KXEL Presents: The Jacobsen Group Podcast - November 5, 2022

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John Jacobson here, the Jacobson group with Mike Shane, Scott Corey, Chip Reidman in studio.

And guys, you're listening to us on 1540 AM, the legendary beacon, as well as 100.5 FM.

And Scott Corey, the last few days,

You're an ag businessman.

We call this the million dollar rain, baby.

We do.

And now with inflation, it's about a million points eight.

But we are grateful for the moisture across the state.

You know, we've been having a drought.

But this rain is going to help alleviate the drought.

You know, it's kind of like Iowa football.

We were going through a drought with victories and an offensive output last couple of weeks and playing in Northwestern.

Who would have thought Northwestern would have made us look like a competent offensive football team.

That was an outlier.

It was Northwestern.

But no, it's going to be a big 10 battle later today as we take on Purdue in West Lafayette.

I hope it's raining.

I hope it's windy.

I hope it's snowing just to slow down that offense and to give Iowa's defense and special teams a shot to put us over the victory line.

But here we are in the final month of the big 10 season.

Let's fire

up that Hawkeye fight song.

Let's get everybody jazzed here, guys, because I go back to my first year of law school in 85.

That year when Iowa was number one for the majority of the season.

Coming off of that great boot leg against Michigan State.

Coming from behind at Kinnock to begin to stoke that undefeated season up to that point in time.

And there was an autumnal day, a wet, damp day at West Lafayette where we were trailing.

And then Purdue coach Leanne Bertonette had them all waving their verges at the terrible towels.

And I thought we were on the ropes.

And if Hayden and Chuck Long didn't pull a rabbit out of their hat again, maybe, boy, Purdue's had our number.

Maybe we can get some West Lafayette magic, Scotty Corey.

You know, I'm hoping so.

You know, I kind of wish for the days of Joe Tiller, at least Kirk Ferris could beat Joe Tiller.

I saw a terrible stat this morning.

Kurt Farrance versus Jeff Brahm.

Jeff Brahm has an 80% winning percentage against Kurt Farrance.

Who would have thought Purdue would have been owning Iowa the last few years?

It's just unbelievable.

And as an Iowa fanship, Reedman, I will not forget what happened last year in Kenick Stadium when Iowa was number two.

And Purdue came in there and just beat our doors off.

So it's going to be a tough season, I think, moving forward.

I just never have understood

what happened to Purdue.

Growing up, I always figured Purdue was a win.

Bob Greasy, Mike Phipps, though, in the 60s, they were a team.

I'm so old.

Well,

Drew Brees, it's a quarterback college to a point.

But I always figured Purdue was a win.

I've just never understood how all of a sudden they turned things around there.

And kudos to them for doing it.

You know, Brum has definitely.

brought the program up to a very good level.

But it's like, same thing with Illinois.

I always, you look at a schedule, and no, Purdue, it's a win.

Illinois, it's a win.

Well, there are losses now.

Yeah, and it just shows too that coaching has so much to do, especially in the Big Ten West, where these coaches have kind of figured it out.

Purdue is kind of an outlier.

They are one of those teams, they don't...

play football like in Iowa or Illinois or anything like that in the West or Wisconsin.

They're a West Coast offense.

They're a fun and gun type situation.

And they always seem to do very well against certain teams, but they can never get over the hump.

As long as we've had the divisions in the Big 10, they've never won the Big 10 West.

Well, that's where you get

into the wear and tear question is how is Purdue getting through that?

You look at Iowa.

Nebraska is not there right now.

Minnesota, Wisconsin, it is all about it's a black and blue division.

if you wanna look at the NFL North, you have to, I've never understood why teams come into this and try the West Coast offense and think they're actually being successful because it just doesn't happen that often.

And like you said, you can play well for a few games, you can maybe get a couple upsets, but.

The long trend is you're going to be wore down.

Your front line has got to be able to handle, particularly on defense, these bruisers that are coming up against you from Iowa, these corn fed beef kids from Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska.

It's just, you know, it's just a long road to hoe when you come in with that kind of an offense.

You know, you know, John and Chip, too, the thing that really concerns me moving forward, too, is once we get

past the Big Ten announcement in 2024 when UCLA and USC joined the conference.

We're getting away from divisions.

And it's going to be interesting to see...

how they do the scheduling.

Do we go to 10 conference games?

How many protected so-called rivalry games do we have for each team?

And I think Purdue will be one of those teams where Iowa does not get to see very often anymore, but they're going to be one of those teams that always decides kind of who goes to Indianapolis to be a part of that championship game.

We've talked about this before about the 10 game schedule, looking at it from the Nebraska perspective, and I'm also thinking of the businesses in Lincoln.

They have been living for years on seven home games.

That is a huge impact.

It's like Christmas to them.

It's their Christmas season is that time.

You take away one of those games, that's you take away one seventh of a huge chunk of their income that they had that weekend.

So I'd be curious to know, we'll probably never know, will Nebraska vote or push for that to happen?

Regarding getting rid of the East and West division, I think it's probably a good idea.

I'm not looking forward to playing more teams from the East, but you look at what's going on on that side with Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State

for a little while.

Well, I will call it a break on next year's schedule.

Yes, yes.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I think Nebraska's actually, you know, on the bottom of the same boat, not too bad.

But to be on that side and have, if you're Maryland or Rutgers, oh, good news.

We play Ohio State, Michigan,

Penn State every year.

Yeah, that's

tough.

It's like, like I was saying earlier, it's three checks that aren't wins.

They're going to be losses.

That's a heck of a way to go

into a season.

That's why I still say

It's attractive for coaching prospects for that Big 10 West, Scotty.

You can come in the Big 10 West, and that's why it opened.

