country is the right to own property, the right to deal with property.
Okay.
Well, then, of course, in the constitution, you have issues.
Well, what if the government needs your property for the public good?
Well, it has to pay just compensation for it.
Two issues.
Number one, what is the public good?
Number two, what is just compensation?
There's got to be a balance there.
That balance,
You guys with respect to government generally depends upon what party you're in.
If you're a Democrat in today's world, if you're a Democrat, you are a ruler.
If you are a Republican, you're a governor.
And there's a world of difference between governance and ruling.
Well said.
Well said.
Okay.
Rule is what monarchs do.
I'm going to tell you what to do and you're going to pay for
it.
Okay.
That's what you get in the domain as viewed by the Democrats.
Republicans, it's the same situation except it's spun differently.
So that's
why maybe even,
so Nick, is that why maybe even there's Republican support for something like the carbon capture pipeline?
Because maybe there are certain Republicans with significant financial
interest in such an enterprise.
You know, it's not just that, John.
We are not a democracy.
We're a republic.
You elect people that make decisions, compromise positions and so forth for what they truly believe to be the greater good of the people.
The people believe they make decisions for the greater good of their own pocketbook.
Now you can have conspiracy theories and all that going.
But the fact of the matter is most people that I've met at the Iowa Legislature, Republican or Democrat, want to do the right thing.
Nick Depp, Dave Overholster is going to close us out.
We got one minute left here.
David, a
minute and a half.
Go, baby.
I just want to point out to folks, if you don't think this impacts you locally, after the kilo decision in the Iowa legislation passed the, um, eminent domain law, the.
Council Plus City Council voted to condemn the entire West End of Council Plus began that process.
The only city council member not to vote for it was Matt Schultz.
All the other city council members approved the first step because there was a deadline.
So they didn't know if they were going to condemn them or not, but they went and began the first step to meet the deadline so the city could condemn anything on the West End of Council Plus.
This stuff, it impacts you locally.
Wow, powerfully said by Dave Overholzer.
Oh, I love that Neil Diamond music from half a century ago.
It brings back fond nostalgic memories, including my family's fond esteem and affection for the Hames family.
Kurt Norma
of blessed memory, just great icons in that post-World War II era, building a magnificent business in eastern Iowa that frankly, give thousands of people and continues to give thousands of people that most fundamental of all basic needs of human existence, shelter, safe shelter, affordable shelter, beautiful shelter.
Barbara, James Bryant, you carry on in that tradition.
How fortunate we are to have you with us today.
Thank you, John.
I really appreciate those kind words about my parents.
And I think that I will go far beyond calling our product shelter.
I mean, that is the most basic of all needs.
These homes are just so beautiful.
They're spacious.
They have
Island kitchens and gardens, hubs and spacious decks.
Oh, they're just so much more than just plain old shelter.
We're very proud of them.
Yes, the aesthetics of these are really, really beautiful.
And Barbara, looking at these, these are nice communities.
You've got a couple of wonderful
communities through your organization, through Hames Homes, talk about those communities.
Because Barbara, right now, we see this economic milieu that we're in.
It's crunch time for a lot of families that because of high interest rates, Good Grief Jerome Powell just raised another 75 basis points the other day.
This hasn't happened since Volcker.
40 years ago, high interest rates,
You are absolutely a tremendous option and alternative for families to get financing and affordability with these beautiful homes in this current economic climate.
That's right, John.
I'd like to tell you about a family that came in recently.
It was a mom and dad who were looking for a home for their son who's getting out of the Air Force.
And they looked at site-built homes and for anything decent, even in Cedar Rapids,
$250,000, $300,000, or more than that.
Well, they found a beautiful Haynes home for about $105,000.
That's almost 2,000 square feet on a beautiful lot.
Wow.
They're going to buy it for their son.
2,000
square
feet, 2,000
square
feet at 105,000.
That's a tremendous opportunity for a starter home, isn't it?
It is and all of our lots are big enough that folks can put their own garages on them too if they'd like
Wow that you know that that's really phenomenal because as a in the banking industry as I am Barbara these increased interest rates are
cutting people out of some home purchases because some of these interest rate hikes mean $100 or $200 a month more in their monthly payment.
You've got an alternative and I trust you've got financing.
We've talked about this before.
Tell us about your financing option.
We have an in-house captive finance company called Circle Finance LLC.
All of our salespeople are very knowledgeable about financing options, not just with us, with Circle Finance.
but also local and national lenders.
So we really try hard to get the customers in the right home with right financing.
Barbara, talk about opportunities for good neighborhoods, good communities, for young families with children to be located in your fine communities that you have.
I'm glad you asked.
All of our communities, Grandview and Summitview, have two parks and two playgrounds each.
Each one is a little bit different.
Oh, I have to tell you, we also just opened up a dog park.
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
Yes.
It's a 16,000 square foot dog park that all the fur babies and four-legged friends can get out and enjoy, including children.
Oh, but it's been a huge popular amenity.
We just opened it a couple of weeks ago and we're very proud of it.
We think we're the only
manufactured home community in eastern Iowa that has a dog park.
Barbara, James Bryant, you've always been on the cutting edge.
You know, the lovely and gracious Mrs. Jacobson and I may want to move to your community.
You know, I grew up in eastern Iowa and this Ornery Condo Association we're in, they just are dog and my dogs all the time.
I'm telling you, they're not as pet friendly as I would like.
Barbara, you've done some tremendous things for the community.
Just outstanding excellence in your outreach even to feed the folks.
Let's talk about the food pantries that you've got going.
That is another amenity that we added this year.
At our Summit View office, we are now a registered and licensed food pantry provider of Hay Cap.
So we get food from Hay Cap and we also get it from Quaker Oats.
Hey Cap is Hawkeye Area Community Action Program.
It's one of the basic non-profits here in this area.
We have that, the food pantry is stocked with just about everything you can imagine.
Food, fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, meats, eggs, dairy, plenty of Coyker cereal, and we also have dog treats.
Wow, that's really nice.
Many, many, many years ago, I ran the community action agencies as executive director over in Nebraska.
That haycap does many fine things.
Barbara, you have got a multi-generational approach.
You and siblings have taken the mantle from your late great parents, and there's another generation in the wings currently already plugged in, correct?
That's right.
Troy's son, who is Curtis Haynes IV, whose son is Curtis Haynes V, works in our office.
Troy's son-in-law, Clint Alderman, is one of our sales representatives.
His wife is Morgan Haynes, Troy's oldest daughter, and my son, Shawn Bryant, works here, and he does outside property
maintenance.
Oh, this is great.
I'm in a bank that's a multi-
generational family bank.
There's so much pride in a family business and the institutional memory and continuity of customer service is so outstanding.
And I think your reputation in the community has just been sterling, Barbara, which I use as a bit of a segue.
Your father and mother, of course, were very active civically in Cedar Rapids and including for very good.
government policies, influencing good legislation across the board, and you now have a wanted position.
You have been elected and are currently serving as the head of the Iowa Republican Women's Federation.
That's quite a lofty perch from which you get to operate Barbara Hames Bryant.
My dad always used to say politics is not a spectator sport.
If you don't participate, you get the government you deserve.
Indeed.
He had a lot of great things like that and I've taken it to heart.
I'm very involved in Republican politics here in Eastern Iowa and in the state of Iowa.
Barbara, Second Amendment is so important and so is our
First amendment, it seems like the cancel culture is on the prowl.
How do we beat that back, Barbara?
Talk about your second amendment.
Talk about all of our amendments.
Yes.
Our constitution doesn't need to be rewritten.
Correct.
The cancel culture, what people think.
Our constitution used to be reread.
Yes.
Everything in there is as relevant today as it was 250 years ago.
Barbara, how can we get ahold of you wonderful people?
at Haymes Homes because we're going to have people listening in very interested whether they're young families, a parent that wants to help a son or daughter moving back into the area, starter homes, a nice option for seniors.
How do they get a hold of you?
We are a non-partisan provider of beautiful affordable housing.
I hope people know that.
The best way to reach us is at www.hameshomes.com.
We invite anybody and everybody to come and take a look at our product and see if this is the right thing and the right place for them.
Barbara, you're just such always a charming interview.
Mike Shane just always nods his head.
We call her one take Barbara.
The flawless
Barbara Hames Bryant.
Go see these wonderful folks at Hames Homes.
Barbara, always a joy to visit with you.
Thank you, John.
It's always a pleasure.
Well, John, it's been another great show here on KXEL.
Iowa has a big showdown later today up in Minneapolis to keep Floyd and Rosdale back in Iowa City.
It's going to be a cold one.
Hopefully Norm Parker's defense can shut down Minnesota's running game.
It's going to be quite a weekend.
What do you think?
Oh, Scotty, it brings a wax nostalgic.
Those Golden Gophers have broken my heart on a couple of these November tilts, but
If the Hawks can do it today, they're in the driver's seat for a Big 10 West championship.
And yes, they give a trophy for the Big 10 West championship as well.
So maybe we can sweep these last three trophy games and then win a trophy for Big 10 West and go for a bowl game trophy.
I want to thank the great Mike Shane, the master at the controls here, the Montgomery Scott of the Broadcasting USS Enterprise.
In Scotty, we want to wish all of our listeners, those here this morning, and those who will listen to the replay on Sunday afternoon at three o'clock, happy Thanksgiving upcoming to you and your families.
We'll catch you on the back side of the Thanksgiving weekend, but God bless America, what a great country, and what a great nation that knows that gratitude is the heart of prayer and that Thanksgiving
is the right way to be situated with our creator who endowed us with these great gifts.
That's a great point,
John, and finish it up.
As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
Listen, folks, grab that WKRP episode if you can.
For you youngsters there who may not catch the cultural reference, you need to burnish your Americana with the WKRP's classic episode from the 70s.
In the meantime, be safe, be smart, be good, be strong.
Love Jesus Christ.
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