A coach who'd come in there in two, three years, whereas going to an SEC school or the Big 10 East would be more difficult.

I think it makes a job like Nebraska.

and even Iowa when Kirk retires a sexier job interview.

You know I think that's a lot of that has to be said and it's interesting too but you look at the Big Ten West and it's been down this year and it gets a lot of heat especially from the ESPN SEC blowtorch

out there.

Wonder why, wonder why.

Yeah,

shocking that ESPN and the SEC would be bagging on on the Big Ten but if you look at it though since we've gone to the east and to the west divisions there's only been three teams that have actually

won the West.

It's been Wisconsin, it's been Iowa, and it's been Northwestern.

So those three teams have dominated the conference, and I would argue too that it's probably been Wisconsin, then Iowa.

And so breaking that up a little bit perception wise is probably a good thing.

The key to though is now that our good friend and former Hawkeye Burt is over at head coaching at the fighting up.

Yeah.

Belima is going to be at Illinois now.

He's got that program turned around.

He could actually win the West and you know in Chippinville Nebraska if they can actually turn this thing around.

I hate to say it.

And it's a big word if they can turn it around the next couple of years and actually be more

had a day of in the conference, that would actually be a good thing for the conference as well.

Well, yes, it absolutely would.

OK, so you brought up UCLA and USC a little bit ago.

And you're talking about Purdue and the, I won't call it the fun and gun, but it is a West Coast offense.

So Nebraska is going to be getting a new coach.

We don't know what kind of offense they're going to have.

Obviously, Wisconsin is going through a transition.

We don't know if Leonard's going to get the job or not and what they're going to do there.

Friends, you know, I'm not saying he's gone or anything, but his days are reaching an end.

So there's a coaching change coming there So is there the possibility as I was talking about earlier This is the black and blue division where everyone beats each other up with those two new teams coming in from the coast and Two to three new coaching changes and Purdue already switching is it possible Scott that somewhere in the next two or three years we see the

Big 10 West or those teams changed to a different paradigm where it's not all about you know putting the beef up front and hammering the ball.

I think it's very likely that something will happen especially because now we are in the NIL phase of recruiting and things like that and you know if you want to question anything.

Look at what Nick Saban did down in Alabama.

Nick Saban for years has been known for defense and we're going to line up in the eye and use the full back.

But now Nick Saban's Alabama teams are putting up 40 and 50 points regularly

in

the SEC.

So

if

Nick Saban can change, any coach can change as far as I'm concerned.

And I think too, you know, if you're a young kid that's, you know, on offense and if you're going to look at the Big Ten West, you're going to look and see, OK, how am I going to fit in?

How am I going to propel myself to maybe get some NIL?

And how am I going to go off the NFL?

And so you have to pick those teams.

And if you're a skilled player, you're probably not going to be picking Iowa to go play on offense.

But if you're a skilled player on defense, I'm going to Iowa.

That's a interesting point.

So there's been many articles written about fairings and.

his lack of adapting to the NIL and to the transfer

portal.

And he's younger than Saban, by the

way,

guys.

He's

younger than Saban.

Yeah, we're talking probably what, minutes or something.

So, yeah, Iowa is at a disadvantage.

I've not been down there, so I don't know what the facilities are like.

There's a lot of talk that Nebraska should be able to draw a good coach because they're building new facilities.

The facilities they had before that weren't really old or bad.

The weight room, Sue put a lot of money, donated a lot of money for their weight room.

So the facilities are there, they should be able to draw a coach.

You know, you're talking about the new kid coming in.

Is the NIL gonna draw him in?

Yes, at Nebraska, Iowa's got to play catch up.

These are facilities.

Wisconsin's facilities, I'm here not really that great either.

Right.

They really need to revamp Camp Randall in their whole program.

They're

stuck.

They're like landlocked or they're in a position where they really can't grow anything.

So I want to think Nebraska's got an advantage on that, but you never know.

There is still a name.

There still comes down to the coaches that have to draw the kids in being smart, bringing players in.

It's a big guessing game, really.

I have no answers to what's going to happen going down the road.

You know, that brings up a great point, too, is that, John, we talked about this a lot, especially the last two years, is you talk about the identity of Iowa, the identity of Purdue, the identity of Nebraska, and...

I've maintained Chip and John that Nebraska's identity has not been solidified since they've joined the Big 10.

You've gone through so

many,

so many coaches the last couple years and you know, you've gone from the West Coast offense to kind of a spread offense to a, to a, you know, Mike Riley offense, which I don't even know quite how you qualify that.

So I mean, you know, so it's Nebraska's at a turning point.

I think there's so many teams at a turning point now that it's going to be interesting to see how they do that.

The one thing is going to be constant, though, is that the big 10 is going to put probably three teams in the new college football playoff whenever that has decided three to four teams because you're looking at 12 teams nationwide.

So if you're looking at coming into Iowa in a couple years or Nebraska, you got to say, hey, I got a pretty good shot of not only.

Competing at the highest level.

I'm on in Fox.

I'm on ESP are in NBC I'm on all these programs and I gotta be in the playoffs more times than not so guys

as we Wrap up the sports segment here because we're gonna talk about elections.

I want your take on two things Take number one We're talking about how many conference games will be in the new super big 10 conference and how many rivalries will be preserved now?

We got a lot of Notre Dame Subway alumni in Eastern Iowa.

I get it.

All you folks in Dubuque and Clinton and Quad Cities, but that Purdue Notre Dame game has been a big game historically.

Is that going to be retained?

Notre Dame is going to have to decide and decide pretty quickly what they want to do.

And I just have to throw this out there for all my

Friends who are Notre Dame fans for the fighting Irish.

I know Chip Redman here is good friends of the Notre Dame president Classmates at least yeah, what I say Mike Shane is Notre Dame is even the best football team in Indiana

That I would agree with I would agree with that 100% and you talk about going to a 10 potentially 10 team

conference or a schedule conference wide.

The Iowa State game.

That is probably going to be done.

That if they go that big, what is the point of playing that?

Because you need

alumnus chip reading.

What

do you say about that chip?

I hate to see it go away.

I'm old.

I'm an old guy.

And so I like tradition.

I like things that have been done and established something that people

You can get your arms around the

game.

Yeah, you may not like it, Scott.

I mean, I'm

not.

No, I hate that game.

I actually hate that game.

You

may not like it.

But actually, but that tells you how important the game is,

you know,

that you

hate it so much that you want to see it played so you can hate it more.

Yeah, we all love the hate.

Take two before we say we're here.

So this magnificent Drew Stevens, who did not miss the kick at Iowa State.

and who has been kicking for the Hawkeyes ever since.

Threaded a magnificent 54 yarder.

That had extra leg in it.

It was straight through the uprights.

So...

In the Twitter world, the father of Drew Stevens tweeted, quote, scholarship the kicker first before he finds someone who will.

He has subsequently deleted the tweet.

Scotty and Chip cared away in it all.

Not just a dad

cut.

That is a dad thing.

Yeah, and I think it's kind of like when parents tell their kids, don't put stuff out on Twitter.

The kid needs to tell his dad, don't put stuff on Twitter.

Did this to give

everybody?

The kids should have told a couple of harks not to put anything up on cameo, too.

Well, those I think were worthwhile.

But you know, when you talk about this, the scholarship issue, do I think the kid has probably earned a scholarship?

Absolutely.

Now, the precedent has been set under the 24 years of Curt Ferrance is that

when he offers a scholarship to somebody who's a walk on, it's done at the end of the year.

So he has to wait just a couple more games.

The kid is following precedent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And everybody's known that too.

And so the

father put pressure on the kid.

What if you start shanking?

Well, that's what that's what I'm afraid is that he'll probably shank a 10 yard field goal because Kirk is known for kicking inside the 20 a lot.

But you know, one of those things, it's just unbelievable.

And you know, Chip, Nebraska saw the same thing a couple of years ago with some of their

players and their folks on social media, too, putting pressure on the previous Scott Frost coaching staff.

Actually, you can go back to when COVID was going on and not being played.

Iowa, Nebraska, several teams.

Ohio State, the parents got involved pushing the conference about playing the games.

So I'm sitting here scrolling my phone real quick.

I'm thinking Nebraska's finally got a good punter and a good kicker, but I'm trying to find out what year our kicker is, because if he's a senior, maybe we'll be making a call to Iowa and say, not only can we give you a scholarship.

Just

go to

Australia.

We got

NIL money, dude.

Just go to Oz like all the other Big Ten teams.

Well, and if I'm Matt Campbell and Ames, I'm calling this kid right now because that kicker that they got at Iowa State, I mean, he shanked so many field goals in that Kansas game you and I were watching, John.

It's just amazing.

I hope he's

not a golf club pro in the off season because there might be some duck hooks off the

tee.

Well, it just goes.

Slicing.

I don't know if he favors left or right.

Well, it just goes back to why I hate the Iowa State game.

It seems like whatever.

Iowa plays Iowa State.

Their kickers can't miss anything from 80 yards out.

But when they play some other team like Kansas, they can't hit a 15 yard field

goal.

Just what goes around comes around.

And it just happens to be your week that

week.

Unbelievable.

I will say this.

If the Hawks can do it today, I think they're back on track with an upset win for bold eligibility and not to dis on shipper.

I think this could be a pivotal game for Iowa in terms of turning a season around if somehow in the damp wet.

weather at West Lafayette.

Maybe that neuters the Purdue offense just a wee bit.

What say you guys?

You know, absolutely.

I think this is a must win game.

I do too.

And the weather, if it's as nasty as they're talking about, I think this could actually play into Phil Parker's defense.

And those ball hawks back there, especially Cooper and Riley Moss, I think they could have a big day.

It'd be nice to shut down Charlie Jones.

It sure would.

You know, I don't blame the kid for going where he did.

You know, good for him, but I hope he drops a lot of balls.

Yeah, yeah,

you know you got the last word No offense Scott, but it's they're all must win games at this time of the

season

Yeah, I mean the brass is down to four of them and the chances of making a bowl a party slim

Well,

when Nikki Joseph talks like he does, I think he just put a target on the locker rooms for Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa by digress.

Well, and they all do that.

I've looked at that, his statement that he made reference to Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and also about Ohio State.

You can read that a couple

different ways.

If you're a coach, you paper that in your lockers, man.

I'd exploit that.

Well, that's right.

And again, it's depending on how you read it.

I

don't

think he meant it in any way of dissing those teams.

I don't either.

Because it still comes down to, OK, if I beat those teams, I'm still facing Ohio State.

You're not getting around.

Oh, it could be Michigan, actually,

this year.

Yeah, it could.

You're not getting around that game if you have any intention on trying to make it to the playoffs, whether it's four teams now or even 12

teams

down the road.

You know, that's still, it's in Nebraska's thinking, it's still that shiny object

out there, it's still a

national title.

It's rather tarnished now, that image, but that's what we're

looking for.

Well, the Nebraska fans today are as far removed in time from that last national championship in 1997 as Hawkeye fans were when Hayden Fry took the helm, recounting the great Forrest Eveshevsky.

national championships of the 50s.

Actually, it's longer.

That was only a 20 year gap.

This has been 25 years.

So there literally is a generation of Husker fans.

Yeah.

Chip that don't know of the five national titles that we saw the Huskers next door have.

My kids don't.

They were born in 95 and 98.

And I assure you, the one born in 95 doesn't know anything about what happened in 90s.

Right.

Exactly.

Well, there's going to be a lot of history being made because we're heading into another very unique midterm election.

We're going to crank up our music.

And

guys,

we are days away.

We are days away from what I consider to be one of the most consequential midterm elections and an electorate that has been basically in stasis for several cycles of 50-50.

Country and of course you've had these margins of Democrats Republicans in power But the margins in the Senate the house have always been threadbare narrow and I am sensing There's a zeitgeist out there that this is going to be a watershed election if not a landslide perhaps a massacre that That Joe Biden is leading the Democrats to an historic defeat

perhaps Legendarily ranking up there with the pasting that Republicans took twice in my lifetime the 64 election When Republicans basically got wiped off the map in Iowa that was a presidential election when of course Johnson beat Goldwater 61 to 39 and swept most of the states but even in 74 the true midterm During the Watergate

Debacle it was horrendous for Republicans in November after Nixon resigned in August I was working campaigns back then Bob Ray was about the only Republican and Chuck Grassley who won in the state of Iowa Scotty and Chip

You think I'm onto something here or am I hyperbolic?

No, I think you're onto something, John.

I think it kind of boils down to the James Carville comments of 1992 where it all comes down to is the economy stupid.

You know, every time a person goes to the gas station or you go to your local grocery store or you pay your utility bill, I mean, you're seeing the effects of this president's policies and inflation.

And so I think you're going to see a huge wipeout of the Democrats in the state of Iowa.

A couple races I'm going to keep an eye on.

One of them is going to be in the Iowa Senate.

Right now, Republicans control the Iowa Senate.

There's 50 senators and they have 32 seats.

And one of the key matchups this year is actually here in our listening area.

It's Senate District 39 where incumbent Republican Don Driscoll is taking on incumbent Kevin Kinney, who's a Democrat.

We were calling

their numbers at the All-Star Game.

by the

way we were we were and they were put together due to the redistricting and everything now that the district leans 37% to Democrats in about 18 to 19% Republicans but with the headwinds that are going on down there

it's not an independence

it's a huge independence in

Iowa not uncommon

in eastern Iowa and it's parts of Johnston or excuse me Johnston Kierke in Washington's counties and I think Don Driscoll is gonna end up winning that there would

be a bell whether it

As Katie bar the door.

Yes, if she wins that you know, there's a lot of talk in Des Moines if the Republican

talking to leadership You've got some numbers for Senate in-house and this may floor some of our listeners But Scotty these are off the charts numbers.

They are

what are they looking

at right now in order to for the governor Reynolds if she's reelected which we all assume she will be 60 40 at least She's going to have to reappoint a lot of her members of her administration now the Senate does a lot of confirmation

And when it comes to that and so in order to

have that supermajority

Supermajority that's because right now Republicans need to vote two votes from the Democrats to get their vote her conferees through which is 34 votes

And that's tough.

They've

been

stubborn on some

of these.

Yep Tony Biziano or some of the friendlies if you can call on that to put them over the top

And then there's you know a lot of log rolling You know you vote for my guide will vote for whatever or will bring up whatever for debate if they can get to 34 which is

likely yeah so there is talk also from a couple key members of Senate Republican leadership they could be looking at 36 members of the Senate which would be unheard of.

Unpressed and Republican but it looks you know I'm the member of the House retiring here after

just shy of seven years, having won a special election.

Scotty, I think the numbers could be bigger than in my lifetime for Republicans in the Iowa House.

Absolutely.

And then in the Iowa House, you know, there's 100 House members and right now Republicans hold it 60 to 40.

John, I and Chip, I think Republicans are looking at 63 members.

And if that's the case,

We're going to see something that we've never seen before, not even during the 08 Obama years where the Democrats had the trifecta.

They never had these type of numbers.

I will miss Charlie McConkie putting on his Elroy Jetson space helmet during pandemics.

You know, Charlie is one of those guys.

Let's just say he fit his district very well.

But you know, Chip, it's one of those landslide elections I think we could be looking at and one of the key congressional.

targets we're looking at, too, is the third congressional district where it's incumbent Cindy Axning, a Democrat, taking on State Senator Zach Nunn, who has a lot of backing.

Iowa, since the 1950s, has always had a split in their federal delegations.

This could be the year Republicans own all four congressional seats and the two Senate seats.

Okay, I want to ask a question first, John.

What define the numbers of what you consider a landslide?

Well, 30, 40, 50, 60, 20.

You know, the bellwether has always been 55, 45, because that's called an Eisenhower landslide, post-World War II America, when Ike won that.

If you win by 10 points, double digits, or in an allocation, 55 to 45, if you shift the bar.

So like, for instance, the U.S.

House, a 30-seat flip.

in the U.S.

House is basically coming close to that 10%.

Okay, so that's the reason I ask is, and I've been following a lot of different things on the national level.

Right.

What's the difference?

It's like five seats now is a difference between Republicans and Democrats

in the House.

In the House, it's two, 20 to 212, which means five votes would flip and it would go to, and there are a couple that are empty still due to death, and that's why you got the weird number, but basically a five vote

Swing a five-seat swing gives the majority to Kevin McCartney.

So

when you look back at the 94 Yeah, Rob house.

Yes, English

came

in.

Yes,

you know the change of change that happened at that curve,

right?

That was like a 50.

Yeah,

you know 50 person.

Yeah, he's 60.

Yeah, that

was truly a land site

that that was of historic but the gap

gap between the seats of how many Republicans had and how many Democrats had was a much bigger gap

Oh, yeah, Reagan governed with basically a deficit of 50

House was that that shows the greatness of Reagan.

He passed his entire tax package through Tip O'Neill's house by going directly to the American people.

This was before digital technology, but Reagan got on national TV networks and literally did what we thought was impossible.

He did have a bit of a tailwind when he came back after near death and came to that joint session of Congress and started pounding the podium.

You know, boy, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

It made Reagan stronger in terms of getting that legislation.

And I think, too, you talked a little bit about Reagan.

The Democrat Party was different back then.

They were a lot of blue dogs.

Even Leonard Boswell of Iowa was considered a conservative blue dog.

Jackson, you had foreign policy conservatives and kept the big fights at the borders.

That's true.

Yeah.

And now

you've got much of a more delineation.

And so, Chip, I think that's one of the things that we're going to have to look at is the polarization where

The Democrats have gone so far to the left that I saw some polling the other day.

I can't remember if it was Quinnipiac or whoever it was that showed that suburban white women.

We're overwhelmingly going to Republicans this year by 28%.

If they get that... It's good night, nurse.

It's over.

It's over.

Well, there's that, and there's also Hispanic vote is swinging Republican now because they're tired of what they're seeing coming out of the Democratic

Party.

Huge shift.

Double digit shifts.

The black vote

is shifting.

It's not as high a percentage, but you've moved that number 5%, and you're signing the death mail for the Democrats.

Well, here's the dirty truth.

I've been looking at some of the early voting patterns.

Democrats are not turning out in early absentees and Republicans are way overperforming.

Guys, based on that, I think it's going to be a wipeout.

We talked a little bit about everything on the ground.

We're not seeing the Democrat ground game like we have in the past.

Yeah, we're seeing a lot of TV ads too, but we're not seeing the door knockers and we're not seeing the yard signs like we have in the past either.

Okay, so here's what I'm

coming to.

You're

from Omaha.

Can you tell Tony Vargas to quit bothering me over in Iowa?

Enough already with those ads.

Oh, geez.

I'm watching, I think Pluto TV last night, watching some John Wayne movie or whatever, and there's just like one ad after another and it's like, how on earth do these people get on Pluto TV?

So what I'm coming to is because the gap is so narrow now compared to when Reagan or excuse me in the 90s Yes, Clinton was in office,

right?

I don't think we're gonna see a 50 60 seat.

No, no, you

can't there's there's so much gerrymandering going on anymore

and

really districts that will

not change brilliant

I think you're only gonna see maybe a 20 30 seat

Yeah, yeah, I just still dramatic 30 30 is basically the way you say you can't get the 50 no no they've carved up so many safe seats

There were less than 50 competitive house seats.

So 30 would be running the table and it would

give the

GOP a comfortable 25 vote margin where the federal equivalent of a Jeff Shipley couldn't.

Mess up your caucus too badly.

Well, I would put a passive to try to anyways, but you know, it's gonna be interesting too is that if Miller Meeks Congresswoman Miller Meeks if she holds that seat down there in the southeast part of the district What is that district number one now?

I think it's due to the redistricting numbers and stuff We all agree that Ashley Henson is gonna win reelection, you know, and if Zach Nunn pulls the the the inside straight

This over and here we are going into the Iowa caucuses.

The Democrats are going to basically forego the Iowa caucuses for the presidential year.

You know, they

have an incumbent, but ship.

We also had some news in Sioux City on Thursday night.

Former President Donald Trump was in Sioux City, rallying the troops.

He had he had Feenstra.

He had Chuck Grassley.

He had Kim Reynolds, Brenna Bird, who could actually beat Tom Miller this time around for Attorney General.

It was interesting Donald Trump made a kind of a coy little comment is coys Donald Trump can ever be where he says get ready get ready.

There's announcement coming

Yeah, I'm so grateful he hasn't done anything before now.

Let's get past this election, Don.

But if you're going to pick a state to do it in, you pick a state.

That's what was

great.

The Iowa was the

news splash.

And then you go into Iowa and then you do it in Northwest Iowa where it is, the red is to the red.

I mean, if you're a Democrat, you might as well give it up in Western Iowa because you're not going to win over there.

And for him to come out and make that comment, that told me there's something the Iowa caucuses start basically on November 10.

Yes, they do.

I wonder if it will be a staircase that will be coming down.

Well, I'll tell you.

Don't give Chuck Grassley any ideas.

If it's a landslide, Chuck may be thinking of running in 2028.

Oh, man.

Oh, Lord.

Goodness, goodness.

That's going to be interesting.

But, you know, it's going to be quite a night though, John, too.

And we're going to get a lot of results here on KXEL on election night.

But don't forget, we'll be

joining Jeff Stein a little bit, guys, on election night.

So we're going to be bringing that Western Iowa update and some of the Omaha update.

Chip Redman is following that Don Bacon.

Tony Vargas.

Oh, yeah.

That's a bellwether race.

Democrats have put tons of money into flip that.

That's a congressional district because the way Nebraska does its electoral votes.

that gave Obama and Biden electoral votes.

Can Don Bacon hold that seat?

That's going to be a bellwether race for the night.

If Bacon retains that seat, I think it's curtains.

Yeah, it's tough.

There's a lot of money out there going into that.

That's

President Trump.

Tell him I'll call back,

Shane.

Yeah, sorry

about that, folks.

Yeah, it's always been tight.

No matter who the Democrats have thrown up against Bacon, he's had to struggle.

He has tried to stay somewhat moderate.

to try and get as many of the independent votes as he can.

The advertising is just horrid.

The stuff that Vargas, actually it's a general democratic thing that they're putting out about that the Republicans are trying to get rid of Social Security and all these different things, just flat out lies.

I'm sure they can point to some vote that was made in Congress, but they probably had it attached to some bill for some wacko thing that no one's gonna vote

for.

Vargas is making a fatal mistake, unlike Eastern Iowa.

where voters are more pro-choice on the abortion issue than Omahaans are.

Omahaans, although they voted Democrat, is still pro-life area.

A lot of blue dog social Democrats, so to speak.

Vargas is promoting his abortion rights support so much in his TV ads.

I think they're backfiring.

with some traditional Omahaans or South Omaha ethnic Omahaans that vote pro-life.

I think it's a fatal mistake by Vargas.

You know, I think you're right there, John.

I think it's going to be one of those things.

And I think Don Bacon is going to end up with about 54% of the vote on election night.

And it's going to be interesting, too, to see in Iowa what that margin is.

If Don Driscoll's numbers are very good and she wins that seat in the southeast part of the district, 7th District 39.

And then Miller Meeks comes out and she

wins by more than four votes like she did last time around.

You're going to be looking at just a all out wipeout across the state of Iowa.

Well you guys want to listen to KXEL and Dr. Jeff Stein, national, national telecaster and broadcaster.

As we know Jeff has done the Jim Bohannon show and Todd Starnes.

He's going to be covering nationally and locally on election night.

No place better.

to get a true journalist's take than to listen to Jeff Stein here on election night, 1540 AM, 100.5 FM, and we'll be joining from the western part of the state.

We'll be on assignment for KXEL.

Guys, that's a great segment.

We've got a couple of great interviews coming up.

John Jacobson and Scott Corey back with you and the great one Mike Shane that's his ringtone from commandeering the other blowtorch down the street from us in the Omaha Waterloo Cedar Rapids

Lincoln Dubuque Quad Cities Iowa City Metro areas and we're glad to have back on the show today doctors Ted Fogarty and Brad Meyer Doctor my eyes have seen these successes you have had making Iowans proud of your cutting-edge innovative

treatment modalities and even the federal government and CARES Act dollars have put their bets on.

Welcome back to show how are things in Okabodji?

We've got some nice well-needed precipitation this weekend.

How are you guys doing today?

Well John, I'm calling you from Okuboji from Brad Meyer's home and Dr. Meyer is actually in the state capital of the great state of Texas.

Well this is perfect.

This is perfect because we know you guys have been out giving talks, giving lectures, being fed at these academic high brow events.

That's because you guys are on to something.

What have you been doing the last week or so since we had that great interview just seven days ago?

What's happened subsequent?

You guys have got some great things to report.

I'll start out with Fogarty and then we'll kick it over to Meyer.

Yeah,

you

know, as a radiologist that has about 20 state licenses, I've got the kind of the pulse of the stocks on the ground and the ERs and the ICUs.

And there's a family that came to us from Dallas, Texas.

got ahold of me knowing what my mission has been in interstate commerce and medicine for these last three years in the pandemic.

And they approached me and asked me if I could write a prescription for Ibermectin for this wonderful woman ailing husband who was part of the B-52 bomber program out of Grand Fork, North Dakota when they first met.

And so I told her, uh, at the outset, there's not a lot I can do from afar.

And also to check in with Dr. Peter McCullough, who is actually a physician from Dallas.

And

we've had, we've had him on the show earlier too.

We, we've brought in so many of these good, uh, fellow travelers.

Yeah.

And Dr. McCullough was unable to do anything for them as well, um, at the outset.

And so I concocted a version of the purple powder for them to, to feed, uh, John as the man's name, who's part of our.

at the Air Force in the past.

And he started to perk up Sunday afternoon with that.

And then by that intervention, I think I kind of got the ICU doctor in charge of his care to

kind of

relook at this whole issue.

Good

job.

And he told the family, if you guys can get Dr. Fogarty to get a prescription into an outpatient pharmacy here in town, I'll allow it and put him on it.

And so Doc Meyer and I were down in Spencer and Doc Meyer is the one who actually calculated the dose and we got it into a compounding pharmacy and went into the patient and he started to continue to turn the corner and is getting basically out of the ICU.

a nursing home facility for a while here but so it's it was it was a great little success across the line

fantastic

and uh... and of course they're they're they're also asking about hyperbaric and i do know the top doc uh... in dallas in hyperbaric medicine is al johnson d.o.

who trained up in Des Moines uh... and one of the elder statesman of the uh... national hyperbaric crowd that doctor hark and i have been uh... networking together and so uh... this individual eventually probably to get a little

post COVID cleanup of his lungs with Dr. Johnson there in Dallas.

But we're going to turn it over to Brad now to talk about where he is and what he's doing with our great mentor, Dr. Hart.

Thanks, Dr. Ted Fogarty.

Dr. Brad Meyer, we had Fogarty and Hart such on last week.

You were busy teaching and in clinic.

So get us caught up on your last week, our good friend.

Well, we've been, my wife and I have been in route down to Great State of Texas.

And it's been an incredible journey so far.

Yesterday morning, we had lunch or breakfast with the great Sidney Powell attorney

and

talking about the landscape of America as it continues to unfold and be unpredictable.

But, you know, somebody that the Texas State bar coming after her license, we have a lot in common with the Iowa Medical Board coming after my license.

Lots of great information to catch up on and he's been a great friend to us along the way in the journey.

And she said, you know, don't let's not get discouraged.

Let's get pissed.

And

because, you know, it's time to go on offense

and

we have proof on our side.

And

that brings me to further south.

We made it to Austin yesterday and with a great godfather of hyperbaric Dr. Paul Hart.

to uh... doctor poverty introduced me to over the course of the last year and uh... today we're we're starting a two-day conference for children that have had uh... traumatic brain injury stained in all the different people both modalities that are beneficial to bring quality of life back to the kids that are limited both mobilized uh... motor skills wise and uh... we are absolute we are absolutely uh...

excited to be here and cutting-edge stuff.

Still, most people enough, people don't know that hyperbaric therapy is so incredible to bring back quality of life for so many conditions, including traumatic brain injury.

So I was actually having breakfast with the great Paul Harch, Dr. Harch's wife, Juliette, this morning, and she was sharing with us a story that they had out of Louisiana wrote for Cole, 19-year-old that he was injured in a rodeo accident.

and he went from completely hunched over immobile and into a state where he's standing now, mobile, expressive, and this is after hyperbaric therapy, which brings us back to the case that we've seen in Okuboji.

As of yesterday, Dr. Pogarty kind of fell in a little bit more about how we're bobbing and weaving and connecting all these things across state lines, bringing these healing modalities.

hyperbaric to people that need to hear the good news.

And we just had another exciting story out of our clinic at Aeronautics yesterday.

It's

an

amazing experience to be with the leaders in the science of hyperbaric medicine and sharing that good news with world.

And

I'll be back next week to continue that mission back in Northwest Iowa.

Guys, this is so great.

And I'll just say that there are many second, third acts in American life.

I've self-term limited myself, but some people have forgotten I have a law license active in two states.

And I'm going to roll up my sleeves on this issue, guys, because there is some

that's going on that shouldn't be and when executive and legislative branches fail to correctly address problems that's why we have the judicial branch so uh digging and delving speaking of digging and delving let's pause right here guys i've been up to your great clinic i'm coming back up to get some additional work done here in the next week or two you know with bankers hours i might have to find a way to do it on uh veterans day scottie because we actually get a day off at the bank on veterans day but guys

Guys, how do we get a hold of you?

It's a beautiful drive up for me.

We've got listeners all over the state here.

How do they find you guys?

Either by driving, by flying, or by texting, or by telephoning, or by website.

What's your preferred method of contact?

Because we've got some interested people.

Yeah, our phone number is 712-339-6024.

And we're on the web at aeronauticsperformance.com.

That's with an X instead of a CS.

And we are at 3303 Berkowitz Avenue in Spirit Lake, Iowa.

And if you want to mail us a postcard from anywhere you are, it's a zip code of 51360.

We've got Dr. David Hartstich on the line.

Doc, we've just been having a great talk about what these guys have been doing in the last week or so at their seminars and conferences.

You and I have been talking a lot lately.

Doc, what you got going on at your end other than it's phenomenal some of the success stories that you've had.

You're on the other end of the state.

You're in Scott County down there in the Quad Cities area.

Can you talk about a few of your success stories that you've had because we want people

at the end here to text to your number as well.

Go, Doc.

So yes, I've been treating one lady who's had MS multiple sclerosis for 20 years, and she's really improved her walking.

She really looks forward to the sessions.

Her urination pattern has really improved.

She used to be up about four times a night.

Now she doesn't get up in the middle of the night anymore.

And what I've done is I've edited

I'm amazed that neurodegenerative disorders that hyperbarics can can help with and one of the things I've started doing is I started using the little Simon game Simon is this thing where it gives you a sequence of lights and you press the buttons in the order that gives you Yes,

I remember that well.

Yes

And what I found is that when you treat people with the hyperbarics their performance at that game improves and I think that that probably

corresponds to with how well they're doing with their with their their thinking.

Wow.

That's kind of cool.

Doc, did you have an athlete or swimmer mom that was just felled by COVID who could hardly get out of bed that now is back exercising with some of the treatment that you use to help her?

Yes, absolutely.

And she had she had a problem with with just breathing.

She didn't get through a shopping without

Yes, just with three treatments, she perked right up and she was she swung a mile a day.

This is fantastic.

Doc, I don't want to get deep into the weeds, but we still have an ongoing issue with the various medical boards throughout the United States with kind of maybe a federal group that's been pressing the fingers on the scales a little bit with respect to these state boards.

Is that a fair statement?

Yeah.

I think what it is is they've weaponized the state boards to go against anybody who would counter what the state's standard position is on the vaccine.

The state wants to make it sound like the vaccine is safe, effective, and there's no alternative treatments.

And so anybody who would speak against that is now up in front of the boards in order to have disciplinary action.

and they claim that they're trying to build based on consensus-based medicine, but you can't have a consensus unless people are free to form a consensus.

Otherwise, you just have an imposed value of the state or an imposed narrative, and that's not consensus.

When you say consensus it kind of this is a terrible analogy But I'm thinking back to you know in several hundred years ago where they use leeches that was again form census And so it's kind of one of those things where it's an evolving process and we're never gonna have a hundred percent Everybody on board.

We're lucky to get 50 to 51 percent on board.

Is that correct doctor?

Yeah, I think that's correct I tell you sometimes I get they come the person comes to me with a certain medical problem that no one seems to be able to deal with

And I'm almost scared to treat such a person because I know there's no standard therapy for them.

And so as a doctor, what should you do?

If you follow standard therapy, you have no hope for them.

However, I think physicians have an obligation to try to the best of their abilities, treatment that will hopefully improve their life.

That's not experimentation.

That is applying the best scientific knowledge.

to the problem at hand.

I'll close with this.

I have seen people give testimonies to what Dr. Fogarty and Meyer are doing.

Doc, you're going to an event that was unsolicited.

You're going to Cedar Rapids.

Why have you been called to Cedar Rapids?

One of my patients hurt her husband.

I cured COVID and she wanted to throw a dinner party for me to honor me and invite all of my patients in the Cedar Rapids area.

And it's a fairly large number.

And I was, I don't know, I'm very humbled by the whole thing.

That is loyalty, guys.

That's the character and the competence of these three gentlemen here, Drs.

Ted Fogarty, Dr. Brad Meyer, and the honorable former state senator, Scotty, who's a great Republican state senator down in Scott County, David Hartstich, MD.

Doc, how do they get ahold of you on the Mississippi side of that river, Doc Hartstich?

Yes, they can touch me.

to 563-923-7424.

Just send a text message.

Repeat that again, because our listeners, you know, some of them will buy their tablet and their legal pad and pen.

563-923-7424.

And

what should they text to that number?

What word?

You can text COVID or you can text injured or you can text just send me a

text.

All right.

I want you guys to get a hold of the guys up at Aeronautics, up at Okabodji, and I want you to get a hold of Hartsich in the Quad Cities.

Let's keep this going.

Mike Shane, it's been awesome to have these guys again for a wonderful show.

Scotty, you too.

Guys, we'll have you back on next week.

Thanks.

This is the Troika of Excellence with these three.

All right, John.

Thanks,

John.

Looking forward to it.

Thanks, Doc.

Thanks, Doc.

I feel like Chevy Chase.

Doctor, doctor, doctor.

All right, let's do that, guys.

Speaking of, we're the Home No Way Voice Iowa Hawkeyes.

John Jacobson here on the Jacobson Group with you.

We're bringing back the matriarch.

of commercial business in eastern Iowa.

Barbara Hames Bryant and she presides over this magnificent multi-generational family offering Hames homes, excellence in manufactured homes.

Barbara, welcome back to the program this weekend.

Thank you for that fabulous introduction, John.

You're a rock star.

So are you Barbara Hames Bryant?

You're presiding over many civic duties including heading up some statewide organizations Barbara everybody's looking at these interest rates mortgage rates are the highest in 20 years, but for every problematic there's a great opportunity and at this juncture

the affordability factor of manufacturing homes, skyrockets, and there's still ways to pull it off with financing that works.

Take it away, Barbara.

Absolutely, John.

There are a lot more players in the manufactured housing lending arena than there used to be.

Ten years ago, you were lucky if you could find one or two people

to make home-only loans on manufactured homes, and now there's a half a dozen.

Locally, Green State Credit Union will make loans.

Nationally, Triad Financial is making some good loans, and so is Credit Human out of Texas.

Here in Cedar Rapids, we have our own in-house financing company called Circle Finance.

Now rates are going up on site-built homes, but so far, rates have stayed pretty steady.

for manufactured homes and people if they're considering purchasing a manufactured home and getting it financed should jump on that bandwagon right away.

Well said Barbara Hamas Bryant and another reason why this is such an opportunity for folks is you know Barbara folks with

that half million, three quarter million dollar home, if an interest rate goes up by a percent or two, that makes four hundreds of dollars of additional payments per month just to cover the interest part of the mortgage amortization.

However, you've got homes really priced in a nice affordable niche.

Can you talk about these spacious and beautiful homes and yet some of the entry prices are magnificent?

Our homes are up to 24,000, excuse me, 2,400 square feet.

Two, three, and four-bedroom homes, they're as big as site-built homes, but because they're built in doors, they only cost half as much to build.

There's very little waste in building a manufactured home compared to a site-built home.

So our homes are much more affordable, and you get a lot more house for your money.

Loans can be either fixed rate or they can be adjustable rate mortgages.

Either way, do your homework, find the best one, and buy a manufactured home.

You'll be glad you did.

You know, Barbara, another thing that I love is when you do business with anybody, it's relationship-based, not transaction-based.

And you folks have been there now multi-generationally.

You go back half a century and the next generations are firmly in place to extend this great legacy, right?

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You don't stay in business for over 50 years by cheating your customers.

We've provided good value, good relationships, good service and beautiful neighborhoods

for over 50 years.

And yes, we do have our third generation of the Haynes family who are working with us and we don't see that change in anytime soon.

Barbara, how do they find you?

Physically address, but also if they want to browse online or give a phone call in to your good folks there.

What's the best way for people to reach you?

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You can visit us seven days a week at our sales office at the corner of Wilson Avenue and West Coast Roads, Southwest in Cedar Rapids.

John Jacobson here with Scott Corey and the great Mike Shane on the KXEL network, curming all throughout.

Eastern Iowa and all the states the big 10 on 1540 and 100.5 We're gonna be doing some cameos with Jeff Stein on election night.

Make sure you tune in Tuesday Scotty The upcoming Friday is Veterans Day.

We can never Forget the service of our great veterans.

You and I have been involved with some of these honor flights your wife In in Southwest Iowa

We need to focus.

The only reason that we have been free and made the world free is because the sacrifice of the United States veterans.

The only nation that won wars on all continents and never took a foot of anybody's soil other than

for a cemetery to bury their own

fallen you know that's just a great point john and basically what we are who we are and what we're going to be is thanks enough to the united states military and their veterans is also their families too have sacrificed through so much to give us this way of life and

You know, in a lot of ways, just one day is not enough to thank them all.

You know, make sure you get out there and do thank a veteran, you know, participate in the parades that are coming up throughout the state.

As also, you know, thank them by your vote too.

I know Secretary of State Paul Pate does the thank a veteran with the program through the voting process.

But these folks out here, it's just awe-inspiring.

I remember being at Kenning Stadium a couple years ago, and they had a veteran, I believe he was a World War II veteran, a Korean War veteran, and a Vietnam veteran.

And when they brought them out, even now I get a little emotional thinking about it.

I don't think there was too many dry eyes at Kenick Stadium that Saturday afternoon.

It was the Maryland game.

And just seeing those men, they were older, had a little trouble walking.

But when they took that 50-yard line...

I just the roar of Kenick Stadium.

I could never forget that.

It's the people across Iowa and across this country that have made this happen.

It's our folks in our local town coffee shops.

It's our farmers.

It's our businessmen.

A lot of these folks that have gone to war, John, and you know it, too.

We have some great friends like Gary Gutha who've done tremendous things, but they never talk about it.

And it's just